Originally posted by Kilawua
So bottom-line, I should wait for a computer with Trinity? Or if that turns out to be too expensive, can someone point me to a computer that would be the next best? Sorry, for dragging this on. :/

If Trinity is out of your budget, then the only thing that won't be out of your budget is a Llano system running integrated graphics.  And possibly a cut down version, at that.

Well, excluding things that are obviously inappropriate for gaming, that is.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Fusion_APU_Configurator/

You'd want upgrades to an A8-3870K, 8 GB of 1866 MHz memory, a Corsair CX430 V2, and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

You could save a little bit of money by going with a cheaper case and the stock cooler.  If you can wait a few months on rebates, then grabbing one of the SSDs that is free after rebate would be really nice, too.

Or if you can wait two days, then you make it an A10-5800K instead, and get maybe an extra 30% performance (on both the CPU and GPU sides) for an extra $40 or so.

The next step up after that would be to add another $80-$100 or so to get an Athlon X4 750K and a Radeon HD 7770, which will better than double your graphics performance as compared to Trinity integrated graphics.

I built a system around the A6-3670K for HTPC purposes but it is used for some gaming too.  It is an impressive little chip for the deal i got for it. I think with combo and promotion it cost me $40 at the time. It can handle D3 on highest settings on an HD 1920x1080 tv. It'll also handle WoW in medium with some high setting tweaks pretty flawlessly. 

Though finding a desktop pre built with llano at a reasonable price is unlikely. Just build one yourself it is very very simple. If you have any patience you can complete a system for about 300-400 bucks.

Also, for some inscrutable reason, it's a lot cheaper if you grab exactly the same hardware through this configurator instead.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Ultra_7000_Elite

Originally posted by Kilawua
I'll see what I can do. :P Thanks a lot for the links Quizzical, I guess Cyber Power is better than IBuyPower?

iBuyPower's configurators just forward me back to their main page, and I don't want to fuss with a broken web page, so I don't link to them.

But seriously, you should just wait for two days.  Also, link your exact build before you place the order, so that you don't configure things wrong.

It sucks for games. Who would of guessed....

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/amds-a10-5800k-and-a8-5600k-trinity-apus-reviewed/16/

"The A10-5800K just matches the gaming performance of the Core i5-655K, a two-generations-old dual-core Intel part—and it does so in nearly twice the power envelope of the much faster Core i3-3225. If you plan to plug a discrete graphics card into your system, you'd do well to go with a recent Intel CPU instead."

Originally posted by XV999

It sucks for games. Who would of guessed....

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/amds-a10-5800k-and-a8-5600k-trinity-apus-reviewed/16/

 

"The A10-5800K just matches the gaming performance of the Core i5-655K, a two-generations-old dual-core Intel part—and it does so in nearly twice the power envelope of the much faster Core i3-3225. If you plan to plug a discrete graphics card into your system, you'd do well to go with a recent Intel CPU instead."

A $122 part matches the performance of a $220 part while letting you buy a cheaper motherboard, and also including good integrated graphics rather than forcing you to buy a discrete card.  And if you're going to get a discrete card anyway, then you can get an $81 part that skips the integrated graphics and will trivially overclock to the same clock speeds as the $122 part.  Sounds like a good deal to me.

Trinity isn't for high end gaming systems.  I could have told you that months ago and could have guessed it a year ago.  But it's unbeatable today if you're on a tight budget.