Originally posted by Damzilla
Well, the numbers are really interesting at the moment... I reckon we will have a lot more votes when the NA players wake up in a few hours. I encourage anyone who didn't vote to do so, every vote counts !

Nope. I use to use it, up to about the time lotro launched... or thereabouts. But not since.

I'm using it, because it tracks every hour of every game I play. Great tool to see in which game I spent the most time.

Guild Wars 2 - 5 hours.

The Secret World - 591 hours.

Originally posted by Connmacart

Originally posted by krakra70

Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

Scientific polls makes use of a large pool of different groups. Xfire is a group on its own and as such unrepresentive of everything except it's own populace.

What do you mean group of its own? I as an XFire user does not neccessarily belong to the same group as some other XFire user, except that we both use XFire. We can still be of different, age, gender, playstyle etc.

What we can say is that the group composition of XFire users is unknown and as such you cannot know if it is representative or not.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Damzilla
Well, the numbers are really interesting at the moment... I reckon we will have a lot more votes when the NA players wake up in a few hours. I encourage anyone who didn't vote to do so, every vote counts !

 

considering xfire shows little under 9k people out of the over 2 mil who got this game it's not surprising most people here don'tuse it

It's amusing that 10% of 113 votes seem to use it though, meaning a far greater proportion of mmorpg.com forumites use x-fire than that of the actual player base (shock, horror).

Not surprising we see x-fire "trend" threads here ad-nauseum but nowhere else :)

You know that you going to get an overwhelm no.... I will predict that no more than 1-2% of the mmorpg community do....

You do know that xfire is a sample of the gw2 community right? Not a 1 to 1 correlation right?

edit - lol

edit - just looked at the results 10% do? geez thats a lot. 

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Damzilla
Well, the numbers are really interesting at the moment... I reckon we will have a lot more votes when the NA players wake up in a few hours. I encourage anyone who didn't vote to do so, every vote counts !

 

considering xfire shows little under 9k people out of the over 2 mil who got this game it's not surprising most people here don'tuse it

It's amusing that 10% of 113 votes seem to use it though, meaning a far greater proportion of mmorpg.com forumites use x-fire than that of the actual player base (shock, horror).

Not surprising we see x-fire "trend" threads here ad-nauseum but nowhere else :)

This is a forum. People with an agenda will vote yes even if they never used XFire, just to prove some "point.

Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Damzilla
Well, the numbers are really interesting at the moment... I reckon we will have a lot more votes when the NA players wake up in a few hours. I encourage anyone who didn't vote to do so, every vote counts !

 

considering xfire shows little under 9k people out of the over 2 mil who got this game it's not surprising most people here don'tuse it

It's amusing that 10% of 113 votes seem to use it though, meaning a far greater proportion of mmorpg.com forumites use x-fire than that of the actual player base (shock, horror).

Not surprising we see x-fire "trend" threads here ad-nauseum but nowhere else :)

This is a forum. People with an agenda will vote yes even if they never used XFire, just to prove some "point.

I agree there may be some funny business with the "Yes" votes. At the sametime mmorpg represents a hardercore mmo gamer, so it could be possible.. Unlikely though.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Connmacart

Originally posted by krakra70

Originally posted by Damzilla

Simple question, simple answer.

Rules: Question applies to GW2 players only. This poll isn't made to be a representative of the whole community, just a sample of the current MMORPG.com members - players. No trolling, flaming - keep it clean and civil - it's not that hard, is it ?

Keep in mind scientific polls are being made with as low as 500-1000 people to represent opinions of millions of people. Even if only 1% use xfire in statistics it is more than enough.

Scientific polls makes use of a large pool of different groups. Xfire is a group on its own and as such unrepresentive of everything except it's own populace.

What do you mean group of its own? I as an XFire user does not neccessarily belong to the same group as some other XFire user, except that we both use XFire. We can still be of different, age, gender, playstyle etc.

What we can say is that the group composition of XFire users is unknown and as such you cannot know if it is representative or not.

Yes, you do, your all x-fire users, ie the x-fire users group. Age, gender etc etc is irrelevant, you could all be purple bottomed moon-hippos, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference, your just a "1" number in a column essentially i this context.

It's not representative of anything other than itself. As mentioned earlier 9k x-fire users play GW2 out of over 2 million account holders, hence they are not representative of anything outside of the general population of x-fire users and the proportion of x-fire users who own/play GW2.

Simples :)

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by BadSpock

I think I used/cared about Xfire once for like.. a week and had it on my Sig here at MMORPG.com... years and years ago.

Never really saw the point? Bragging to people about how much time you've played a game? Keeping track of your own play time?

Never understood.

Always worth a laugh when people quote xfire numbers as some kind of gospel on how well a game is doing.

Are xfire numbers significant?

Small sample size + diverse unrepresentative sample + voluntary/at-will participation = no one cares.

Can you tell me one time it's been wrong in predicting a downward trend? One example please? Just one.

World of Warcraft.

That game has been 'dying' for... 5-6 years based on xfire numbers... LOL I can't even type that without laughing.

Saying that WoW is "in decline" and in a "downward trend" even after losing 2-3 million accounts is a LAUGHABLE assertation to make.

That's like saying "Apple only sold 5 million iPhone 5's in the first 3 days- Apple must be in decline and in a downward trend after the death of Steve Jobs" (which btw is something I actually read on a tech/news site this week.)

*paraphrased of course - they were saying "Is Apple just another tech company now?" like seriously? I HATE Apple products but I'm not an idiot - they are still *the* major player in the consumer tech market.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Damzilla
Well, the numbers are really interesting at the moment... I reckon we will have a lot more votes when the NA players wake up in a few hours. I encourage anyone who didn't vote to do so, every vote counts !

 

considering xfire shows little under 9k people out of the over 2 mil who got this game it's not surprising most people here don'tuse it

It's amusing that 10% of 113 votes seem to use it though, meaning a far greater proportion of mmorpg.com forumites use x-fire than that of the actual player base (shock, horror).

Not surprising we see x-fire "trend" threads here ad-nauseum but nowhere else :)

This is a forum. People with an agenda will vote yes even if they never used XFire, just to prove some "point.

Well, the same can be said for any gathering of information in this manner.

We simply don't know thats the case but can't discount the possibility either.

Regardless of results I still find it amusing, x-fire "stat trends" are just laughable at times :)