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  User Deleted
10/04/12 2:14:59 PM#141

Boy do I feel silly.

 

Had I known this was a bar raising 9.3 game of perfection, I wouldn't have allowed myself to get bored and stopped playing after 4 weeks.

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  Eluldor

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10/04/12 2:16:09 PM#142

Originally posted by grimal


Originally posted by GrayGhost79


Originally posted by grimal

Longevity 9?   How in the world did you come up with this number?


Edit:  I guess since "hundreds and hundreds of hours" equals a 9, the expectation is for an MMO to satiate our appetites for a month?  If so, what's the big deal if it's B2P or P2P since all the content is done within that first month and there is never a need to pay past the inital box price?



I've put in almost 300 hours in the last month and ... theres still a ton of stuff for me to do. Contents there and will last you a good while.



That's one month.  Compared to every other MMO (including Vanguard, EQ and everything else), a 9 is basically saying the longevity of this game is the length of playtime all MMOs should strive for.   Have we gotten to the point where 1-2 months of play is a 9????



300 hours into one month is 10 hours a day, I hope you're old and retired - because that is pretty absurd otherwise. 300 into 2 months is 5 hours a day, that is still above my gaming rate into the game, and I consider mine to be pretty high at 180 hrs over 40 days (4.5), and I'm sitting around recovering from a foot injury. So for folks working and having other hobbies, I can easily see these be expanded to twice its length. That is 3-4 months.


  animeoutlaw

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Joined: 7/23/08
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10/04/12 2:26:51 PM#143

Meh, I really wanted to like this game. Seeing as how the original Guild Wars just didn't do it for me. However, I couldn't get past the first 11 levels because I felt like I was just aimlessly wondering around, by myself, with no real human interaction except for the randoms you bump into during the dynamic events (whom never even responded whenever I tried to talk to them). I don't know, I guess I'm still a fan of the FFXI social experience. Where grouping was, and is still absolutely necessary. And because of that you met a lot of amazing people and made a lot of amazing friends; while shooting the shit and kicking monster ass until the sun came up.




I will say this though, graphically, they did a very nice job with the game. And I do like the classes and the unique way they made the weapons you use dependant on the skills you can use (at least as an Elementalist. Haven't tried the other classes). Though I still find the camera movement much to clunky and awkward for my taste. However, I do like that there is plenty of exploration to do in the game as well. But, the social experience as a whole killed it for me. I never even really saw people talking in the "General" chat. Not unless someone just wanted help with something and was looking for a hand.




As a whole, I felt like I was playing a Single Player console title with the acronym "MMO" slapped on there just for the fun of it. A trend that's been on the rise for a while that's really bumming me out. Seems like if I want a great social experience I'll have to go back to the older titles that first got me hooked. But I'd much rather something a bit new, and innovative, and that DOESN'T lean towards the "You don't have to play with anyone...EVER...if you don't want to. Pffft, save that shit for end game.". Makes me sad...:(





 

  Cyrael

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Posts: 60

10/04/12 2:27:39 PM#144
Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by grimal


Originally posted by GrayGhost79


Originally posted by grimal

Longevity 9?   How in the world did you come up with this number?


Edit:  I guess since "hundreds and hundreds of hours" equals a 9, the expectation is for an MMO to satiate our appetites for a month?  If so, what's the big deal if it's B2P or P2P since all the content is done within that first month and there is never a need to pay past the inital box price?


I've put in almost 300 hours in the last month and ... theres still a ton of stuff for me to do. Contents there and will last you a good while.


That's one month.  Compared to every other MMO (including Vanguard, EQ and everything else), a 9 is basically saying the longevity of this game is the length of playtime all MMOs should strive for.   Have we gotten to the point where 1-2 months of play is a 9????


300 hours into one month is 10 hours a day, I hope you're old and retired - because that is pretty absurd otherwise. 300 into 2 months is 5 hours a day, that is still above my gaming rate into the game, and I consider mine to be pretty high at 180 hrs over 40 days (4.5), and I'm sitting around recovering from a foot injury. So for folks working and having other hobbies, I can easily see these be expanded to twice its length. That is 3-4 months.

 

As someone who plays about 8-10 hours a week, I'm personally looking forward to my next three years of GW2. :)

  Jonoku

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"Veni Vidi Vici"

10/04/12 2:28:25 PM#145
one of my favorite mmorpgs but not the best.

Looking at: The Repopulation
Preordering: None
Playing: Real Life

  User Deleted
10/04/12 2:43:03 PM#146
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  Daddydazzle

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Joined: 5/14/10
Posts: 408

10/04/12 2:43:05 PM#147

if i wrote a review for GW2, this would be it.


nice job on the write up.


Experience is the best teacher.. if you can afford the tuition.

  Pretender00

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Joined: 10/29/10
Posts: 82

10/04/12 2:45:00 PM#148

I think it deserves the score it got.


Just last night the Tarnished Coast crew was in Sea of Sorrow's zone capturing Hero's Lodge. I had run by solo and had seen the dots on the screen showing our group battling there, when low and behold I run into the Gates of Madness zerg steaming on headed directly at me. I turned around and ran into the Hero's Lodge encampment with them on my heels. I ran directly into our group and the battle began. GoM had us outnumbered 3-1 but our guys spread out and aoe'd the heck out of their massive zerg. After a good amount of coordination and tactics we crushed them completely! Outnumbered 3-1, joined together we perservered and overcame the odds. Afterwards we all congratulated each other and the commander we had present. Several people shouted out how much they LOVE our server. If that's not good social atmosphere I don't know what is.


I don't know how other servers are but the atmosphere on Tarnished Coast has made this game for me. I've spent alot more time in WvW recently and we always have good coordination and leadership. I've yet to see a bunch of asshats running around.


