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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] Darkfall: Unholy Wars: Reshaping Darkfall's Sandbox

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9/26/12 10:24:57 AM#41
Why is everyone excited about that.  Yes it's a great concept, but if there one thing these devs have proved over the years with the original Darkfall is how incompetent they are.

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9/26/12 10:27:06 AM#42

there are so many good things in DF, like the huge seamless map, naval combat, smart npc mobs, true skill based combat, deep magic system, but a full loot ffa mmo will never become popular wihtout a relatively safe area (like high sec in EvE).

it is just way too hard core for 98% of mmo players. the vast majoirty of players do not want to be forced to pvp, they want the choice to pvp when they get bored of pve.

they NEED to make a high safety zone or this kinds of game will never be able to sustain themselves financially.



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9/26/12 10:28:07 AM#43
I never heard of this game before, this game remind me of demon soul which is my favorite game.

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9/26/12 10:28:40 AM#44
Originally posted by Mad+Dog
Every one in the mmo community needs to get behind this game, is has to be said its the only game out there thats truly different is a massive way than the typical "tab123themepark".  

 The why aren't you playing DF? DFUW is nothing new its just a remake of DF1 with the same basic ideas and developer that failed with DF1.

  Call me what you will, but AV and Tasos have a long history of promising alot and then delaying, anf horribly underperforming. This is just more of the same. Tons of players hyped and were behind DF1 and it made no difference currently it has 5-10k players max and is gonna be wiped as soon as DFUW is released so Av can charge them for the game again. No with only alittle over 1 month till its supposed release AV still hasn't mentioned those players will get free copies to the new DF (At least not since DF2010  was planned)

  Things they didn't learn from DF. ie no open beta. In DF1 they stated they only needed their in house AI and paid proffessional beta testers. They also stated the game was far away beyound many currently released games at the time. What they released was bug ridden and full of hacks missing many of the features they promissed would be in game.

   Once againt they are promising same with the same lack of testing, and lack of real information.


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9/26/12 10:41:39 AM#45

I still hope to hear word about mob AI and the pve element to the game. If that is fleshed out along side the pvp system the game will take off. If mobs are nothing more than a grind tool to level in order to do nothing else later but pvp the game will still be a barren wasteland and nothing more than a massive battleground disguised as an mmo.


The pve element to an mmo is critical. It's creates a living world and creates cause for war. Mobs should be a resource worth fighting over just like land and harvesting points. It of course interests those who think an mmo is more than just ganking people 24/7. The first Darkfall was just slightly more exciting than pong when fighting npc's.

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9/26/12 10:43:53 AM#46
if i was hyped for GW2, for this, i am x3 times more!

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9/26/12 10:52:20 AM#47
Darkfall is the BEST and most THRILLING game I have ever played.  DF UW will be absolutely amazing.  If you want to be on the edge of your seat with the adrenaline pumping then DF is for you!!


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9/26/12 10:59:43 AM#48

"Our new roles system preserves the level-less nature of Darkfall and at the same time it makes role-choosing a strategic element in the game."

I have a bad feeling about this


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9/26/12 10:59:58 AM#49
Originally posted by Tamanous

I still hope to hear word about mob AI and the pve element to the game. If that is fleshed out along side the pvp system the game will take off. If mobs are nothing more than a grind tool to level in order to do nothing else later but pvp the game will still be a barren wasteland and nothing more than a massive battleground disguised as an mmo.


The pve element to an mmo is critical. It's creates a living world and creates cause for war. Mobs should be a resource worth fighting over just like land and harvesting points. It of course interests those who think an mmo is more than just ganking people 24/7. The first Darkfall was just slightly more exciting than pong when fighting npc's.

They have done alot to the PvE aswell. more logical placement of mobs, revamped dungeons, better AI .- mobs will also have a more impact and play a better purpose in terms of loot tables as far as i have been able to grasp


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9/26/12 11:07:05 AM#50
is the combat still gonna be like what i see on youtube from the old DF? people runing around randomly swinging in circles like an old "benny hill show" ..if so count me out..way out

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9/26/12 11:09:43 AM#51
Well it can't be any worse than Darkfall... Can it?

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9/26/12 11:26:30 AM#52

I think DF2.0 will be good.  It's a new game so learning will take place again.  It will be much faster than the orginal launch but still the game will be fun.  hopefully the developers will continue to expand upon and release new content for the game keeping it exciting.

For those of you who are afraid to get into a PvP oriented game where you can lose your stuff, don't worry about it.  Gear is really easy to obtain in this game.  You can always gave a steady supply of decent and good gear bags.  You may not have the best stuff all the time but it isn't that hard to get real close to it.

Give AV a chance to prove it with Darkfall 2.0.  They aren't stupid.  They made Darkfall.


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9/26/12 11:29:39 AM#53
Originally posted by odinsrath
is the combat still gonna be like what i see on youtube from the old DF? people runing around randomly swinging in circles like an old "benny hill show" ..if so count me out..way out

they are swinging like that because they are not good melee players and don't know how to time their swings.


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9/26/12 11:29:45 AM#54
TBH DarkFall as it exists right now has the most interesting mob AI that I've seen . . . creatures actually flee from combat and then counterattack instead of mindlessly fighting to the death against even ridiculous odds as in 99.9% of MMOs.

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9/26/12 11:29:50 AM#55

Did I like Darkfall when I tried it? Yes, even tho it was very new for me and a refreshing view, compared to other mmorpgs. I WILL play this game when it comes out, I WILL spend atleast 24 hours on it before I can make a stand and I WILL look at the pros in this game, instead of finding cons. A game is better if we look past the problems and enjoy of what we got. I think I will have a great time, because that is the mood I will have when playing this in November! :)


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9/26/12 11:47:06 AM#56
Cross fingers, hope they really have learned the mistakes in Df 1.0 and deliver a good new sandbox game. This is the last chance for them and the last hope for us.

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The Repopulation | Darkfall: Original | Crowfall


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9/26/12 12:04:48 PM#57

It's a nice short interview for people who know little about the game, which is still a lot of people.




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9/26/12 12:23:12 PM#58


Unless AV somehow destroys the essence of everything that is Darkfall I feel confident in saying I will be playing the hell out of this game when it comes out.



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9/26/12 12:24:03 PM#59
Originally posted by raistlinm

I think journalists need to really start to take a look at how to make their craft "pop" more, this article seemed to be a waste of space and words maybe it was my lack of immersion in the orignal Darkfall but nothing said in this article gave me a sense that I would want to play this game especially when considered against the information about the original DF.

Is this new game supposed to recapture the feeling that this is a true sandbox and not just some FFA PVP?!?!

What exactly is different in this game from the original DF?  Maybe it isn't the interviewers fault because Tasos seemed to dance around giving a clear answer that conveyed what this game is about.


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9/26/12 12:27:48 PM#60
Going to milk some more money out of the few hundred people who actually still play this game and new people who are blinded by words. Not buying into it.
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