Originally posted by Naral

Originally posted by Herodes

 

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Originally posted by Quizzical
Remember that a lot of games discount the original box after a while because they want to get you to start paying subscription fees.  ArenaNet doesn't have that incentive.

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They do have a cash shop, which is not that different as a source of income.

 

The other side would be the more you wait with buying a new MMO, the less people play in the starter zones, which makes playing in an MMO more boring.

Not only does less people in zones make MMORPGs less interactive socially, in a game like GW2 it is pretty much mandatory having a group for many of the champions etc, both world spawns and DEs. I have noticed some zones seem empty, though for the most part my wife and I have been able to find the folks we need to take down the champion mobs, but I could see it being a problem in the long term.

Gotta respond to this, the numbers in starter zones have cut way down, BUT if you see an event starting just /m in the chat window and let people know and link the closest way point, people WILL COME, I did this with my lvl12 necro today(3rd toon) and people showed up within 5 min to "Zerg" one of the major norn starter zone DE's.....

despite what some will say, the games not dead, its not low on players, at least not on the servers i have tried, you just need to use mapchat to let people know whats going on and where.....others will pickup the same thing and let you know where stuffs happening...

I have sat more then once for an hour + just talking with people, because it is a social game, I have ran into a handfull or jerks, but they tend to go away pretty fast when people ignore them(rclick name click ignore/block), the games mostly full of people just looking for a reason to team up with others and be social.....

I have met some really great people so far(been in this since before first bwe), mostly just running around doing random stuff, joining ad-hoc groups then finding out we had alot in common....one guy helped me get my story mission i was stuck on done, then we did his next 3(got him up to where i was) then we did 2 more, it was a blast, and when he finished the map, he got some exotic shoulders for my class, gave them to me because i helped him AND i gave him a rare hammer that was ALOT better then what he had.....

people in this game are great for the most part......anets doing a pretty good job dealing with real aholes and keeping the community clean....

that said: the game does have its warts and bugs, but anet are steadly bringing this game to a state that i would call gold...NO mmo has had this good a launch......hell MoP has at least as many bugs if not more, and its an expantion to WoW, a game thats 7 years old......

Originally posted by Quizzical
Remember that a lot of games discount the original box after a while because they want to get you to start paying subscription fees.  ArenaNet doesn't have that incentive.

Wrong. Companies discount their games after initial release to pick up sales after the initial launch, and that is EXACTLY what is going to happen to GW2.

Originally posted by JackFrosty

Originally posted by Quizzical
Remember that a lot of games discount the original box after a while because they want to get you to start paying subscription fees.  ArenaNet doesn't have that incentive.

Wrong. Companies discount their games after initial release to pick up sales after the initial launch, and that is EXACTLY what is going to happen to GW2.

I also expect they will put the game up on Steam eventually, as gw1 is now, but, it wont be for a bit.

I could see them doing a christmas sale on sites like greenman and possibly even directly cutting the price by 10usd or so to get some sales, greenman already had the DE for 20bucks off recently(may still i havent checked)

their sales have been quite good, despite the week down time for online/restock they made over 2 million sales in a couple weeks time, thats impressive(over 1 million of them before the game even launched!!!) 

sure some people dont like the game, sure lower level zones have less people flooding them now.....but thats expected, I find it better now then early on, at least in every zone i enter there are people AND if you see a DE and /m it, people come running.....

Originally posted by Tokken
If you like to play solo, have no sense of community and like to craft (which is pointless). Go for it.  It's a game without a soul.

1. Join guild

2. Party with guild

3. ???

4. Profit

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1. Gather mats

2. Make yourself better gear than you already have

3. ???

4. Profit

This game has more soul than any MMO I can think of. It's the first time since my early days in Norrath that I feel like I'm in a world bigger than me begging to be explored.

Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by Tokken
If you like to play solo, have no sense of community and like to craft (which is pointless). Go for it.  It's a game without a soul.

1. Join guild

2. Party with guild

3. ???

4. Profit

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1. Gather mats

2. Make yourself better gear than you already have

3. ???

4. Profit

 

This game has more soul than any MMO I can think of. It's the first time since my early days in Norrath that I feel like I'm in a world bigger than me begging to be explored.

Most good MMos don't force you to join a guild before you can socialize.