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  halflife25

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OP  9/26/12 5:36:23 AM#1

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

  moguy2

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Wish I had something positive to say =(

9/26/12 5:40:08 AM#2
It isnt the botters that are ruining it. It is the people that buy the currency from them that is ruining the game. Dont buy it and they have no reason to show up and bot. Viscious cycle huh?
  Requiem1066

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Joined: 8/28/12
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9/26/12 5:41:58 AM#3

Yeah Anet do need to be way more proactive in dealing with bot's than what they have been.

I'm sure there are well known botting locations, shouldn't take much effort for ingame Gm's to check either from reports or off their own back ..... or would it ?

  halflife25

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OP  9/26/12 5:43:20 AM#4
Originally posted by moguy2
It isnt the botters that are ruining it. It is the people that buy the currency from them that is ruining the game. Dont buy it and they have no reason to show up and bot. Viscious cycle huh?

I guess same can be said for those who sell drugs? they are not the one ruining people lives  it is the people who buy the drugs doing it to themselves. Drug dealers are after all just providing a service right?

  bone12

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9/26/12 5:45:11 AM#5
Originally posted by halflife25

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

HAHAH i am laughing so much.. i can't stop Gw2 Black trading Market wasnt offline for 2 weeks so that guy in there lies.. i played 3 days after launch and i could acces it with no problems and i doubt there are any bots in gw2 so far..

 

and if there are they just waste time on making bots.. pretty useless to do in gw2.

  Thane

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9/26/12 5:45:44 AM#6
Originally posted by halflife25

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

aaaah yes. that's sth completely unexpected ... sure.

or, if you ever played another mmo before, you are used to it in the beginning, and wait till they fixed it.

"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  halflife25

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OP  9/26/12 5:47:19 AM#7
Originally posted by bone12
Originally posted by halflife25

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

HAHAH i am laughing so much.. i can't stop Gw2 Black trading Market wasnt offline for 2 weeks so that guy in there lies.. i played 3 days after launch and i could acces it with no problems and i doubt there are any bots in gw2 so far..

 

and if there are they just waste time on making bots.. pretty useless to do in gw2.

The trading post was offline for two weeks with ocassional 2 to 3 hours uptime and then it used to go offline again. So nope guy is not lying. BTC was indeed offline for majority of time for 2 weeks.

 

  Ambros123

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9/26/12 5:47:58 AM#8
I'd have to agree that this is an issue, but it seems like no easy answer.  All these botting are stolen accounts so perm banning doesn't work.  But it is like an epicdemic out there though.  WoW I've seen a fair share of gold sellers but my god in GW2 it seemed like nonstop.  Haven't played much GW2 lately due to school but do seem to notice less gold sellers or maybe just not in the right zones at the right time or just lucky not getting on the mail list.  Figure as time goes on it should tone down to a more acceptable level.
  Pie_Rat

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9/26/12 5:52:44 AM#9
Originally posted by Requiem1066

Yeah Anet do need to be way more proactive in dealing with bot's than what they have been.

What do you suggest they pay the extra GMs with? Your monthly sub? 

What you pay is what you get, B2P = bad CS and low GM count.

  bone12

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Joined: 3/22/08
Posts: 33

9/26/12 5:54:42 AM#10
Originally posted by Failings
Originally posted by Requiem1066

Yeah Anet do need to be way more proactive in dealing with bot's than what they have been.

What do you suggest they pay the extra GMs with? Your monthly sub? 

What you pay is what you get, B2P = bad CS and low GM count.

not really dude.. ArenaNet is great company.. B2P is the best that a game can do.. they still earn lots of money by selling gems.. and other things..   if u didn't know ArenaNet is working their ass out..

  Requiem1066

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Posts: 274

9/26/12 6:07:14 AM#11
Originally posted by bone12
Originally posted by halflife25

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

 i doubt there are any bots in gw2 so far..

