Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Dodge roll = you just mitigated 100% of the damage.

Learn to play.

calm down dude. no reason to be upset. couple things. 1) i did mention i'm learning still, and 2) i'm tryin to relearn on a G13 again and changed up my dodge and movement. no need to be harsh bro. this isn't my best play, it's just play i recorded. i like makin these vids so far and don't mind sharin them with non guildies.

edit: so i don't sound rude.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

still learning the class, but i made a vid of a recorded match i did last night. figured this would be the thread to share it. i'll check other sub forums as well, but either way, here it is. hope you enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YiNhgM1crU

not too bad:).. i'm really not a fan of the GS on the warrior though.. sword/shield with hammer is an hell of a combo for solo and group fights i highly recommend it:) hopefully this weekend I can get some footage of some fights

thanks. still learning each class and the major builds. 100b warriors are all over the place so i figured it'd be the place to start as far as warriors go.

fraps takes up so much space so i only record a vid or two at a time. i like goin over my footage afterwards to see what i can impove on.

side note: wish we could get the mmorpg.com guild to come to Rall.  *cough

try bandicam its free for 10 min continuous recording although adds a little watermark but it compresses the files on the fly for you making them MUCH smaller than fraps.. you can actually adjust the output to suit for file size/quality needs

thanks for the heads up. i'll check it out today. fraps just takes up so much space.

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

thanks for the tip!  wondered what i was missing...   calm down dude. no reason to be upset. couple things. 1) i did mention i'm learning still, and 2) i'm tryin to relearn on a G13 again and changed up my dodge and movement. no need to be harsh bro. this isn't my best play, it's just play i recorded. i like makin these vids so far and don't mind sharin them with non guildies.

actually, goin over your post history i think this is a wasted post..

Why would you assume my comment was directed at you? It wasn't, it was directed at the OP, due to his ignorance regarding how to counter HB/Frenzy.

If you refer to the final post on the previous page, you would see I actually made a very helpful suggestion regarding your weaponsets.

Want another helpful tip? Leave Sanctum of Rall asap, it will be the best decision you ever made.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

thanks for the tip!  wondered what i was missing...   calm down dude. no reason to be upset. couple things. 1) i did mention i'm learning still, and 2) i'm tryin to relearn on a G13 again and changed up my dodge and movement. no need to be harsh bro. this isn't my best play, it's just play i recorded. i like makin these vids so far and don't mind sharin them with non guildies.

actually, goin over your post history i think this is a wasted post..

Why would you assume my comment was directed at you? It wasn't, it was directed at the OP, due to his ignorance regarding how to counter HB/Frenzy.

If you refer to the final post on the previous page, you would see I actually made a very helpful suggestion regarding your weaponsets.

oh ok man, sorry there then. i though you were refering to my vid i just posted. sorry for the mix up then. yeah, any tips would help.

the whole reason i'm trying to learn all the build is to learn hard counters. someone was tryin to tell me they can actually see the frenzy animation? i'm not sure i can catch it. have graphics maxed out, but i don't see much of an animation, just the boon tag.\

edit: and yeah, i adjusted my post to not sound rude. changed it right after i posted it as i don't like to come off that way.

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

thanks for the tip!  wondered what i was missing...   calm down dude. no reason to be upset. couple things. 1) i did mention i'm learning still, and 2) i'm tryin to relearn on a G13 again and changed up my dodge and movement. no need to be harsh bro. this isn't my best play, it's just play i recorded. i like makin these vids so far and don't mind sharin them with non guildies.

actually, goin over your post history i think this is a wasted post..

Why would you assume my comment was directed at you? It wasn't, it was directed at the OP, due to his ignorance regarding how to counter HB/Frenzy.

If you refer to the final post on the previous page, you would see I actually made a very helpful suggestion regarding your weaponsets.

oh ok man, sorry there then. i though you were refering to my vid i just posted. sorry for the mix up then. yeah, any tips would help.

the whole reason i'm trying to learn all the build is to learn hard counters. someone was tryin to tell me they can actually see the frenzy animation? i'm not sure i can catch it. have graphics maxed out, but i don't see much of an animation, just the boon tag.

