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  pupurun

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OP  10/05/12 7:45:58 AM#1
Simple choice and always a matter of personal opinion of course. Whether it's because of Pay to Win tactics or because it's limiting gameplay you can express your opinion here and even justify it.

What is in your opinion the worst FTP plan ever applied on a mmo

AGE OF CONAN
VANGUARD,SAGA OF HEROES
DC UNIVERSE
EVERQUEST 2
LORD OF THE RINGS ONLINE
ALLODS ONLINE
AION
CITY OF HEROES
STAR TREK ONLINE
OTHER(please post your choice)
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  Theocritus

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10/05/12 7:56:26 AM#2
     I think the worst one I saw was Wizard 101.....I dont mind being limited on classes or races, but once I cant access alot of the zones then I tend to leave.....Being limited severely on gear in games like Vanguard is also frustrating.
  Nadia

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10/05/12 8:06:56 AM#3

i enjoyed DDO and i appreciate that players can grind for Turbine points but i still find the free content very limiting

 

once you get to level 12 the majority of the game content is paid access or a long grind to earn turbine points

  Volkon

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10/05/12 11:13:21 AM#4
Originally posted by Theocritus
     I think the worst one I saw was Wizard 101.....I dont mind being limited on classes or races, but once I cant access alot of the zones then I tend to leave.....Being limited severely on gear in games like Vanguard is also frustrating.

 

Funny, I thought of Wizard 101 first as well. You have that little starter type area then locked gates keeping you out of the rest of the game. Hate that style.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  DavisFlight

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10/05/12 11:21:46 AM#5

How in holy hell is LotRO losing to VANGUARD, the game with one of the most open FTP systems out there?

 

There's something sacriligious about breaking apart Middle Earth and selling them chunk by chunk, and then selling quests on top of that.

Vanguard I can play the entire game, every piece of content, every quest, every dungeon, to level 55, for FREE.

I can't do that in LotRO, or almost any other FTP game.

  Pouf

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10/05/12 11:23:30 AM#6
I would say wizard 101 too. It is a kid game but i tried it anyways, kinda enjoyed it then go stuck in a low level zone and i was like WTH..
  GeezerGamer

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10/05/12 11:29:15 AM#7

2 companies that have damaged the MMO genre more than any others are Activision and Turbine. Activision for destryoying the Meta-Games in exchange for ease of leveling and the age of entitlement into MMOs.  And Turbine for destroying the idea of paying for equal opportunity.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  DavisFlight

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10/05/12 11:38:33 AM#8
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

2 companies that have damaged the MMO genre more than any others are Activision and Turbine. Activision for destryoying the Meta-Games in exchange for ease of leveling and the age of entitlement into MMOs.  And Turbine for destroying the idea of paying for equal opportunity.

Blizzard didn't just kill meta game, they killed MMOPGs in general. Its all casual soloing and small scale raids now.

 

But yes, Turbine's awful FTP system.... even if you subscribe you don't get access to all the stuff you used to before the FTP shift. Meanwhile, you can still sub to Vanguard and get everything you used to get.

And somehow VG is winning the poll. Pathetic.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

10/05/12 11:40:29 AM#9

I voted City of Heroes, as even with a sub you are strongly encouraged to buy stuff on top of the sub. I created a character the other month, on a sub, for he first time since it went F2P, and what I chose needed to be bought in the store. I could not be bothered to cnacel and redo, so used the points I accrued from the monthly sub Afterwards I realised that you could just show what is free, but on a sub it should all be free.

I like LOTRO and STO as you can earn points as you play, and STO has to be the best, as a lot of it can be played without paying a penny, and there is not many restrictions at all.

With LOTRO and especially STO, F2P generates more gameplay (or if you like grinding but still more fun than a boring job!) if you do not want to spend any real money. If you do not want to grind, then sub or buy points, but the game has to get money from somewhere.

  eddieg50

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10/05/12 11:41:39 AM#10
If you think Lotro and Vanguard has a worse F2P system than AOC than you have never played AOC.  AOC is a good game but has a terrible F2P.  Out of the games I have played Aion has the best and FE is good also
  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

10/05/12 11:59:04 AM#11
Originally posted by DavisFlight
 

 

But yes, Turbine's awful FTP system.... even if you subscribe you don't get access to all the stuff you used to before the FTP shift.

I haven't experienced that myself in LOTRO. I sub and have not been limited.

The only thing that I have spent with my points is extra char slots and the riding skill on new characters that I do not have time to get to level 20 before the limited-tme mounts get stabled, and can not wait for them to come available again. They are not necessary purchases though.

  User Deleted
10/05/12 12:22:58 PM#12
Originally posted by DavisFlight

How in holy hell is LotRO losing to VANGUARD, the game with one of the most open FTP systems out there?

 

There's something sacriligious about breaking apart Middle Earth and selling them chunk by chunk, and then selling quests on top of that.

Vanguard I can play the entire game, every piece of content, every quest, every dungeon, to level 55, for FREE.

I can't do that in LotRO, or almost any other FTP game.

 

Actually SOE, Turbine, Funcom and most other western publishers don't use F2P monetization. They use the Freemium model instead. There's a difference. Asian MMOs use F2P but put incentives in the game to use the cash shop. However the entire world is available to play in most Asian mmos to max level without using the cash shop if you really want to. You'll have to be a grind monkey to do it but it is possible.

 

Western publishers don't want those kind of users in their games so they went with the Freemium model instead. The Freemium game really is more of a time-unlimited account restricted DEMO but there are clear in-game limitations between the person who goes Freemium only vs one who pays a monthly sub.

