The Ads that use mmorpg as  the base url do  get seen by me.  Your auto i use  adblocker scipt is broken.   The third party ads do get blocked  those are the annoying ads and need to be blocked.  Use the mmorpg.com to serve up third party images but not flash your prolems is fixed easy easy heeh

I may have considered whitelisting your site before your founder / CEO accused myself and many others of being thieves and / or pirates for using an adblocker, even though it's generally considered a part of safe browsing practices to do so. Now? Adblock stays on, and I've blocked your stupid red banner as well.

Here's a tip: If you wish compliance from people, don't insult them. Thank you, and have a good day.

BTW I love how the GIANT BRIGHT RED INCREDIBLY INTRUSIVE BANNER states that MMORPG.com doesn't believe in intrusive ads... hypocrite much?

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by Worstluck
I realize you guys make money from ads, however, I would not be clicking on said ads regardless so I block them for safety and just to make the page readable.  Now will I permanently have a big red bar accross the top of the page?

It does not matter if you click the ads.  We sell ads based on impressions, not clicks/results.  So even if you don't click the ads you hurt our entire site by running a blocker.  Running adblock on a site that supports itself with advertisements is no different than downloading pirated movies, music or video games.  You are in a sense stealing our content that we work hard to create and pay to an entire team to create.

I don't like seeing advertisements and I don't like seeing the big read bar so it's a lose/lose for me.

And BTW if you really feel that those of us using adblock are stealing content... then you should probably ban us IMHO. Just sayin.

I read some of this thread when it started and I understand both sides views. I currently allow ads on this site and as long as I don't have a ton of annoying flashing adds when I am reading the forums I am ok with it.

But I just wanted to reply and say the Rift add for the xpac that says PreOrder now and save a panda is great.

When I heard of the new WoW xpac I could already hear the Jack Black commercials for it. Sorry Mr. T you have been retired for Kung Fu Panda.

Its funny, because when i saw the big OH MY GOD red banner on the top, and saw this topic, i decided to first read what the staff had to say, before i decide to do anything. So as i was reading about how im a pirate, from a guy who doesnt even know me or know my reasons to use adblock, i said to myself - i've been reading this site for a couple of years now, why the hell not just white list it ? 

So i did. 

And God oh God the flashing lightnings from this Smite add, just burned my eyes, i couldnt stay focused to read even one sentence, let alone write a normal resposne. 

So, adblock stays on, and i also blocked that red abomination on top of your "free" site :) As many have stated, there are much better ways to handle this situation.

And whoever doesnt like the way this "story" is progressing, there is plenty of fish in the sea. This site isnt the only one, nor the best one. Cheers :)

anyone that wish to block the annoying red bar on top in firefox

get adblock plus and in filters add

www.mmorpg.com##DIV[class="abiabnotice"]

no more annoying red bar

I disabled my ad blocker long enough to see the flashy panda ad which was distracting me from the rest of the page.  I considered it to be intrusive and distracting to my site experience.  

I understand that site revenue comes from ads and that by not viewing them, you are not getting as much money.  This does not mean you should try harder to get people to look at ads, though.  People are tired of being bombarded with advertisements, which is why ad blockers were invented in the first place.  It isn't a matter of us "stealing" your content.  It is a matter of you finding a different source of revenue, or backing down on the ads to a level that most people will tolerate.  If that means you have to provide fewer services, then figure out what keeps people coming to this site so you can cut the services you can't afford.

There are plenty of competing web sites which offer similar services.  I'm willing to use one of those if you go out of business or can't find a decent balance of ads versus content.  So, don't blame your customers.  Blame your business model.

By the way, I have clicked on the background ads on occasion.  Those are not intrusive and not animated, yet I have checked them out because they advertised MMOs I was curious about.  Also, I stopped using IGN because of their ad spam years ago.

Originally posted by Christooo
Nevermind 

The domain would be www.mmorpg.com and http://www.mmorpg.com and you may want to add https://www.mmorpg.com

Hope that helps you.

Is there a way to check if the user can see full adverts and if he is blocking some or all ads?

If there is, then you could create a nominal fee to use the site without ads for those blocking, and you could continue to give access to those who have not used any kind of ad blocking software.

:)

I dont have any probelm with banner or ads on a site I feel is worth to support. Thats why I put mmorpg.com on my whitelist. A pointless effort considering I will never click them, but... well.

But what I immidiately do is blacklist any animated ads, popup ads or ads with sound. Even if I where interested in any of the advertised products I rather google it up again instead of clicking these ads just to avoid supporting them.

However animated intermediate ads are ok. Like when you click the page then a ad page appears or includes an overlay and i have to click a clearly visible button to continue forwad. But then what is pissing me off is when the button is not visible or fake buttons leading to ads are set up everywhere....

But my gratitude for filtering these ads to remain online gaming related.

Originally posted by YouNube

Its funny, because when i saw the big OH MY GOD red banner on the top, and saw this topic, i decided to first read what the staff had to say, before i decide to do anything. So as i was reading about how im a pirate, from a guy who doesnt even know me or know my reasons to use adblock, i said to myself - i've been reading this site for a couple of years now, why the hell not just white list it ? 

Ah yo ho ho,  a pirate's life for we!

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by RocSek

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by Worstluck
I realize you guys make money from ads, however, I would not be clicking on said ads regardless so I block them for safety and just to make the page readable.  Now will I permanently have a big red bar accross the top of the page?

It does not matter if you click the ads.  We sell ads based on impressions, not clicks/results.  So even if you don't click the ads you hurt our entire site by running a blocker.  Running adblock on a site that supports itself with advertisements is no different than downloading pirated movies, music or video games.  You are in a sense stealing our content that we work hard to create and pay to an entire team to create.

This is flat out wrong. If you want to "Stop people from stealing your content" then make all the infomation password protected, and charge people to access it. But to say we are stealing your content because we choose to block ads is ridiculous. And who ever typed this behind the anonymous "Admin" account should be fired.

The Admin account is not anonymous.  I am Craig McGregor the President/CEO of the company and the co-owner and founder of the site.  

The trend in AdBlock is concerning for me, not just on our site here, but on the Internet as a whole.  It is a growing problem and I feel it will eventually lead to the end of the "free Internet" that we all know and love.  If sites cannot stay afloat from advertising sales they have few options left: a) start charging for access to content b) start doing really unethical tihngs like Advertorial content c) syndicate into large networks with pay access like Cable TV "packages".  Personally I like the advertising model both as a site operator and as a user of hundreds of free websites.

 I will explain the difference to you Craig.  One is illegal.. as in against the law.   The other is not.  Now, if you changed your TOS to state the folks must accept ads well that is 100% your perogative as the site owner.  Your first post however,  IMHO frankly comes across as ignorant and condecending. 

I understand the concept that such programs are (in your eyes) costing you money, and while no expert I'd probably have to agree with that.   Your delivery however needs a lot of work.  My immediate reaction to Mike B's post was "no big deal".  My immediate reaction to yours was well... let's just say it was very different.

This is coming from someone who never even considered installing any ad-blocking software and was only slightly aware that such programs even existed...   and someone who very much your prefer you stay a free, ad-supported site as I simply would not pay to subscribe.  But if you want to get a positive response in the future I really think you need to work on your messaging.