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  bigcheeseuk

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Joined: 11/22/08
Posts: 112

10/04/12 4:27:09 AM#41
This game is a blast! There's much more depth to it than I thought there would be, very true to the table top game.
  Scot

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10/04/12 4:50:12 AM#42
Depth? Difficulty? That is a rush of nostalgia. While not a MMO from my point of view, I have been keeping my eye on this one as an antidote to ezMMO hand holding and one click to top level gameplay.
  Thillian

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Posts: 3229

10/04/12 6:08:07 AM#43
I've been playing Battletech board game for over 20 years, and this game is much more truthful to the ruleset than MW2, MW3 and MW4.

REALITY CHECK

  adenbrazza

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Joined: 8/12/12
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10/04/12 6:29:54 AM#44

I've been playing MWO for quite a while now, being completely new to the MechWarrior series it was pretty newbie unfriendly at first. But there are heaps of guides for newbies from outstanding players in the community, and it only takes a bit of trial and error to really get into it.

If I hadn't joined the Australian MechWarrior Clan, I think I would've been insanely bored with the game. Communicating with your team to take the win's pretty fun. If I was still PUG'ing I think I would've stopped playing already, this isn't a game I can sit through four rounds in one sitting.

The game's great fun, and by the sounds of it it's going to have so much more to offer down the track.

  TheCrow2k

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Joined: 10/19/09
Posts: 956

10/04/12 7:12:59 AM#45
Originally posted by Butch808
Hawken is much better.

Depends what you want to play. Hawken handles like and FPS with jetpacks, infact its a lot like the mech parts of Shogo. MWO handles like a giant mech and is more of a tactical Sim which is what the mechwarrior games always where.

Personally I think with the love a lot of people have for the Mechwarrior Franchise MWO could well get F2P GOTY 2012.
  Blarklark

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Joined: 6/26/08
Posts: 6

10/04/12 7:14:29 AM#46
I used to play Mech LOOONG ago.. I always died during the training... totally not hardcord player here lol...
  Akumawraith

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Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 223

Why is it said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Is there a shortage of bad ones?

10/04/12 7:21:23 AM#47
Originally posted by rommello
As for your futures comment, problem with this one's future setting is if you apply the same tech and wepons wasted on the mechs of this game....regular things like aircraft and armored vehicles outperform a thousand times better making these mechs obsolete...unlike mechs from say armored core for answer or even the latest hawken (AC making the regualr stuff near obsolete and hawken holding its own vs them)
Mechwarrior, Battletech, mech Commander all take place in the year 3k and such and tech has reached a peak. Lines drawn treaties met.. You play a pilot of a "Battlemech" and fight others Battlemechs solo or in Lances.

 

Clans are the major political arm and the mechs are 30-100 tonnes each. Standing at 30-50 ft and weighing that much they would be lumbering juggernauts, not fast moving Gundams.

 

Your comments are completely based on lack of information about the Battletech Universe. Do the research of where this games roots lie and the game play makes perfect sense.

 

Played: UO, LotR, WoW, SWG, DDO, AoC, EVE, Warhammer, TF2, EQ2, SWTOR, TSW, CSS, KF, L4D, AoW, WoT

Playing: WoT and anything else to break the boredom until something better comes out.

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  Heinz130

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Joined: 3/13/12
Posts: 227

War...war never change

10/04/12 7:52:28 AM#48

Im playing this beta for over a month now and im loving it,joined a good clan and we do like 20/1 there need to be a good pre-made to take us down

Still its just in beta,some things i wish to see being implemented on the game in future is:

-More mechs chassis,like the classics "BATTLEMASTER and MARAUDER

-More equipment customisation freedom

-All the mechwarriors usual arsenal

-Huge maps that also enforces some strategy,like WWIIOL or Planetside 2 at last

-Economy,politics and logistics relevance-Economy

 

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Playing WWII OL for some years untill now
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  Alitza

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Joined: 2/01/10
Posts: 3

10/04/12 10:55:00 AM#49

absolutely agree .these rly wrong way .fps cant take players for long time

so that game for a week and nothing more \

  TheMaelstrom

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Joined: 7/02/04
Posts: 395

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10/04/12 2:08:06 PM#50

I'm surprised the author didn't go into any detail about mech customization. It's pretty damn impressive. 

 

I've literally spent HOURS in the mech lab customizing and tweaking my mechs. This was my favorite part of PnP Battletech, and it's done *really* well in MWO.

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in doctrine that provide true believers excuse for mayhem.
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  Ozivois

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Joined: 4/17/10
Posts: 602

10/04/12 6:05:39 PM#51

I have been having more fun playing this game but it still bothers me that ppl paid $120 for a founder's membership that gave them special mechs you can't buy in-game.  The stats after each game show time after time that those founders players do the most dps and get the most exp and are usually still alive. 

I would consider paying in but the core MMO portion has not been implemented yet and if poorly done I wouldn't buy the game.