 

My gripe is with companies that combine Freemium with cash shops too. To my mind it's the worst of both and while it's good for the company it diminishes value to all but that game's dedicated fandom.

Not sure about SOE on this score but I know for sure Turbine does this. I suspect if Turbine went with one or the other they might see their paying-userbase for LOTRO and D&D go up but apparently they themselves think that's not the case.

 

I remember reading an interview by the game director at Turbine a few years back right after D&D went Freemium plus cash shop and they saw their revenues shoot up. He talked excitedly about how they'd discovered this business model - Freemium (aka restricted demo for unlimited amount of time) plus the cash shop was viable.

 

They'd discovered this model lets them double-dip into the wallets of the "whales" among their userbase. The ones who not only pay a monthly sub but also spend on the cash shop too every month. It convinced him Freemium plus cash shops was the way to go for Turbine in the future and quite possibly for the industry as a whole.

  Quizzical

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10/05/12 1:10:20 PM#13
People seem to be replying based on what you can get for free without paying at all.  In that case, of course a subscription game with a not terribly generous free trial is going to be the "worst".  That basically turns the thread into "which game has the least generous free trial?"
  JeroKane

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10/05/12 1:11:56 PM#14
Both EverQuest 2 and Vanguard!  Hands down the worst ever F2P implementation!
  Jaedor

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10/05/12 1:15:03 PM#15


Originally posted by DavisFlight
How in holy hell is LotRO losing to VANGUARD, the game with one of the most open FTP systems out there? 

There's something sacriligious about breaking apart Middle Earth and selling them chunk by chunk, and then selling quests on top of that.

Vanguard I can play the entire game, every piece of content, every quest, every dungeon, to level 55, for FREE.

I can't do that in LotRO, or almost any other FTP game.


I'd like to know how you can play every piece of Vanguard for free as I certainly can't build and enjoy my own house, which is why I wanted to play it. I can't wear certain kinds of gear or have enough cash to do many things without a sub.


And as for LOTRO, everything but access to PvP is available to F2P players. Yes, there is a grind for TP to do it, but it's been done.


Edit: I did reply to the poll being literal with F2P, meaning I could play the entire game without spending any real cash. The SOE games are very limited with caps on gear, currency, mail, housing that can only be removed by subscribing. In comparison, I prefer the Turbine model where I can remove those caps by grinding in-game currency and never have to spend a dime. This to me is a genuine F2P, but is obviously just my opinion.

  Aelious

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10/05/12 1:19:39 PM#16
Originally posted by JeroKane
Both EverQuest 2 and Vanguard!  Hands down the worst ever F2P implementation!

 

Your opinion is your own but does this have to do more with the company running it or the specific payment structure?

 

IMO being able to play close an entire sub game for free is a pretty good deal.  None of the restrictions are holding you back from the content available to you.  Just my opinion.

  DavisFlight

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10/05/12 1:20:04 PM#17
Originally posted by Jaedor

 


Originally posted by DavisFlight
How in holy hell is LotRO losing to VANGUARD, the game with one of the most open FTP systems out there? 

 

There's something sacriligious about breaking apart Middle Earth and selling them chunk by chunk, and then selling quests on top of that.

Vanguard I can play the entire game, every piece of content, every quest, every dungeon, to level 55, for FREE.

I can't do that in LotRO, or almost any other FTP game.


 

I'd like to know how you can play every piece of Vanguard for free as I certainly can't build and enjoy my own house, which is why I wanted to play it. I can't wear certain kinds of gear or have enough cash to do many things without a sub.


And as for LOTRO, everything but access to PvP is available to F2P players. Yes, there is a grind for TP to do it, but it's been done.

Oh yeah, my mistake, I can spend 2 months grinding tokens to unlock one zone in LotRO, that means its much better than a game that doesn't lock any zones quests or dungeons at all, right?

And the restricted items are about 1/100th of the items that you'll encounter in the game, and you can unlock them for a quarter. 25 cents.

 

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

10/05/12 1:22:24 PM#18
Originally posted by Theocritus
     I think the worst one I saw was Wizard 101.....I dont mind being limited on classes or races, but once I cant access alot of the zones then I tend to leave.....Being limited severely on gear in games like Vanguard is also frustrating.

/agree Wizard 101 makes me sick and does not deserve the f2p title.

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  Aelious

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10/05/12 1:26:34 PM#19
Originally posted by SereneBlue

Actually SOE, Turbine, Funcom and most other western publishers don't use F2P monetization. They use the Freemium model instead. There's a difference. Asian MMOs use F2P but put incentives in the game to use the cash shop. However the entire world is available to play in most Asian mmos to max level without using the cash shop if you really want to. You'll have to be a grind monkey to do it but it is possible.

 

In order to compare pricing models you also have to compare game quality and the cost to develop.  The asian market of F2P games that started the craze over here is not the same quality of game IMO as most listed in the poll.  They are almost carbon copies of one another on similar engines but with different skins and topical gameplay.  That method does not nearly cost the same amount as games developed from scratch with their own identity and deep content.

  FrodoFragins

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10/05/12 1:33:14 PM#20

Absolute worst are P2W games like Allods and Runes of Magic.

 

Second worst are any F2P MMOs that don't give you free access to all quests to the release level cap.  That's probably why LOTRO is in there.  Sure you can grind the turbine points, but they should at least get you to Moria for free, preferably to ROI.

 

AoC and the soon to be F2P SWTOR basically want you to subscribe to get content.  F2P is just to lure you in to try the game.  These models generally fail miserably as word of mouth kept players away in the first place.

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