All good bud, it happens. Sometimes it's hard to tell who is addressing who around here.

Regarding Frenzy:

Don't worry so much about watching for the Frenzy.

Good Warriors will Bull's Charge before they Frenzy and activate Frenzy and HB right as Bull's Charge lands. If you actually see someone popping buffs as they run towards you that's a good sign that they are an amateur, experienced players generally do not make that mistake, as it gives your enemy an advantage before the engagement has even begun.

Just concentrate on avoiding the Bull's Charge and then dodge rolling away from the Warrior, as he will now be either stuck in place while HB runs it's course, or he will have cancelled and his HB will now be on cooldown. He is now down his main burst ability, his quickness buff and his charge until all three are off cooldown and you still have all your tricks remaining.

Also, I'm not saying that watching for buffs being popped isn't beneficial, because it is essential. I'm just saying that the players you'll want to watch out for will be the ones that pop those buffs midfight and not ahead of time when it's blatantly obvious to your opponent.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Don't worry so much about watching for the Frenzy.

Good Warriors will Bull's Charge before they Frenzy and activate Frenzy and HB right as Bull's Charge lands. If you actually see someone popping buffs as they run towards you that's a good sign that they are an amateur, experienced players generally do not make that mistake, as it gives your enemy an advantage before the engagement has even begun.

Just concentrate on avoiding the Bull's Charge and then dodge rolling away from the Warrior, as he will now be either stuck in place while HB runs it's course, or he will have cancelled and his HB will now be on cooldown. He is now down his main burst ability, his quickness buff and his charge until all three are off cooldown and you still have all your tricks remaining.

Also, I'm not saying that watching for buffs being popped isn't beneficial, because it is essential. I'm just saying that the players you'll want to watch out for will be the ones that pop those buffs midfight and not ahead of time when it's blatantly obvious to your opponent.

this morning i just started to charge before i frenzy, but wasn't too sure that was a good call or not. i feel like i get ability lag depending on hours of the day i play, it may be in my head though. i'm still only doing it like every other time.

the other thing i've been trying to do which i feel is really bad is save my balanced stance for downing someone in group fights. i feel like i waste it half the time. mesmers and thiefs i don't really worry too much about, as they're porting anyways, but i try and keep it for something like a good guardian. overall i know i can be doing a better job with it. i'm sure i wasted it enough times in that video alone.

actually, something else, but this is really just me not doing my homework (which i'll do right after this post), but i tend to sit on a full bar of adrenaline more often the not. i save it for the sword/shield and for my heal, but i'm thinkin the heal is only like 2500 extra healing or so with the full bar. may or may not be worth it. i guess it really comes down to not knowing the class enough. i'm not really sure how fast the bar builds. will have to go over it a bit more to find out. class mechanics are the things that are screwing me up overall. hard for me to log the timing in my head of things like steal, adrenaline, etc. i'm just not thinking about them as much as weapon and utility skills.

Starting to charge before the Frenzy is definitely a good call, it keeps you from wasting about a second on the quickness buff (which is short to begin with), and isn't as obvious to the opponent.

My suggestion to further that, is that you do NOT open with Bull's Charge or even HB/Frenzy if you are in melee range already. Engage your opponent and deliver a few strikes from your auto attack, get them confident, snare them, and then Bull's Charge and HB/Frenzy. With that method you will land the HB/Frenzy nine out of ten times.

Are you strictly set on playing an offensive warrior, or would you be interested in playing a defensive warrior as well? Your main job in sPvP would be bunkering down at control points and holding them until your team arrives to back you up.

I myself am a defensive warrior and rarely play greatsword unless I'm doing hot join matches. In tournies I am always built defensively for bunkering.

Thief backstab crit kill was harder to pull off than playing a warrior with knock down/haste/hundred blades and the thief is the only one that gets nerfed? I swear the skill balance guy just favours a certain class because he and his Anet buddies play them. What's the point of playing a thief if you get rewarded with less damage, less armor and less HP when warriors can just knock you down and kill you.

