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Originally posted by Eletheryl i have 305 hrs logged into the game, a lvl 80 and a lvl 45 character-although botting is a problem it is not as widespread as people make it seem (but they are still there, no doubt about it-i've seen them personally). The number of real players utterly and drastically outnumber the bots that you see. WvW always still have queues, there are always zergs of people at DE's, people running dungeons all day long, healthy populations of real people in all maps and not just high lvl areas, and map chats very active. i will not lie to you, i do see bots every now and then and when i do i RAGE but to be completely honest i have not encountered them as much as i used to about two weeks ago and i play in both low and high lvl areas. its actually very random when you see them- sometimes you dont see them for days and then sometimes you see a lot of them in certain maps. maybe theyre just concentrated mostly in kessex hills and certain areas of orr?
anyway, its really not fair bringing up the bot issue since arenanet is clearly doing all they can to fix exploits, bots and things as soon as they can. nowadays i rarely see anyone spamming lion's arch like i used to several weeks ago. |
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9/30/12 11:08:35 PM#42
Originally posted by Darkmoth botting is an issue in all MMOs obviously more in some than others.. but if it was the game breaking widespread issue you are making it out to be I'd figure someone in game, one of my guildmates, anyone I have run into so far would of mentioned or talked aboujt it.. again obviously botting is going on but i have yet to see it as a major issue that is effecting peoples gameplay. I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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9/30/12 11:49:33 PM#43
Here's the thing though: It is widespread, and potentially game-breaking. gessekai332 is absolutely right when he says that the number of real players dwarf bots. Percentage-wise, they seem to be a minor nuisance. But the fact that they can be found in clumps of up to 20 means that they are operating with relative impunity - at least for now. The danger in that is that botting, if not stamped out quickly and harshly, can be seen as an easy way to money and XP. It's a moral hazard issue. That is a significant hole in a WvWvW game, for obvious reasons. DAOC's radar hacks, in comparison, where much milder - but they still warped the game until they were fixed. EQ1's Macroquest was another case where a compromised client changed the game significantly (radar hacks again, you could tell which mobs were "up" from across the world). Depending on how these bots are doing mob detection, they may already have some sort of radar. |
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10/01/12 9:29:00 AM#44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFfJ6usuYkY&feature=plcp That was recorded on the first week of launch, and a month later, that spot is still infested with bots. I've reported bots named "Mdfeww" and "xirca" over and over and over, and a week or two later, they're STILL there!?
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10/01/12 9:30:41 AM#45
Originally posted by gessekai332 It not real, is pretty much all the bots around the game, like i said before, bots dont sleep. if you log in one of those servers, you´ll find that they are not full of players. |
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10/01/12 9:33:28 AM#46
Originally posted by Aerowyn I've only seen on "cool kid" state that. What the smart kids are saying is that the sever staus in GW2 has nothing to do with load, but idicates how many accounts are bound to that server.
I'm still looking for something official like, showing or stating this. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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10/01/12 9:34:00 AM#47
Originally posted by Aerowyn Whoa whoa whoa. We all know 92.678% of GW2 players are Chinese gold farming zerg bots. Stop lying about this "half are bots" nonsense - we all know it's a lot higher! In fact, I woke up yesterday and all of a sudden BAM I'm in China playing at an internet cafe using teleport hacks to farm gold. That sure was an interesting phone call to explain to my girlfriend where I was. ;) /grin MMO History: |
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10/01/12 9:35:16 AM#48
Originally posted by bcbully That's smart? If that were the case no server would ever be full - as Anet would never let a server be "full" of potential accounts bound to it. I'm sorry, but that is the most ridiculous theory I have ever heard. MMO History: |
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10/01/12 9:37:25 AM#49
Originally posted by Aerowyn There is a thread in this forum talking about there are so many that they can't tag a mobs during events because the bots are instanuking them. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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10/01/12 9:39:43 AM#50
Originally posted by bcbully I found a couple of bots farming an event in Kessex Hills, so I reported them all. Next day when I came back, they were all gone. Only time I have ever seen botting. MMO History: |
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10/01/12 9:39:52 AM#51
Originally posted by bcbully I just don't know if Jade Quarry is not that bad or something, because I have only run into bots twice in all of my play experience.....