 

There are loads of bot's in Gw2 :/

 

Side topic ish Question:

With modern MMO's, Trading post's , Auction houses etc etc .. is there any need nowadays to allow direct Gold > player trading ?

Would it benifit or harm a game to only allow trading through such sources as a AH ?

 

  ShakyMo

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9/26/12 6:58:57 AM#12
That wouldn't work either, the gold recipient could put some crappy item on the ah at a high price and the gold seller buy it.
  wowfan1996

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Joined: 9/25/09
Posts: 741

9/26/12 7:07:38 AM#13
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by moguy2
It isnt the botters that are ruining it. It is the people that buy the currency from them that is ruining the game. Dont buy it and they have no reason to show up and bot. Viscious cycle huh?

I guess same can be said for those who sell drugs? they are not the one ruining people lives  it is the people who buy the drugs doing it to themselves. Drug dealers are after all just providing a service right?

Perfectly true as long as they're just selling drugs and not forcing anyone. Illegal drugs weren't always illegal and still the majority of humankind never bought or used them. Make no mistake: I don't advocate legalization of any substance. But saying that your health and well-being isn't in your own hands is irresponsible.

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This is a poor analogy in any case. Bots aren't just offering a service to those few who choose to use it. They inevitably affect in-game economy (cause inflation) for everyone. They also use spam to advertise their services which is very annoying and disruptive.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  blackthornn

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Joined: 7/31/04
Posts: 527

OMG I'm not temp banned again? WTF?? This day does end in Y right?

9/26/12 7:18:57 AM#14
reported the same 2 bots on Blackgate daily for the past 4 days, and they're still blipping around their routes farming lowbie mobs with exceptionally high drop rates of crafting materials, teleporting from point to point.
  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 714

9/26/12 7:20:35 AM#15
Originally posted by bone12
Originally posted by halflife25

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Bots-Overrun-Guild-Wars-2/first#post258913

I really enjoyed this article and agree with the conclusion.

Clearly botting is just too easy in Guild Wars 2 and the only people it is hurting are the legit players who will quickly begin to lose interest in the game if ArenaNet does nothing to acknowledge this problem in a bigger, more aggressive way.

HAHAH i am laughing so much.. i can't stop Gw2 Black trading Market wasnt offline for 2 weeks so that guy in there lies.. i played 3 days after launch and i could acces it with no problems and i doubt there are any bots in gw2 so far..

 

and if there are they just waste time on making bots.. pretty useless to do in gw2.

Seafarer's Rest server, character named Power One. Was botting in some cave I went into to get PoI.

I was wondering what that character was doing there, as it seemed to go back and forth and started observing for a while. It ran set course and killed everything on the way.

There is bots, and I really hope it doesn't get like NCSofts earlier games have gone. Real people tend to leave those games.

Just write "guild wars 2 bot" to Google and here's what you get...

That useless part,  travelling and repairing costs. Of course people will bot gold.

  Medicated03

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Joined: 11/30/09
Posts: 41

9/26/12 7:24:09 AM#16

im a bit lost here, from the whole GW2 philosphy and the global trading post  and my time spent in game i had garnered the idea that gold in GW2 was next to useless, other than to fast track crafting .

Considering the lack of gear tiers and gear in general other than ledgendaries or a skin or 2 what does one need mass ammounts of gold for ? It seemed to me that gold was mostly a was to getting things  faster, its hard to see botting to sell gold in a game with this kinda economy and philosophy maintain itself  for a lenghty period of time.

Also with the worldwide trading post the market was always supposed to be unplayable, due to mass ammounts of most things for sale a number that only increases over time as people lvl alts etc....seems like the only real thing gold spammers are doing is hurting Anets gem sales , if they are undercut enough that is.

Im also curious as to how much difference it makes when you could already buy gold in game lol.

The game mechanics dont work like normal where bots would take all your spawns and make it difficult, they dont affect you running around doing your own thing thanks to the systems in place, so how exactly are they ruining a game or an economy( that you could already purcahse gold for real $ from )?????? taking $ from anets coffers is the only real thing they are doing, the people buying their gold are only doing so cause its cheaper than the gem-gold ratio.

