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  Juaks

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Joined: 10/09/04
Posts: 275

9/26/12 1:12:32 PM#41

Seems to me you are very spoiled by simplistic/easiest games. You are complaining about the game being too difficult, dieing a lot, slow leveling and things too expensive? common! . The customisation is a thing I love about the game. With all the skills, traits and gear the playstile variation and builds are endless.

I for once like the fact that GW2 it's not a walk in the park. Loving a challenge in those explorable dungeons.

You also seem a bit close minded to enjoy a different style of play.

 

Edit. About crafting not giving enough xp. FYI the first guy geting level cap was a crafter. When you craft you can gain a fair amount of xp. Sorry to say it but you were doing it wrong.

  dariuszp

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Posts: 187

9/26/12 1:12:46 PM#42
Fail review is fail
  KingGator

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9/26/12 1:13:05 PM#43
Originally posted by Reskaillev
Originally posted by adam_nox

Update:  Community: 2

 

Just look at how quickly and without provocation the replies become personal.  I'm a tool, I'm playing it wrong, etc.  Good stuff.  Also forgot to note how unsociable the game is, though there's so many topics about this in this forum and in the General one, that it pretty much goes without saying.

Actually you have given enough provocation already in your opening post and the title of this thread. It's a given that people are gonna argue if you state your opinion as fact. So don't play innocent and blame the 'bad' community for their 'bad' responses. 

The "playing it wrong" argument is actually a valid one as Gw2 should'nt be played with the same mindset as one takes in a more traditional MMO (like Wow).  It's a given that while playing the game in a more exploration driven fashion that you get the most out of it. Most people giving this argument don't blame you, but just want you to enjoy the game.

I'm not gonna say anything about your second point but I guess you are in the following category of players:

"I don't talk to my the people on my friendslist unless I need them to help me with something I really can't finish. And even then I'll still try to finish it and only ask you when I really don't have any choice. I never adventure with another person because it bothers me to have someone around me at all time"

This mentality is offcourse wrong as friends are for talking and have fun with and not for doing your chores

But I hope you find your new online home elsewhere than... 

And that is what's wrong with gw2 fanboy right there, frankly it is what's wrong with the world today. Contrary opinions cause so much angst that it must be silenced by reporting(scary if you think about it) or in the real world with violence and rioting.

 

I am sad for our species.

  Bjelar

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Joined: 4/07/12
Posts: 383

9/26/12 1:14:36 PM#44
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Community: on forums: strongly agree... in game: strongly disagree.

 

Please. I played for therteen hours yesterday, and when I logged off the guy that said something 13 hours ago still showed up in my /map chat.

 

Maybe I misinterpet you and you felt "2" was too high.

  alexmino

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Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 134

9/26/12 1:15:26 PM#45

Still think all you guys who hate the game played it wrong.

I went in with zero excitement, bought it two weeks after launch at walmart, installed it 2 days later, played it for 15 minutes, and haven't  touched it since.

While you are all hating the game, i will not even begun to play!

  NightBandit

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 754

Make friends not money, then wealth will follow.

9/26/12 1:16:03 PM#46
Originally posted by adam_nox

Update:  Community: 2

Just look at how quickly and without provocation the replies become personal.  I'm a tool, I'm playing it wrong, etc.  Good stuff.  Also forgot to note how unsociable the game is, though there's so many topics about this in this forum and in the General one, that it pretty much goes without saying.

 

 I pretty much stopped reading your post once I got to the full stop in your first paragraph, you are doing the same as you say other people are and not doing it with any credibilty at all in my eyes.

So all I would say is move on and stop wasting both your time and mine too, if you expect me to read through a wall of text like that at least be constructive from the off and don't act like you are something special or from atop of a pedistool.

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  Reskaillev

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Joined: 11/29/06
Posts: 160

It's vaporware!

9/26/12 1:17:31 PM#47
Originally posted by KingGator

And that is what's wrong with gw2 fanboy right there, frankly it is what's wrong with the world today. Contrary opinions cause so much angst that it must be silenced by reporting(scary if you think about it) or in the real world with violence and rioting.

 

I am sad for our species.

What angst? I'm just stating my opinion and trying to disprove his opinion by making some points...

(Whether these points are any good can be discussed offcourse)

"Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable

  Wolvards

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Posts: 674

9/26/12 1:17:55 PM#48
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Community: on forums: strongly agree... in game: strongly disagree.

 

Please. I played for therteen hours yesterday, and when I logged off the guy that said something 13 hours ago still showed up in my /map chat.

 

Maybe I misinterpet you and you felt "2" was too high.

damn, therteen hours in one sitting? You must be a champ.