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10/01/12 9:54:23 AM#52
Originally posted by Aerowyn Wait until you hit Orr, and then please come back and tell me the bots are not a problem for anyone.
Or come on over to Tarnished Coast or Fort Aspenwood server, then head to Orr, and just head over to the Plix DE chain event, or the 2 DEs in the waypoints under that. Stand around and watch them, then when the DE is over, watch the ranger/guardian bots magically disappear only to reappear across the river at the broken DE event with infinite mob spawns. Hopefully by the time u guys are in the zones, Anet wouldve swung the banhammer.
Back on topic: WvW queues are still long, Im having fun in gw2. I don't get all this doom&gloom. I only wish the guesting feature was available as promised. I would like to play with my friends on diff servers since it is difficult to transfer over when there server is almost always full.
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10/01/12 10:01:55 AM#53
Originally posted by Nevulus I like that analogy! +1 I too hope by the time I hit 80 Anet has swung the banhammer hard and patched whatever code is allowing such botting and/or exploits to occur. Report every time you see them. Enforcement starts with us!
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10/01/12 10:04:51 AM#54
Originally posted by Kuppa I hear you kuppa a couple few weeks ago I saw a couple, but nothing like what is being shown now. I actually logged in the other night to go look at the level 70+ zones where I heard it was the worst. I died on my swim (yes swim) to orr with no waypoints found on the way... That was the end of my journey for eye witness proof... DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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10/01/12 10:09:25 AM#55
Originally posted by NevulusOriginally posted by Aerowyn like I said not only have I not seen one but have yet to see anyone talk or complain about the issue in any zone I have been in.. again obviously they are out there and cause issues my point is they aren't as widespread as people are making them out to be... I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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GeezerGamer
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Who ever said "Familiarity breeds contempt" didn't have an internet connection. |
10/01/12 10:22:57 AM#56
Has anyone considered the possibility that servers being listed as full has absolutely nothing to do with actual populations and has everything to do with relative populations? Maybe ANET wants to balance out PVP queues and so they are keeping servers such as JQ closed until other servers like Davona's Rest are equalized in stable populations. Anyway, I seriously doubt Botting is the cause of the OP's issue and unless that really is the cause, Thread is wildly off topic. If the conversation turned "Tit-for-Tat", and I've stopped posting, Consider it your win. |
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10/01/12 10:39:21 AM#57
Originally posted by bcbully I was going through your post history trying to refresh on what you've said about GW2 1-2 weeks ago, I think I remember you saying you were at end-game and that it was very bland, and lacks a "what do I do now" type feeling. (not exact words, but should cover it) But with 20+ pages of posting 95% on why GW2 is so bad, and why it's failing, I couldn't manage to find what I was looking for. But I find it odd that you've reached that end-game yet don't have any WP's in Orr or Straights of Devastation. (or really any high-level zone) The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject. |
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10/01/12 10:41:20 AM#58
Originally posted by GeezerGamer That would be interesting, but at this point, any theory on what ANets server listings mean is just that, a theory. I think they DO need to do something, all the solo's/small man guilds are going to want to transfer up the ladder to a "winning" team. Honestly blocking them off would be a good idea (IMO ofcourse). The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject. |
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10/01/12 10:42:00 AM#59
Originally posted by Aerowyn
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10/01/12 10:45:03 AM#60
Originally posted by bcbully I have proof, a friend of mine and I were trying to get another friend online on our server, he hit the same wall, so we both logged and he was instantly able to log in and create a toon. We logged back in to be placed in overflow. :) There yeah go! |
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