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9/26/12 3:20:02 PM#121
Originally posted by adam_nox 

I was honestly a little intimidated.  I look back at those feelings now and laugh.  Having come from DC Universe, I can tell you that game's movement and attacks are both more varied and involve ten times as much skill as that of GW2.  I know because I never mastered it in DCUO, but I was good enough that I could see how others were able to counter all my common block breaking and stunlock tricks.  Truly impressive gameplay there, but too high level for a casual non-tekkenish player like myself. 

I dont get how you can say this and claim swtor was pretty good.

I could agree with this if you thought all other mmorpg outside dcuo sucked but you dont.

  Rokurgepta

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9/26/12 3:21:44 PM#122
Originally posted by Nibs
Originally posted by adam_nox

I didn't test much without trait points allocated, but with 20 into pet attributes...I was hoping to have a powerful sniper, but instead I was a beastmaster. 

 

Perhaps putting points into the 2 archery based traits you have gotten somewhere.

I have all my points in them and whilst my pet sucks, my own damage is fantastic.

 It seems to me the OP did not do much in game(seems to be a common thing he mentions) but has had a negative opinion in any post I have seen by him. Its a well worded review and the game does not suit him and thats fine, but he has never said anything good about the game that I have seen.

 

I know he hates hearing he is playing it wrong, but if you put 20 trait points into beastmastery and expect to have a strong sniper, YOU ARE PLAYING IT WRONG.

 

Nibs on the otherhand understand trait points and build synergy. That is why nibs has a ranger that does good bow damage, he built it right.

  grimal

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9/26/12 3:23:45 PM#123
Originally posted by Onomic
Originally posted by adam_nox 

I was honestly a little intimidated.  I look back at those feelings now and laugh.  Having come from DC Universe, I can tell you that game's movement and attacks are both more varied and involve ten times as much skill as that of GW2.  I know because I never mastered it in DCUO, but I was good enough that I could see how others were able to counter all my common block breaking and stunlock tricks.  Truly impressive gameplay there, but too high level for a casual non-tekkenish player like myself. 

I dont get how you can say this and claim swtor was pretty good.

I could agree with this if you thought all other mmorpg outside dcuo sucked but you dont.

He has a different opinion than yours.  It's really not that difficult to understand.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

9/26/12 3:23:49 PM#124
Lol....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  grimal

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9/26/12 3:26:11 PM#125
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

 


Originally posted by Nightgroper

Originally posted by GeezerGamer  

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   
Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 
  I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.
Wait, what? When did I say for him to "move on". I'm more of looking at typical forum etiquette, since I believe one of the rules for most forums, unless it has changed is: Use the damn search function before postting any new threads.

 

That's my main complaint here. I get it. I really do. Making a new thread causes a greater impact. I'm not saying his opinion is unimportant, well to me it is because I don't know the OP personally so his opinion is worthless to me.

 


 

I apologize, I was responding to the post between. In summed up the thoughts based on prior posts in this thread. I realize it looks like I singled you out and I didn't mean to. For that, I'm sorry.

So that reply was aimed at me?  I was pointing out the double standards here.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Rokurgepta

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9/26/12 3:37:37 PM#126
Originally posted by mmoguy43
Atleast someone is willing to be bold and honestly point out GW2 failings. It is a valueble review compared to the glowingly positive professional fanboy reviewers.

 Value is subjective. While I would find no value in a review that gave the game all 10s. I also find no value in a review that is full of bad information and lack of time spent. It is hard to take a review seriously that says the reviewer spent little time on X or Y in game and then reviews it poorly when his choices were wrong. Such as putting 20 trait points in beastmastery and expecting a ranger sniper build to appear. If you take no time to learn the game your review will show that and this one does.

 

Plus posters history on these forums shows this review was predictable from beta days.

  Kuppa

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The problem with censorship is ********

9/26/12 3:48:46 PM#127
Originally posted by Vorthanion
All I can say is that I'm having much more fun in Planetside 2 than Guild Wars 2, so much so that I rarely if ever even log into GW2, except when the PS2 servers are down for updates.  Go figure, considering I'm not a big fan of action combat, heh.

Wait till the newness wears off. BTW there have been a lot of good fps games out. Sure they don't have the scale of PS2 but they are still pretty fun, I suggest you try them


  GeezerGamer

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Remember the blisters you'd get in the palm of your hand from the corner of that joystick?

