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  koboldfodder

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10/10/12 6:06:10 PM#41

That does not make sense.  You are telling me that he needs to raise 2 million dollars from the common rabble and then the people with money donate theirs?  That is not how business works.  You have something, you need capital, you go to someone with capital and you put up colateral.

That is how it has been done in this country for, well, forever.  That is why banks exist, not to store money but to lend money with interest rates.  What's the old saying, you have to have money in order to make money.

There are companies out there willing to take on projects like this, but they are going to put in their own money and take some control over the project.  That is how it's done.

It makes no sense that he needs to raise 2 million dollars from your piggy bank in order for other people to put in their big money.  This game is likely to cost upwards of 100 million dollars,  If there is actual interest, those people with the money should already know this and they would bypass the silly 2 million dollar pledge thing.

Nothing but bad things can happen when you ask the common people to donate from their piggy bank.

 

  BullseyeArc1

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10/10/12 6:18:49 PM#42
Originally posted by koboldfodder

That does not make sense.  You are telling me that he needs to raise 2 million dollars from the common rabble and then the people with money donate theirs?  That is not how business works.  You have something, you need capital, you go to someone with capital and you put up colateral.

That is how it has been done in this country for, well, forever.  That is why banks exist, not to store money but to lend money with interest rates.  What's the old saying, you have to have money in order to make money.

There are companies out there willing to take on projects like this, but they are going to put in their own money and take some control over the project.  That is how it's done.

It makes no sense that he needs to raise 2 million dollars from your piggy bank in order for other people to put in their big money.  This game is likely to cost upwards of 100 million dollars,  If there is actual interest, those people with the money should already know this and they would bypass the silly 2 million dollar pledge thing.

Nothing but bad things can happen when you ask the common people to donate from their piggy bank.

 

Ya sounds like he wants people to stake him for the loan.    Might be the only way something like this gets made though.   

  Jakdstripper

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10/10/12 6:57:26 PM#43
very impressive. however, i'll keep my money until they have a game to sell me. i hate giving money for promesis...
  Yakamomoto

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10/10/12 7:01:30 PM#44

And by the way, EA, LUCASARTS AND BIOWARE: Thanks for NOTHING!!

No Battlefront 3, No new X-Wing, No Space combat in TOR -> ALL MY MONEY IS GOING TO CHRIS ROBERTS DONATIONS !  :D

  Yakamomoto

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10/10/12 7:02:41 PM#45
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
very impressive. however, i'll keep my money until they have a game to sell me. i hate giving money for promesis...
 

there is a money back option if they don´t reach the 2M Dollar goal.

Seriously, go fund the project it´s worth it, that is how things work today

  DeaconX

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10/10/12 8:08:07 PM#46
Really ambitious and I hope it works out :) gonna fund it for sure.


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  Maggon

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10/10/12 8:24:40 PM#47
I reeally want to donate to this - only problem is, when you go to the pledge site thing thing, and then type in your adress, it says "send to the adress above" I have no idea if I will be living where I live right now in 2 years :/
  aligada87

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10/10/12 8:41:40 PM#48
this game looks really awsome. but my question is, does the players who spend more dollars on the pledge for citizenship get more access to the game? basically to put it in simplar words, is this a pay to win game? i'm not understanding the pledge for citizenship. and am i imagining things? i saw one for 10,000 usd? also another question how will this affect people who wants to play this game but doesn't have a high end pc. what happends if they only have a good enough pc gaming system? really want to know because i'm interested also would like to know if this is an actuall mmo
 
  Arakazi

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Joined: 5/23/09
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10/10/12 8:57:12 PM#49
hmph... I liked Elite better (hums intro tune). But freelancer and wing commander were cool too. I will be giving a donation because I love space sims. Two million dollars doesn't sound enough though.

  denshing

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10/10/12 9:24:24 PM#50
Looks good! I can't wait for 2 years to fly by so I can play this. I hope they have space homes.
  denshing

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10/10/12 9:26:13 PM#51
Originally posted by Teala
Damnit - just make a Freelancer Online game.   Duh!   I think most people like the old Wing Commander games, but I think many probably liked Freelancer more.   So why not do it right and just make a Freelancer game?

I don't see why it has to have the same name. If it's going to be better than freelancer then it may as well have a different name.

  hikaru77

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10/10/12 9:36:07 PM#52
He said NO to EA, everyone should support this game NOW. I can wait 2 years for an epic game like this. 
  OG_Zorvan

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10/10/12 10:11:31 PM#53
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
very impressive. however, i'll keep my money until they have a game to sell me. i hate giving money for promesis...
 

there is a money back option if they don´t reach the 2M Dollar goal.

Seriously, go fund the project it´s worth it, that is how things work today

And when it reaches 2 million but they never bring a game out, you get nothing back.

And no, throwing away money on empty promises is not how the world works today, or any other day.