FOR THE COAST !!


 


 


  Amana

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10/04/12 2:47:21 PM#149
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  Yakamomoto

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10/04/12 2:47:25 PM#150

this score is a joke. Boring story, boring fetch quests, not worth a sub. 6/10 at best
















Arenanet must have paid a fortune in advertising money.  For me this site has lost any credibility today.








Thanks for such reviews, now we can be prepared for another 10 years of brain dead quest goals and collect quests from other developers. Thanks, really, well done.































 






















 










 




 

  grimal

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10/04/12 2:49:06 PM#151
Originally posted by Cyrael
Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by grimal


Originally posted by GrayGhost79


Originally posted by grimal

Longevity 9?   How in the world did you come up with this number?


Edit:  I guess since "hundreds and hundreds of hours" equals a 9, the expectation is for an MMO to satiate our appetites for a month?  If so, what's the big deal if it's B2P or P2P since all the content is done within that first month and there is never a need to pay past the inital box price?


I've put in almost 300 hours in the last month and ... theres still a ton of stuff for me to do. Contents there and will last you a good while.


That's one month.  Compared to every other MMO (including Vanguard, EQ and everything else), a 9 is basically saying the longevity of this game is the length of playtime all MMOs should strive for.   Have we gotten to the point where 1-2 months of play is a 9????


300 hours into one month is 10 hours a day, I hope you're old and retired - because that is pretty absurd otherwise. 300 into 2 months is 5 hours a day, that is still above my gaming rate into the game, and I consider mine to be pretty high at 180 hrs over 40 days (4.5), and I'm sitting around recovering from a foot injury. So for folks working and having other hobbies, I can easily see these be expanded to twice its length. That is 3-4 months.

 

As someone who plays about 8-10 hours a week, I'm personally looking forward to my next three years of GW2. :)

Just don't play during the holidays or you might lose a year of playability there. :P

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  tank017

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10/04/12 2:50:44 PM#152
Close enough i guess.Good game, though it definitely has its flaws, also gets boring fast, really can't play beyond an hour or 2.Id prolly give it a 9 at most.
  Creslin321

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10/04/12 2:55:02 PM#153
Originally posted by Yakamomoto

this score is a joke. Boring story, boring fetch quests, not worth a sub. 6/10 at best


 


thanls for such reviews, now we can be prepared for another 10 years of brain dead quest goals and collect quests. Thanks, really



 

 I really don't like golf, like at all, and I also have something against Italian plumbers.  So I give Mario Golf a 4/10.

Do you see anything wrong with this review score?

Ah yes, I based my score completely on personal preferences, biases, and ignored any of the objective merits of the game.  Anyone who gives GW2 something below a 7, is doing the same.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  User Deleted
10/04/12 2:57:47 PM#154
Originally posted by Creslin321

 I really don't like golf, like at all, and I also have something against Italian plumbers.  So I give Mario Golf a 4/10.

Do you see anything wrong with this review score?

Ah yes, I based my score completely on personal preferences, biases, and ignored any of the objective merits of the game.  Anyone who gives GW2 something below a 7, is doing the same.

Talking like a true gamer here.

I strongly disliked TSW after being in the permanent beta (very boring, linear game), yet I would never give it less than 7/10. Just the artwork and a few gameplay innovations are worth the score... and you wouldn't pay me enough to play the game. That's what being unbiased means.

  ShakyMo

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10/04/12 3:00:14 PM#155
Nadia:
Spot on, if any game is diablo in mmo form, its wow.
  Draemos

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Posts: 1111

10/04/12 3:00:25 PM#156

I made it to level 30 and realized I was doing the same handful of things over and over again and that everything was a Zerg .  I couldnt force myself to play more than an hour at a time without getting restless, Probably the worst leveling experience I've had  in a AAA game.  Hell I even made it to a higher level in Aion.  I wouldn't even have made it to 30 if the engineer wasn't a moderately unique class.

 

Your bar must be sticking about two inches out of the mud, because this game is decent at best, and most of that comes from engine and graphics

  Bladestrom

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10/04/12 3:04:02 PM#157
Doh you shouldn't have done the same thing over and over and joined the zergs.

rpg/mmorg history: Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (9500 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(350 elementalist)

Now playing GW2/Diablo 3/Rift

Waiting Archeage.

  Draemos

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10/04/12 3:07:23 PM#158
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Doh you shouldn't have done the same thing over and over and joined the zergs.

So play a different game? Way ahead of ya,

  Sinaku

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 331

10/04/12 3:08:31 PM#159
I think this is a problem with me getting older and having a falling out with MMOs but I got bored rather quickly. Fun game, great scenery, loved exploring, nice combat, fun pvp, but still something for me was missing and like I said I think it is with me and not the game. Deserves a 9.0 something I agree.
  grimal

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10/04/12 3:10:21 PM#160
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Yakamomoto

this score is a joke. Boring story, boring fetch quests, not worth a sub. 6/10 at best


 


thanls for such reviews, now we can be prepared for another 10 years of brain dead quest goals and collect quests. Thanks, really



 

 I really don't like golf, like at all, and I also have something against Italian plumbers.  So I give Mario Golf a 4/10.

Do you see anything wrong with this review score?

Ah yes, I based my score completely on personal preferences, biases, and ignored any of the objective merits of the game.  Anyone who gives GW2 something below a 7, is doing the same.

Creslin, you are usually very fair.  But for some reasor n, you seem to denounce anyone who gives GW2 a score lower than you deem acceptable.  You love the game, fine.   But just because someone doesn't love your game, you dismiss their view entirely.

This reeks of arrogance.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

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