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General Discussion  » GW2 Players, do You use Xfire ? (Poll)

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  Thorbrand

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Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 1217

9/26/12 12:42:24 PM#81
No body uses Xfire as this poll shows so far.
  Yamota

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Gaming should be about fun, not gender equality.

9/26/12 12:43:23 PM#82
Originally posted by lilHeala

I've created an account years ago when it had just launched but since then didn't use it anymore.

Also I've consistently asked who was using it in every guild I've been in for all the games I played (to check what folks were using to stay in touch outside of game and / or use to stream) and the result was the same everywhere: the majority of members didn't know what it even is and of those that knew it over all the years the total that confirmed they used is can be counted on 1 hand so my vote should count for more than 1 :P 

Question, how many do you know who have taken part in a voting poll? I don't know any and the reason is that a properly done statisical poll does not need a selection of more than a thousand or two. Compared that to the millions of voters and you can understand why you may not know someone taken part of a poll yet the poll can be pretty accurate.

What it basically boils down to is how they have made the selection of those 1-2000 people.

  Mtibbs1989

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9/26/12 12:49:23 PM#83
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by grounnn
Originally posted by krakra70
Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

One of the major things I hate about scientiftic polls, because it's all 100% guess work there's no true science behind it at all.

Are you joking or what? Scientifical polls are based on statistical mathematics which is very much a science. That is why a properly done poll very rarely have a greater than 3-4% margin of error.

Not saying XFire qualified for that, mainly because the sample selection is unknown, but polls are definetely not guess work.

Statistics is a just a load of bull, it's nothing but guess work and you know it. Even if by some little margine of truth that statistic were correct. Xfire is the furthest thing from producing a "good" statisic. In order for Xfire to even be remotely close to concrete information all players who use Xfire must have it running 100% of the time to get proper data otherwise you'd have major holes in the system. Statistics can also be completely rigged. A great example is the gaming world, because of trolls. If you truely wanted to butcher a poll or statistic you'd just create multiple accounts to sway it in whatever way you'd want.


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  Zzad

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Joined: 2/14/11
Posts: 1329

9/26/12 12:52:33 PM#84

Nop i don´t use Xfire...never had.

 

  Bjelar

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Joined: 4/07/12
Posts: 384

9/26/12 12:56:28 PM#85
Originally posted by krakra70
Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

That's a lie!

 

You need 500-1000 people who is REPRESENTATIVE of the general population. Not any 500-1000 people. Great pain in suffered to make the selection REPERASENTATIVE in "scientific polls" and yet they fail half the time.

Ok enough of being a pedant for today. Cheers.

  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 2208

9/26/12 1:01:06 PM#86
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

How about a couple weeks ago when according to Xfire only about 5000 were playing WoW. Did anyone think WoW was a dying game because of that? Of course not. The fact is if you claim every game is dying you will be right a few times. It takes no skill to say the same thing every day.

  Creslin321

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 5424

9/26/12 1:03:02 PM#87
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

How about a couple weeks ago when according to Xfire only about 5000 were playing WoW. Did anyone think WoW was a dying game because of that? Of course not. The fact is if you claim every game is dying you will be right a few times. It takes no skill to say the same thing every day.

 hehehe...owned.

Yeah, WoW had a pretty massive decline when GW2 came out, but now it's probably going to be up again with MoP.

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  darker70

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Posts: 822

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9/26/12 1:06:07 PM#88
Nope never have never will enuff said.

  MyTabbycat

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Joined: 8/19/12
Posts: 306

9/26/12 1:06:09 PM#89

Never even heard of xfire until people started posting statistics.

What does it do? Just keep track of what you play? Sounds kinda spywareish to me.

  evolver1972

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Joined: 3/18/11
Posts: 1126

What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

9/26/12 1:07:17 PM#90
I don't use it.  I'd never heard of it before joining this site and I don't need anything other than the games I play to tell me how long I've been playing.  /age

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2676

9/26/12 1:07:36 PM#91
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

How about a couple weeks ago when according to Xfire only about 5000 were playing WoW. Did anyone think WoW was a dying game because of that? Of course not. The fact is if you claim every game is dying you will be right a few times. It takes no skill to say the same thing every day.

The fact is that any game that is dying will also most likely do so in Xfire.