9/26/12 3:50:55 PM#128


Originally posted by Tardcore

Originally posted by GeezerGamer  

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   
Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 
  I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.
Sorry to say you're pissing in the wind my friends. No amount of common sense will stem the tide of overbearing arrogance in those who feel they have to come in here and sling insults any time they feel someone is "messin with their toot toot", which is kind of amusing as they seem not to understand that its this very vitriolic behavior that keeps so many of these negetive threads popping up as some people find it amusing to watch them go into their foaming at the mouth spasms.

Don't agree with this guys review? Fine. Then go write your fucking own.

 

Oh and MACBETH!!!!


It's too bad really. Had some of the legitimate issues that were questioned way back when, been allowed to be openly discussed over the past year, How much of this backlash would have been avoided? GW2 still would have sold over 2M boxes. The game would still be as enjoyable to those who play it.

Recently started playing SWTOR. I am posting updates to my experience in this thread:
SWTOR Experience

  Fadedbomb

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9/26/12 3:51:35 PM#129
Originally posted by Piiritus

Quite agree with OP. I honestly expected more from this game. Wasn't following it much but read about it quite a lot before release. Tbh for me personally the only outstanding feature of GW2 is no sub. Probably playing it wrong (tm).

Edit: Don't agree with PvE getting so high rating. In my opinion it's more like 3-4. I play only Western MMOs so I really cannot bring up any comparisons with Korean generic fantasy garbage.

 

Same, and I think the largest issue people have is the horribly outlandish claims being made that not only are blatant lies, but are simply untrue.

 

 

Claim: "Gear doesn't matter in WvW!"

Reality: a Level 80 fully geared toon will absolutely DECIMATE a level 43 brought up to 80 with level 40ish gear. Definition of gear-based game meets fact.

 

Claim: "End-Game starts from level 1!"

Reality: End-Game doesn't happen until level 80 when you're grinding Karma for gear, and then moving on to running the same dungeons over & over, and the occasional WvW or sPvP.

 

Claim: "Trinity is gone, yay!"

Reality: Trinity moved from Tank, Dps, Heals to Dps, Control, Support

 

 

I could go on, having a level 80 and three toons around their mid 40s, but i'd just keep depressing myself that I actually spent $60 on this.

 

The only positive aspect is that I can come back in a couple months for FREE to see if they actually tried to fix anything. So far they're not interested in fixing broken classes, or adding a crap ton of content. They're fixing bugs that should have been fixed pre-launch :(!

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  GeezerGamer

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Remember the blisters you'd get in the palm of your hand from the corner of that joystick?

9/26/12 3:53:17 PM#130


Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by GeezerGamer  

Originally posted by Nightgroper

Originally posted by GeezerGamer  

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   
Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 
  I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.
Wait, what? When did I say for him to "move on". I'm more of looking at typical forum etiquette, since I believe one of the rules for most forums, unless it has changed is: Use the damn search function before postting any new threads.   That's my main complaint here. I get it. I really do. Making a new thread causes a greater impact. I'm not saying his opinion is unimportant, well to me it is because I don't know the OP personally so his opinion is worthless to me.  
  I apologize, I was responding to the post between. In summed up the thoughts based on prior posts in this thread. I realize it looks like I singled you out and I didn't mean to. For that, I'm sorry.
So that reply was aimed at me?  I was pointing out the double standards here.

I was agreeing with you, but you and I were responding to different posts in the thread, I was recalling one post. But your post kinds summed up my thoughts but in my mind I was applying it to a different post. Really, it was just a bad move n my part. Don't sweat it.

Recently started playing SWTOR. I am posting updates to my experience in this thread:
SWTOR Experience

  Bjelar

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9/26/12 3:54:45 PM#131
Originally posted by SaintPhilip
 [mod edit]

 

 

Well said. Please, mods, could you send me a PM directing me to the things I need to say in order  to be [mod edit]?

 

I am sure I missed it when signing up, and I don't know where to find the rules.

  Torvaldr

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9/26/12 4:02:57 PM#132
Originally posted by adam_nox

Update:  Community: 2

 

Just look at how quickly and without provocation the replies become personal.  I'm a tool, I'm playing it wrong, etc.  Good stuff.  Also forgot to note how unsociable the game is, though there's so many topics about this in this forum and in the General one, that it pretty much goes without saying.