Anyone care to help me understand how they are actually impacting the game in any other fashion ? It seems to me that alot of people buying the gold are probabaly just using it to buy items from the trading post or for WvWvW, if you were to buy gems with gold u bought of farmers you may as well just buy gems in the first place......as you buy the gold from farmers to get more bang for your buck outta gems right ?

WTF im lost.

  ellobo29

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Joined: 8/02/08
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9/26/12 7:24:10 AM#17

"I'm sure there are well known botting locations, shouldn't take much effort for ingame Gm's to check either from reports or off their own back ..... or would it ?"

Like lone point waypoint in straits of desolation? god i sware its the same bots there everynight. i keep reporting but nada.

http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/char_tool/CT_imageGenerator.php?pseudo=Centurion%20Mikal&lang=EN&code=&code=TSwtLDUsLSw2LC0sMjksOSwyMiwyMywyNCwtLDEwMiwzNiw4MSw4NCw4OQ%3D%3D

  Dragonantis

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9/26/12 7:28:49 AM#18

GW2 isnt the first game to suffer bots, and you can bet it wont be the last.

My recommendation is do your part as a player, dont buy gold, dont visit gold sites, and report any bot you see.

  kaiser3282

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9/26/12 7:34:22 AM#19
Originally posted by Medicated03

im a bit lost here, from the whole GW2 philosphy and the global trading post  and my time spent in game i had garnered the idea that gold in GW2 was next to useless, other than to fast track crafting .

Considering the lack of gear tiers and gear in general other than ledgendaries or a skin or 2 what does one need mass ammounts of gold for ? It seemed to me that gold was mostly a was to getting things  faster, its hard to see botting to sell gold in a game with this kinda economy and philosophy maintain itself  for a lenghty period of time.

Also with the worldwide trading post the market was always supposed to be unplayable, due to mass ammounts of most things for sale a number that only increases over time as people lvl alts etc....seems like the only real thing gold spammers are doing is hurting Anets gem sales , if they are undercut enough that is.

Im also curious as to how much difference it makes when you could already buy gold in game lol.

The game mechanics dont work like normal where bots would take all your spawns and make it difficult, they dont affect you running around doing your own thing thanks to the systems in place, so how exactly are they ruining a game or an economy( that you could already purcahse gold for real $ from )?????? taking $ from anets coffers is the only real thing they are doing, the people buying their gold are only doing so cause its cheaper than the gem-gold ratio.

Anyone care to help me understand how they are actually impacting the game in any other fashion ? It seems to me that alot of people buying the gold are probabaly just using it to buy items from the trading post or for WvWvW, if you were to buy gems with gold u bought of farmers you may as well just buy gems in the first place......as you buy the gold from farmers to get more bang for your buck outta gems right ?

WTF im lost.

Regarding your 2nd paragraph. It doesnt matter to the botters. Theyll bot and try to sell gold in ANY game. RF Online for example. No more than a few hundred people playing anymore, yet still infested with bots. Probably about half the population is bots.  Theyll do it regardless, as long as they can make evn a iny bit of profit. It doesnt really take any actual work on their part, after all theyre just running a bot and then have to type in someones name to send them gold.

  botrytis

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9/26/12 7:35:10 AM#20

People who buy gold from gold spammers are the same ones that will buy it in any game. They feel they are 'entitled' to do anything they want in a game.

 

In GW1, there were loads of botters initially then they went away as A.Net permabanned as fast as possible - they were banning email accounts. That is why they don't have a free trial - botters use them alot. Even in Rift, which is vary anal about botters still has them from time to time.

 

You can't get away from them but you can punish the people who use them as well as the sellers.

 

A.Net is still probably trying to catch up with all the reports.

 

Also, paying a sub DOES NOT guarrantee any more GM's than GW2 has already. Paying a sub does not guarrantee better security either.

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