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  bartoni33

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Joined: 5/03/06
Posts: 1113

Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations

9/26/12 1:15:48 PM#92
LOL Who uses that crap nowadays! I mean c'mon! A free service that bundles voice chat and video recording with auto-patching and the ability to talk to people in-game using minimal bandwith and CPU usage (unless you are still running a VIC 20 on 56k internet). The horror!

  Angier2758

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Joined: 9/05/09
Posts: 1060

9/26/12 1:17:22 PM#93
Originally posted by krakra70
Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

 Axe to grind...

  Mtibbs1989

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2868

9/26/12 1:18:04 PM#94
Originally posted by bartoni33
LOL Who uses that crap nowadays! I mean c'mon! A free service that bundles voice chat and video recording with auto-patching and the ability to talk to people in-game using minimal bandwith and CPU usage (unless you are still running a VIC 20 on 56k internet). The horror!

Poor video quality when you can use Xsplit. Poor Audio quality in voice chat and just about every other program has a IM in it now so there's nothing good comingfrom that. It's the jack of all trades and the master of none.


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  Angier2758

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Posts: 1060

9/26/12 1:23:42 PM#95

As someone who was forced to take several advanced stats classes I've not seen one person on here who has a decent understanding of stats.

IE xfire is just for fun because it's not a good source...

Why?

Okay so lets take a poll of people who own more than 5 guns on who should be President in 2012...

Okay lets take a poll of xfire users on which game they are playing right now...

Same issue.  The results are not significant because many demographics don't use xfire.... xfire is just for trolling eachother.

 

  TeknoBug

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Posts: 2166

9/26/12 1:25:48 PM#96

I have an xfire profile since 2005 or so but I never use it.


  evolver1972

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Joined: 3/18/11
Posts: 1126

What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

9/26/12 1:26:52 PM#97
Originally posted by krakra70
Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

Keep in mind Xfire is nowhere near scientific.

 

Xfire is only accurate at showing how many Xfire users are playing particular games.  It is not a good sampling of players of a particular game.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  SnarlingWolf

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Posts: 2728

9/26/12 1:30:16 PM#98
Originally posted by Angier2758

As someone who was forced to take several advanced stats classes I've not seen one person on here who has a decent understanding of stats.

IE xfire is just for fun because it's not a good source...

Why?

Okay so lets take a poll of people who own more than 5 guns on who should be President in 2012...

Okay lets take a poll of xfire users on which game they are playing right now...

Same issue.  The results are not significant because many demographics don't use xfire.... xfire is just for trolling eachother.

 

Actually I would say your's is the worst argument so far.

Gun owners are a specific demographic in the U.S. but...

Gamers are also already a demographic and X-Fire takes a sample size of that demographic. That allows you to compare game to game.

 

Xfire already splits it out by individual game and tracks usage. You now have another demographic specific to the game in question. When that group plays less or stops playing it is an easy correlation to the rest of those who play the same game but do not use XFire.

 

You would not, for example, find a time when a game doubled it's playerbase and time played by those players, but the Xfire numbers for that game were cut in half.

 

 

The biggest problem is one that is common on the internet. It is the "So what if the XFire numbers went down, me and my friends are still playing therefore it cannot be correct". It is the same argument used to try and say any data, no matter how factual, can not be correct because the user is personally doing something different than that data. You show actual movie ticket sales numbers have been constantly declining and someone will say that all though that is direct factual data it can't be correct because they saw every Twilight movie and are therefore going to the movies more often than before.

  Rokurgepta

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9/26/12 1:32:56 PM#99
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

How about a couple weeks ago when according to Xfire only about 5000 were playing WoW. Did anyone think WoW was a dying game because of that? Of course not. The fact is if you claim every game is dying you will be right a few times. It takes no skill to say the same thing every day.

The fact is that any game that is dying will also most likely do so in Xfire.

Of course. Its not like Xfire is the Nostradamus of game predicting. It reflects its population and I doubt Xfires population is really all that different from others. If I had to guess I would think Xfire attracts a more hardcore and informed crowd and not the casual crowd but thats a guess. That said I would not expect to see Xfire numbers stay high on a dying game.

  p_c_sousa

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Posts: 627

9/26/12 1:37:11 PM#100
i dont even know what x-fire is. lol
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