The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.

  grimal

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9/26/12 1:19:49 PM#49
Originally posted by Aerowyn
which is just fine this is surely the sub forum for this.. I'm curious though unless you are getting paid why spend so much time talking about something you dislike? seems more like an agenda and with the title an obvious bait...but either way still fascinating people put so much thought/time into a video game they dislike.. guess it makes them happy? I dunno

Why do people spend countless hours praising this or that game?  To express their opinion.  You of all people should know that.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Xzen

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Joined: 5/01/06
Posts: 2637

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9/26/12 1:20:43 PM#50
Originally posted by Wolvards
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Community: on forums: strongly agree... in game: strongly disagree.

 

Please. I played for therteen hours yesterday, and when I logged off the guy that said something 13 hours ago still showed up in my /map chat.

 

Maybe I misinterpet you and you felt "2" was too high.

damn, therteen hours in one sitting? You must be  champin.

Fixed

  Bjelar

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Joined: 4/07/12
Posts: 383

9/26/12 1:22:26 PM#51
Originally posted by Juaks

Seems to me you are very spoiled by simplistic/easiest games. You are complaining about the game being too difficult, dieing a lot, slow leveling and things too expensive? common! . The customisation is a thing I love about the game. With all the skills, traits and gear the playstile variation and builds are endless.

I for once like the fact that GW2 it's not a walk in the park. Loving a challenge in those explorable dungeons.

You also seem a bit close minded to enjoy a different style of play.

 

 

oh.....COME ON!

 

I like GW2 as well, but you can't possibly argue it is difficult. It's a walk in the themepark, I am an old man and pretty much never die as en elementalist. My guardian alt a monkey on booze could play. Don't say GW2 is challenging. That's missing the point. GW2 is easy entertainment for (almost) free. Be happy. I am. I like GW2.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

9/26/12 1:24:47 PM#52
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Aerowyn
which is just fine this is surely the sub forum for this.. I'm curious though unless you are getting paid why spend so much time talking about something you dislike? seems more like an agenda and with the title an obvious bait...but either way still fascinating people put so much thought/time into a video game they dislike.. guess it makes them happy? I dunno

Why do people spend countless hours praising this or that game?  To express their opinion.  You of all people should know that.

 

but again its something we enjoy.. I wouldn't go on EVE forums and blast the game because I dislike it.. why would I waste the effort?.. just seems odd people get some sort of strange enjoyment continually bashing something.. I dunno guess I'm strange as I like spending my time talking about things I enjoy not dislike

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Sentime

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Joined: 5/10/06
Posts: 277

9/26/12 1:26:10 PM#53
Originally posted by Connmacart

Would say surprising review, but than again you have been shitting on the game for a long time. 

Hard to look at things objectively when you go in with a negative mindset.

 

Proving his very first sentence in the first reply post.  Well played.

  L0C0Man

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Joined: 1/30/09
Posts: 919

9/26/12 1:26:20 PM#54
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Community: on forums: strongly agree... in game: strongly disagree.

 

Please. I played for therteen hours yesterday, and when I logged off the guy that said something 13 hours ago still showed up in my /map chat.

 

Maybe I misinterpet you and you felt "2" was too high.

I guess it's a "your mileage may vary" thing. I can't say I've played 13 straight hours of GW2 (I would have several years ago maybe, these days married, full time job, a toddler and soon going back to college again can't really do it anymore), but at least in my server (Yak's Bend, late at night timeslot) I've never seen /map chat inactive, at the very least I see people announcing when an event is up, but most of the times there are lots of conversation there as well. I guess it depends on the server and the time you play.

What can men do against such reckless hate?

  Juaks

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Joined: 10/09/04
Posts: 275

9/26/12 1:26:34 PM#55
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by Juaks

Seems to me you are very spoiled by simplistic/easiest games. You are complaining about the game being too difficult, dieing a lot, slow leveling and things too expensive? common! . The customisation is a thing I love about the game. With all the skills, traits and gear the playstile variation and builds are endless.

I for once like the fact that GW2 it's not a walk in the park. Loving a challenge in those explorable dungeons.

You also seem a bit close minded to enjoy a different style of play.

 

 

oh.....COME ON!

 

I like GW2 as well, but you can't possibly argue it is difficult. It's a walk in the themepark, I am an old man and pretty much never die as en elementalist. My guardian alt a monkey on booze could play. Don't say GW2 is challenging. That's missing the point. GW2 is easy entertainment for (almost) free. Be happy. I am. I like GW2.

You are right and I agree being myself and old school gamer, but the OP is QQing about those things. In comparison to "other games" GW2 is a bit more unforgiven and not spoon feeding.

  Nibs

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Posts: 195

9/26/12 1:26:47 PM#56
Originally posted by adam_nox

I didn't test much without trait points allocated, but with 20 into pet attributes...I was hoping to have a powerful sniper, but instead I was a beastmaster. 

 

Perhaps putting points into the 2 archery based traits you have gotten somewhere.

