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  Kuppa

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Joined: 9/24/10
Posts: 3447

The problem with censorship is ********

10/15/12 6:02:29 PM#101
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Kuppa
 

Agreed, they could add more. They probably will as well, at least I hope they do stat wise. But if you look at pvp games that are essentially spvp(which are mainly outside the mmo genre) they don't really reward you much of anything progression wise and you don't get a "world" perse. Look at LoL, its just lobbies but they don't think they are getting stuck in a "little spot".

 

The problem is that many folks that play MMOs need progression, they also need a reason to pvp besides the actual action of pvping. I believe many of them view it as: "Why the heck am I here getting my butt kicked by some epeen crazy person when Im not getting any loot out of it and/or it has no meaning?!"

You see I'm the guy who after roflstomping noobs for so long, I ask "why."  I pvp because I believe this is what games are about. Pong says hi along with her buddy Combat.

 

Three things keep me pvp in one game after I reach the "/sigh pwning another noob." point are one, being able to build and rebuild different combonations of play style and how all those abilities interact. Two, something to strive for. Three variety of play i.g. battlegrounds, arenas, Wpvp, and duels. What ever the set up there needs to be atleast 3 viable ways to pvp at minimum. 

 

side note - I think hutball is the second greatest (Altrec Valley #1) battleground ever made, but after 3k matches and another 500 on top with nothing to gain it even got boring. I raged quit when rated battle grounds didn't come in 1.2.

I also like pvp because its mainly about the competition and the fact that playing humans is never the same. I have never been at a point were I would say Im tired of beating up people because there is always better players than me out there, otherwise I would be doing this as a career. Of course for this to be more enjoyable a good matchmaking system is needed which is something that GW2 is still lacking in spvp.

 

I do enjoy different styles of pvping which is what maps boil down to but I don't find it to be imperative. If game A has awesome mechanics and solid balance but one map I would choose it over game B that has 5 different styles of pvp but shallow and unbalanced pvp.


  SirFubar

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Joined: 7/21/11
Posts: 411

10/15/12 6:06:03 PM#102
Originally posted by stygianapoth

I honestly have no reason to play PvP other than the fact I want to kill 5 minutes of my time. There is just no progression and no point to playing. It's one of those "fun for an hour or two ... the FIRST day.." then it just becomes routinely boring and pointless. I mean I do not want to bash GW2 but this is just a general concern as a gamer. There is just NO point whatsoever to play other than to get new armor that I personally do not give a crap about.

 

Does anyone else feel the same? It's fun for a while, but then there is no point also. I want a game that gives me progress towards the time/skill/work I put into it.

What's the point of progression then?? NONE!! What's the point of playing a video game?? NONE!! Nice try tho. If you can't play to have fun or to simply be better than others, then you should just stop playing video games because that kind of mentality is just plain stupid and nonsense.

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 1028

10/15/12 6:13:21 PM#103
Originally posted by SirFubar
Originally posted by stygianapoth

I honestly have no reason to play PvP other than the fact I want to kill 5 minutes of my time. There is just no progression and no point to playing. It's one of those "fun for an hour or two ... the FIRST day.." then it just becomes routinely boring and pointless. I mean I do not want to bash GW2 but this is just a general concern as a gamer. There is just NO point whatsoever to play other than to get new armor that I personally do not give a crap about.

 

Does anyone else feel the same? It's fun for a while, but then there is no point also. I want a game that gives me progress towards the time/skill/work I put into it.

What's the point of progression then?? NONE!! What's the point of playing a video game?? NONE!! Nice try tho. If you can't play to have fun or to simply be better than others, then you should just stop playing video games because that kind of mentality is just plain stupid and nonsense.

Anet already said on one of lhe latest interview here on mmorpg.com that the PvP atm is casual, is not hardcore and competitive but they are working on that.  

  GeezerGamer

Elite Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 5529

10/15/12 8:50:18 PM#104
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Kuppa
 

Agreed, they could add more. They probably will as well, at least I hope they do stat wise. But if you look at pvp games that are essentially spvp(which are mainly outside the mmo genre) they don't really reward you much of anything progression wise and you don't get a "world" perse. Look at LoL, its just lobbies but they don't think they are getting stuck in a "little spot".

 

The problem is that many folks that play MMOs need progression, they also need a reason to pvp besides the actual action of pvping. I believe many of them view it as: "Why the heck am I here getting my butt kicked by some epeen crazy person when Im not getting any loot out of it and/or it has no meaning?!"

You see I'm the guy who after roflstomping noobs for so long, I ask "why."  I pvp because I believe this is what games are about. Pong says hi along with her buddy Combat.

 

Three things keep me pvp in one game after I reach the "/sigh pwning another noob." point are one, being able to build and rebuild different combonations of play style and how all those abilities interact. Two, something to strive for. Three variety of play i.g. battlegrounds, arenas, Wpvp, and duels. What ever the set up there needs to be atleast 3 viable ways to pvp at minimum. 

 

side note - I think hutball is the second greatest (Altrec Valley #1) battleground ever made, but after 3k matches and another 500 on top with nothing to gain, it even got boring. I raged quit when rated battle grounds didn't come in 1.2.

[mod edit]

You dug through 11 pages of his post history?

Why?

 

Now playing FFXIV:ARR and GW2

  loulaki

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/20/11
Posts: 873

10/16/12 7:40:15 AM#105
Originally posted by stygianapoth

I honestly have no reason to play PvP other than the fact I want to kill 5 minutes of my time. There is just no progression and no point to playing. It's one of those "fun for an hour or two ... the FIRST day.." then it just becomes routinely boring and pointless. I mean I do not want to bash GW2 but this is just a general concern as a gamer. There is just NO point whatsoever to play other than to get new armor that I personally do not give a crap about.

 

Does anyone else feel the same? It's fun for a while, but then there is no point also. I want a game that gives me progress towards the time/skill/work I put into it.

show me the progression in MOBAs, in Starcraft II and other popular online strategy games, in counter strike and i will admit out of the battles the GW2 sPvP lacks .

 

btw you posted and already ArenaNet have announced that ranks and paid tournaments are coming.. also there are already similar threads, so i dont get the purpose on this OP except a great chance for trolling ...

  Scripture1

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/13/08
Posts: 424

"I will have obedience and not sacrifice"

10/16/12 2:11:33 PM#106
Originally posted by stygianapoth

I honestly have no reason to play PvP other than the fact I want to kill 5 minutes of my time. There is just no progression and no point to playing. It's one of those "fun for an hour or two ... the FIRST day.." then it just becomes routinely boring and pointless. I mean I do not want to bash GW2 but this is just a general concern as a gamer. There is just NO point whatsoever to play other than to get new armor that I personally do not give a crap about.

 

Does anyone else feel the same? It's fun for a while, but then there is no point also. I want a game that gives me progress towards the time/skill/work I put into it.

Sounds to me like you should go play WoW... Or some other mmo that caters to your play style and needs. Not meaning to be offensive just a suggestion here. Maybe this game just isn't for you.

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