The short of it is, you don't have to focus when fighting every other class. When fighting a warrior, you have to watch out for a .5 animation. And if you happen to not be looking? You're dead in about 3 seconds.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Starting to charge before the Frenzy is definitely a good call, it keeps you from wasting about a second on the quickness buff (which is short to begin with), and isn't as obvious to the opponent.

My suggestion to further that, is that you do NOT open with Bull's Charge or even HB/Frenzy if you are in melee range already. Engage your opponent and deliver a few strikes from your auto attack,, get them confident, snare them, and then Bull's Charge and HB/Frenzy. With that method you will land the HB/Frenzy nine out of ten times.

Are you strictly set on playing an offensive warrior, or would you be interested in playing a defensive warrior as well? Your main job in sPvP would be bunkering down at control points and holding them until your team arrives to back you up.

I myself am a defensive warrior and rarely play greatsword unless I'm doing hot join matches. In tournies I am always built defensively for bunkering.

i'll play whatever. i'm really just trying to get a feel for each class and see what they are able to pull off and how to counter. 100b warriors are all over the place, so i figured i'd be a safe place to start on this warrior.

Originally posted by Betakodo

Thief backstab crit kill was harder to pull off than playing a warrior with knock down/haste/hundred blades and the thief is the only one that gets nerfed? I swear the skill balance guy just favours a certain class because he and his Anet buddies play them. What's the point of playing a thief if you get rewarded with less damage, less armor and less HP when warriors can just knock you down and kill you.

The short of it is, you don't have to focus when fighting every other class. When fighting a warrior, you have to watch out for a .5 animation. And if you happen to not be looking? You're dead in about 3 seconds.

No part of using CnD and then Backstabbing was ever difficult if you were a competent Thief.

Good thieves aren't complaining at all. Think about that for a second...

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

i'll play whatever. i'm really just trying to get a feel for each class and see what they are able to pull off and how to counter. 100b warriors are all over the place, so i figured i'd be a safe place to start on this warrior.

If you decide to checkout a defensive warrior shoot me a PM, I can provide you with the build link and all essential information about the mechanics and choices behind the build.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

i'll play whatever. i'm really just trying to get a feel for each class and see what they are able to pull off and how to counter. 100b warriors are all over the place, so i figured i'd be a safe place to start on this warrior.

If you decide to checkout a defensive warrior shoot me a PM, I can provide you with the build link and all essential information about the mechanics and choices behind the build.

 

that'd be great, thanks. i'm still not confident with this 100b build yet, but i think in a couple days i should be ready to move on. i'm not trying to "master" it or anything, just really trying to see what they're capable of. range, CDs, etc. trying to get it lodged into my memory. again, thanks though. i'll be hitting you up about that build.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

No part of using CnD and then Backstabbing was ever difficult if you were a competent Thief.

Good thieves aren't complaining at all. Think about that for a second...

Cool your ego boyo, the point is that they nerfed the damage of backstab from being a instant kill but left Warriors untouched. A warrior bull rushing in and knocking you down is not as obvious and slow as a thief trying for a backstab.

As someone with several 80's in exotic gear( War/Guard/Thief) I can definetely say that I am OP as a War. I'm also OP as a thief. For different reasons though- People kill themselves against my warrior, i kill people on the thief.

For warrior i like to get right in the middle of a skirmish full of flying abiliy-fireworks and let loose 100B, most don't see it happening and then suddenly it's "Hey why r i died?"

Also sometimes ill fight 1 on 1 and the player just doesnt move much, and doesnt try and dodge away from it....not my fault ^^

Get killed plenty , but kills/deaths ratio is very nice.

Thief is just OP , but not in a numbers way really. As a SMART thief, you'll run into situations knowing whats what and ' flip everyone's table ' because you just hurt so much so fast. doesnt seem many people react quick enough to sudden thief buttsex.

In conclusion, i think it's just players needing to learn, and being lazy/want it given to them. Fine by me, almost half the badges needed to epic lewts to go!