 

When you have to resort to the "victim card" and stoop to hurling insults back then you have zero credibility to me.  In another twist of irony you post an inflammatory topic with a snarky and condescending tone and then expect people to eat shit and thank you for it and then are indignant when they don't.

You opinions are fine with me but I disagree with them.  I find your agenda laden analysis boring and anything but the truth.  I find the game fun and am continuing to enjoy it.  I find all hype to be an idiotic trainwreck, not just this hype or TOR hype.  Apply that logic to the next set of game rolling down the hype highway.

  slowpoke68

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9/26/12 4:03:16 PM#133

This is one of the better written and reasoned reviews I have seen on this site.  

From what I have seen, it is not surprising so many people have torn into the OP for his opinions.

I said before and I will say it again, I have never seen worse fan boys than those of GW2. 

So OP don't take their criticism to heart. 

I want to play this game, but I tried the BWE's and cancelled my preorder.  It is heartening to see a review like this every so often just to know I am not crazy.

To me, GW2 just felt like a glorified console game.  A watered-down, dumbed-down MMO.   

To the "well its so popular, you must be wrong" crowd, Michael Bolton sold millions of records and he still sucks.  Diablo 3, which is an utter turd and a horrible step in the wrong direction for gaming sold millions.  Millions of people loving something doesn't make it great, it doesn't even make it good.

Also, since when are people barred from giving their opinions on this site?  (other than, OMG GW2 is so awesome, it the best evar!1!)

I'm sure I will give this game another go, but again, rabid fan boys, you are this game's worst enemy. 

  StanlyStanko

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9/26/12 4:07:42 PM#134

-TL;DR-

Looks pretty but it's just another themepark. BREAKING NEWS!

  Bjelar

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9/26/12 4:10:05 PM#135

This thread seems to be quieting down.

The rewiew is good, fanbois are bad, and hatrers are worse.

 

Do we all agree and hold hands now?

  rygard49

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9/26/12 4:34:36 PM#136

Why is the standard response, in regard to most dissenting opinions, for many GW2 fans to ask, "Why are you even writing this? If you don't like the game don't play it."?

The answer is investment. He bought the game. He paid physical money to play the game. Not only that, he upgraded his system specifically for this title. He took his personal time and monetary resources and devoted a portion of each to this game. That alone entitles him to post his review, whether good or ill.

You don't have to love his opinion. You don't have to even acknowledge it. But to come and tell him that he's wrong to post it is unfair. And those of you wearing their tinfoil hats, accusing him of being paid to specifically be negative about the game are paranoid.

  Wakygreek

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Reason is a necessity

9/26/12 4:44:03 PM#137
Originally posted by Bjelar

This thread seems to be quieting down.

The rewiew is good, fanbois are bad, and hatrers are worse.

 

Do we all agree and hold hands now?

I like active threads, it means lots of reading for me! But yes the review was neither good or bad, it just needed to be worded better. But in other news, last I checked we are all consumers and should not be arguing amongst ourselves. We can leave that to the politicians, they do enough of that for everyone I assure you.

  bcbully

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9/26/12 4:59:19 PM#138

Necro = Axe, Dagger, Septer, horn, staff (2 hands), talisman

 

Axe main hand - 3 abilities FOREVER

Septer main hand - 3 abilities FOREVER

Horn off hand - 2 abilities FOREVER

Talisman off hand - 2 abilities FOREVER

Dagger either hand - 5 abilities if in both hands

Staff both hands - 5 abilities.

  grimal

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9/26/12 5:12:15 PM#139
Originally posted by GeezerGamer


I was agreeing with you, but you and I were responding to different posts in the thread, I was recalling one post. But your post kinds summed up my thoughts but in my mind I was applying it to a different post. Really, it was just a bad move n my part. Don't sweat it.

 

Ok. No sweat here.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

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9/26/12 6:01:06 PM#140

The sad thing about this all isnt the fact that yet again we have another overhyped mmorpg uraveling...but that the next AAA themepark will follow the same exact path as this game and the many over hyped mmorpgs that predate it.  

People never learn.

 

If the game is overhyped, just remember...it probably NEEDS to be overhyped.  Thats never a good thing.

 

People are suckers for feeing popular and joining the cool crowd though...these overhyped games thrive on that emotion.

 

 

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