 

  aRtFuLThinG

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Joined: 4/30/09
Posts: 1116

10/04/12 6:28:00 PM#52
Originally posted by kileak

Actually one of the largest complaints about the game so far is how diffrent it is from the Table top rule set. from double armor and internal values to modified weapon values from dmg to heat to range to ammo per ton. Being able to equip massive weapons in slots ment for small weapons. boating specific weapon types and pushing mech's way beyond what anyone would of thought possible.

It has always been possible to do this in Battletech.

The only difference it in the tabletop ruleset you can't do it on the fly unless your mech is omni-mech. However it has always been possible to trade several medium lasers for 1 ppc slot for example.

  DrKRogue

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Joined: 10/04/12
Posts: 2

10/04/12 9:07:25 PM#53
The biggest problem I have with the game is the so-so graphics (a matter of taste I know) and the fact that they have decided that those that paid for "founders' packages" will have their premium time start with open beta rather than full release.  Until the metagame is in, I do not want to have my founders premium time start, indeed the whole reason I bought it was to get off to a good start once the game was complete with the metagame included.  Had I had that information before I bought the package I would not have paid.  They also are doing several other somewhat questionable things that smack of them trying to get an inordinate amount of money before formal, full release.  I do not mind "free-to-play games" trying to get players to spend money.  However, they should not change fundamental aspects of the purchase after they have gotten your money.
  Pantheos

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Posts: 56

10/05/12 6:06:25 AM#54

This right here is one of the most blatantly overhyped articles I've ever read from this site. I don't know what beta the author played but it wasn't the same one I have.

 

To whit: The game had promise, but, the heat mechanics, weapon damages, armor, engine limitations, collision faults and the fact that it is far easier, and quicker, to make money by losing as fast as possible show that the game needs TONS of work.

 

The fact that they're already charging RL money IN THE BETA is another massive warning sign. The grouping system needs tons of work, and articles like this are not helping the game, they're overhyping it.

 

I have massive nostalgia for BattleTech/MechWarrior myself, been playing for over 20 years, and they've missed the bar on this one by quite a bit.

  Hodo

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Joined: 6/05/08
Posts: 559

10/05/12 9:20:42 AM#55
Originally posted by Jackdog
hope it supports joysticks, using a high end joystick back the old series was the my favorite way to control that torso/movement. Had one with a trackball made just for mechwarrior, but it is in electronic heaven now. With just keyboard annd mouse you needed 14 fingers and keyboard skills from hell. I'll givre it a try regardless
 

It supports joysticks but its not worth it.  The support for joysticks is bad, you either move TOO fast or TOO slow.  There is no real fine tuneing of the stick.   So you are better off using a mouse.  

 

The controlls are stupidly simple, standard WASD movement with W,A controlling throttle you dont need to hold it down to keep going.   R locks target, so you can scan for information, other than that F9 brings up FPS.   Not much else needed other than right ctrl and the arrow keys for setting your weapons groups.   If you dont have a gaming mouse or use more than 2 weapons groups you will need to use your number keys on the top of your keyboard.   But thats not a big deal.    And Backspace cycles between group fire or chain fire.    O overides shutdowns, P shutsdown and powers up.    And thats it for controls.

 

You will need better than minimum specs, I suggest at least a i5 quad core or better and a 480 or better GPU.   Anything less than a quadcore and you are slideing settings down.   If your running a dual core you will be modifing the config file, because there are not enough ingame settings yet to make it playable for a dual core system. 

 

Right now the game is still very early in its beta and not quite where it should be.   It is getting better every other week so time will tell.

So much crap, so little quality.

  Drailli

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Joined: 10/05/12
Posts: 31

10/05/12 10:41:06 PM#56

For me the game just falls short of mechwarrior, the static enviroments, lack of explosions on mech destruction, and it the power for you to be one shotted by some mechs, just makes it feel wrong.

Add to it the fact that it is a glorified frag tag game, like you expect to be added onto the end of a single player game as mp not as a fully formed mmo. It just doesn't come across to me as a solid title. I grew up with mech warrior, and this game just really fails at being it.

I'll admit some of that may have changed, I've not logged in to play in over a month, it just feels not enough to live up to the companies promiss of a AAA free to play title, as well it really fails at the promiss of being a reboot of the mech warrior franchise. I see the chance that this will be more of the death nail to it.

 
  TheMaelstrom

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10/07/12 1:17:26 PM#57
Originally posted by Pantheos

This right here is one of the most blatantly overhyped articles I've ever read from this site. I don't know what beta the author played but it wasn't the same one I have.

 

To whit: The game had promise, but, the heat mechanics, weapon damages, armor, engine limitations, collision faults and the fact that it is far easier, and quicker, to make money by losing as fast as possible show that the game needs TONS of work.

 

The fact that they're already charging RL money IN THE BETA is another massive warning sign. The grouping system needs tons of work, and articles like this are not helping the game, they're overhyping it.

 

I have massive nostalgia for BattleTech/MechWarrior myself, been playing for over 20 years, and they've missed the bar on this one by quite a bit.