I have all my points in them and whilst my pet sucks, my own damage is fantastic.

  grimal

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9/26/12 1:29:06 PM#57
Originally posted by Aerowyn

 

but again its something we enjoy.. I wouldn't go on EVE forums and blast the game because I dislike it.. why would I waste the effort?.. just seems odd people get some sort of strange enjoyment continually bashing something.. I dunno guess I'm strange as I like spending my time talking about things I enjoy not dislike

I don't know, sometimes people like to get these things off their chest and its a way for them to do it.  It's the same thing with posting a positive review of something.  Just because it's positive, it's still a review. 

I personally don't get how you have posted almost 4k times in the past 6 or 7 months (almost exclusively about GW2), but I don't accuse you of having an agenda.

These are forums for discussion.  He obviously wanted to comment on the game...he's allowed to have his own review, isn't he?

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Bjelar

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Joined: 4/07/12
Posts: 383

9/26/12 1:29:51 PM#58
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Community: on forums: strongly agree... in game: strongly disagree.

 

Please. I played for therteen hours yesterday, and when I logged off the guy that said something 13 hours ago still showed up in my /map chat.

 

Maybe I misinterpet you and you felt "2" was too high.

I guess it's a "your mileage may vary" thing. I can't say I've played 13 straight hours of GW2 (I would have several years ago maybe, these days married, full time job, a toddler and soon going back to college again can't really do it anymore), but at least in my server (Yak's Bend, late at night timeslot) I've never seen /map chat inactive, at the very least I see people announcing when an event is up, but most of the times there are lots of conversation there as well. I guess it depends on the server and the time you play.

 

I wil transfer to Yak's Bend, and not because I am in awe of your job and family ;)

  MindTrigger

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9/26/12 1:32:22 PM#59

I spent 300 bucks upgrading to an i5 to play this game at better than a slideshow.  I'm not just some guy who plopped the game in and played for 5 minutes without anything invested into it.  What irks me the most is how hyped up the game was by people making wild claims that were simply untrue after playing BWEs.  Claims about world vs world, and how awesome combat was seem so out of this world.

I'm not going to bash you, because your opinion is yours, and I agree with you in some areas.  The above quote is odd to me though because no one should be relying on "hype" for their decision making process in the first place.  For starters, hype is completely subjective.  There are hundreds of thousands of people (probably well over a million) still playing this game and they love it.  You didn't.  That's not hype, that's their opinion.

You should have made your own decision based on the total information out there, and even if you wanted to consider hype, you should have factored it in as opinion, not gospel.  Anyone who follows others like uninformed sheep has some issues that need to be worked out.  Maybe that's you and maybe it isn't but you seem to be blaming others for your decision.

As for the game, it's a themepark.  Again, anyone who knows anything about MMO games knew this was going to be basically your standard themepark game, but modernized and with a few mild twists.  As a themepark game, I think it's fantastic.  You can't ask for much more in their PvE.  People who complain about PvE in GW2 don't seem to have any alternative suggestions for gameplay.  They are just complaining because they haven't come to realize they are bored with themeparks.

I agree with WvW.  I think there is a lot of potential there, but for the most part it's a zergfest.  There should be some gameplay mechanics for organized small teams that can help turn the tide when a server is dominating zerg style.  There should be ways and limits for small teams to enter keeps and whatnot so that they can try to turn the tide.  Having everyone focused on a single gate most of the time is a complete waste of potential.

I'm seeing more people use siege engines now, which helps, but there should still be mechanics for small teams to make a difference elsewhere on the map.  In games like Planetside 2, you have the big zerg battles, but you also have small teams going deep behind enemy lines and making a difference.  GW2 doesn't offer much for that level of gameplay.

On crafting, I'm in the same boat as you.  I love crafting, but only when it is interesting, and makes a difference.  Right now there is no real reason to craft.  My main toon hasn't used but a couple things I have crafted because loot gear is too easy to get, or just buy dirt cheap on the market.  Big waste of an otherwise cool themepark crafting system in my opinion, although I prefer deep crafting offered by sandboxes.

(side note:  the word hype is abused far too much on this website).

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  Aerowyn

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9/26/12 1:35:02 PM#60
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Aerowyn

 

but again its something we enjoy.. I wouldn't go on EVE forums and blast the game because I dislike it.. why would I waste the effort?.. just seems odd people get some sort of strange enjoyment continually bashing something.. I dunno guess I'm strange as I like spending my time talking about things I enjoy not dislike

I don't know, sometimes people like to get these things off their chest and its a way for them to do it.  It's the same thing with posting a positive review of something.  Just because it's positive, it's still a review. 

I personally don't get how you have posted almost 4k times in the past 6 or 7 months (almost exclusively about GW2), but I don't accuse you of having an agenda.

These are forums for discussion.  He obviously wanted to comment on the game...he's allowed to have his own review, isn't he?

 

gone over why I have so many posts several times you are welcome to search for it:) I'm asking more out of curiosity as when I dislike a game like torchligh 2 for example I have no desire to bitch and moan about it..I just toss it aside and move to something I enjoy... guess I'm just strange I dunno

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