 

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  denshing

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10/10/12 11:12:26 PM#54
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
very impressive. however, i'll keep my money until they have a game to sell me. i hate giving money for promesis...
 

there is a money back option if they don´t reach the 2M Dollar goal.

Seriously, go fund the project it´s worth it, that is how things work today

And when it reaches 2 million but they never bring a game out, you get nothing back.

And no, throwing away money on empty promises is not how the world works today, or any other day.

 

The man turned down EA. So I'm sure he has his funding plans in check. He has a good track record of successful games to go with it...

Then again Tabula Rasa...

  Mythosaeon

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10/11/12 1:03:54 AM#55
Originally posted by denshing

The man turned down EA. So I'm sure he has his funding plans in check. He has a good track record of successful games to go with it...

Then again Tabula Rasa...

Yeah - and Battlecruiser 3000, Dark and Light, the orignal vision for Horizons, Stargate Worlds....semi-deep pockets and big dreams oft go astray.  The state of Rhode Island is regretting their early supporter stance - 

Then again it could be amazing...

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  lavosslayer

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10/11/12 1:09:42 AM#56
Originally posted by denshing
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
very impressive. however, i'll keep my money until they have a game to sell me. i hate giving money for promesis...
 

there is a money back option if they don´t reach the 2M Dollar goal.

Seriously, go fund the project it´s worth it, that is how things work today

And when it reaches 2 million but they never bring a game out, you get nothing back.

And no, throwing away money on empty promises is not how the world works today, or any other day.

 

The man turned down EA. So I'm sure he has his funding plans in check. He has a good track record of successful games to go with it...

Then again Tabula Rasa...

Tabula Rasa was Richard Garriott...

  Averof

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10/11/12 1:32:06 AM#57

Just 3 names....the man who brought us Mark Hammil(Commander Blair), Malcom Mc Dowell(Admiral Tolwyn), and later on Clive Owen as Privateer, yet  space operas, immersive, pc juicing games, yes, he can have lots of paper money, because he is a gamer, he has the guts to say No to suits, that's why the gaming world will say YES to Mr. Chris Roberts....

When you have a Grandmaster you don't ask....you follow...it's like Yoda coming to earth, and suits asking him for an interview about his talents in intergalactic war conflicts.

So money grabbing, stupid suit, nose sniffing, opinion wise for just about everything,....move along....this is not another 10 year long pathetic game to release, you are looking for. 

Take your consoles, tablets, touch screen ridiculous screen softwares, and chock on them...This is Personal Desktop Computing, and the Legend is back to Defend It and push it beyond it's limits! 

3D Space Cockpits, Online Space Battles, free roaming, Privateer like by the Grandmaster of the Genre....ok....there is hope after all, at last, and substantial hope, indeed!

 

Fully supporting STAR CITIZEN by the Legendary Grandmaster of the Space Game Genre, Chris Roberts.For Captain Eisen's memory.....For Squadron 42...For the Space Genre....For the PC....I pledge!
Star Citizen

  gordiflu

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Joined: 1/22/07
Posts: 750

10/11/12 1:49:45 AM#58

Not fair.

I already told this community some time ago. I want my royalties! :P

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5326108#5326108

 

  Sigurd57

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Joined: 10/30/03
Posts: 325

10/11/12 1:56:22 AM#59
Originally posted by Averof

Just 3 names....the man who brought us Mark Hammil(Commander Blair), Malcom Mc Dowell(Admiral Tolwyn), and later on Clive Owen as Privateer, yet  space operas, immersive, pc juicing games, yes, he can have lots of paper money, because he is a gamer, he has the guts to say No to suits, that's why the gaming world will say YES to Mr. Chris Roberts....

3D Space Cockpits, Online Space Battles, free roaming, Privateer like by the Grandmaster of the Genre....ok....there is hope after all, at last, and substantial hope, indeed!

 

I loved Wing Commander iV!

When I saw the video earlier:  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFSipPkusuw

The first thing I thought was... Holy Sh*t Modern Wing Commander!   That was before I even knew what it was!  This game needs to happen, it needs to be made.   

Hey TSW Players http://www.unfair.co/tsw-guides/ for Mission guides, Lore Locations and stuff....

  gordiflu

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Posts: 750

10/11/12 2:00:51 AM#60
Originally posted by denshing
Originally posted by Teala
Damnit - just make a Freelancer Online game.   Duh!   I think most people like the old Wing Commander games, but I think many probably liked Freelancer more.   So why not do it right and just make a Freelancer game?

I don't see why it has to have the same name. If it's going to be better than freelancer then it may as well have a different name.

Freelancer online wouldn't work. It's gotta be a new game. Some of the old freelancer most popular online mods are not working any longer. The last one to die, Shattered Worlds, just yesterday. The only healthy on at the moment seems to be Discovery.

 

 

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