You obviously haven't been paying attention.

 

The issue w/ dying fast in order to make money faster was already fixed. It lasted.... one week. In the build prior to the build you're referring to, it was STUPID easy to make money regardless if you won or lost a match. Now, the latest patch (which fixed the issue you're crying about) has found a fantastic middle-ground. You earn enough to repair / re-arm plus bank some credits following a loss, and you earn even more following a win. That's the way it should be.

 

The fact that they're charging RL money is to test their system. They stated outright that anyone who chooses to use the system will have any investment made paid back for each beta server reset, and again for open beta and release. I'd rather they test the system in beta than wait until release and have it blow up in their faces and take weeks to fix (Diablo 3 anyone?).

 

I too have been playing Battletech for over 20 years, and I think MWO is as close to tabletop as any game has gotten.... and they still haven't even implemented a lot of features.

No godless person can comprehend those minute distinctions
in doctrine that provide true believers excuse for mayhem.
-Glen Cook

  FURYBlakhart

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10/08/12 7:45:14 PM#58

Ok.

 

MWO is a game recreating Battletech from the Tabletop into PC format and adhering to the strategy/tactical gameply side of things as closely as any MW game to date.  It is not going to be like MW4 with jumping madcats, etc.

 

It also isnt going to be some lame wanna-be-mech-FPS that is using Robot Skins, ala Hawken.  Anyone who thinks Hawken is a better game is obviously on their 7th installment of Call of Duty and loves that fast FPS style gameplay.

 

This is not that game.

The mechs move great.  I think they move eactly as they should move.  The lights and mediums, and even some heavies, are not "slow".  They move like a giant mech.  Yes the controls are a bit funny, at first, but play 10 matches or so and youll easily get the hang of it.  In fact now that Im better at it myself I think it is BETTER the way it is set up.

 

A lot of winning a match is playing your ROLES properly and having cohesive teamwork.  Funny that.  Again, this isnt some CoD matchup you can waltz in and run and gun and do your own thing and come out the winner.  

Your mech takes damage every fight it is in.  You cannot single handedly destroy every enemy mech.

 

The game is fabulous.  Great gameplay, great graphics, the mechs are amazingly well constructed.  Weapons are as "realistic" as any Sci Fi game could possibly be.  There are tons of options like 12v12 and community warefare which havnt been released yet.

FOR THOSE COMPLAINING ABOUT PAY TO WIN:

It isnt.  So just stop.

YES, it will take you longer to rack up Cbills to buy yourself new mechs and equipment than someone using real cash.  BUT the fact is it wont take you that long to get the Cbills you need by just playing the game.  Ive bought 3 mechs within my first 50 matches or so.  

Everyone has access to the same equipment, real cash buyers do not magically have access to a secret arsenal.

And, as many people have pointed out..... If Joe Bob has played 5 matches and buys $50 worth of cash, buys an Atlas, then goes and plays witht hat Atlas after 5 matches..... Joe Bob is going to get thrashed.  The game is very much about skill.  You cant buy that.

  Cavadus

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10/10/12 1:56:12 PM#59

I've been in the beta for four or five months at this point.  I have been a Battletech fan for multiple decades.  I have led highly successful guilds in Mw3, Mw3:PM, Mw4, Mw4:M, and both MCs.  My guild back then, the Davion Heavy Guards, was in a ton of various leagues from simple deathmatch ladders to NBT.

That being said, I have never been so underwhelmed by a MW/BT title.

It's 2012.  We all saw the amazing MW: 3015 trailer a few years.  UAVs popping out of the Warhammer, et cetera.

I was really expecting an updated game with fresh mechanics.  I was completely wrong.

MWO is a very direct derivative of the TT ruleset.  It's very constricting, the balance is a mess, assaults rule the roost, and they axed the entire territorial warfare aspect and much of the pilot skill progression.

This game offers nothing new.  There is no evolution here.  I wouldn't even consider MWO an iteration, merely a regurgitation.

I was expecting some forms of innovation.  I wanted to see truly localized damage instead of the traditional 11 or 12 sections.  I was hoping that shooting an Atlas in the crotch wouldn't be the same as shooting it in the chest.

I was expect some realistic weapons spread.

I was expecting an awesome electronic warfare aspect.

I was expecting autocannons to finally make a modicum of sense.

MWO offers none of these things.  I was very disappointed with MWO.

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  ScribZ

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10/10/12 7:22:09 PM#60
SOOO your saying MWO is a computer version of the table top Battletech, as close as it could be....GOOD! I am getting so tired of all this 'innovation' crap people spit out all the time. Why can't someone just build us a good computer version of what we all used to play and love back then? Why does it always have to be innovative, new, different? Really, I played several of the Mechwarrior games, played the Mechwarrior rule set in TT too, and neither of them grabbed me like the original Battletech TT ruleset did. If MWO is true to the statements on here, that it does in fact try and adhere to the TT ruleset for Battletech then I say they got a hit, dont mess it up.
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