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  remyburke

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Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 2984

I liked MMOs better when gamers didn't play them, and just geeks did.

9/20/12 5:20:54 AM#21
I was. Big PS fan back in its heyday. Ill load this up on my harddrive for sure.

Playing: ESO

Played: AC1, AC2, AO, AoC, CO, CoX, DAoC, DCUO, DN, EVE, EQ1, EQ2,
FE, FFXI, FFXIV, FF, GW1, GW2, Istaria, L2, LoTRO, MO, MxO, NW, Rift, RoE,
Ryzom, SB, SWG, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, WAR, WoW, WURM...

  Scypheroth87

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Joined: 9/20/12
Posts: 15

9/20/12 6:26:16 AM#22
coudnt get into this game....i got the beta but i just cant see the point in anything...the game lacks a direction. I followed this game with great intrest but when i actually got into it i found i was like a deer in headlights. Luckly i got in on the free beta so i dont blow my money on this game....
  hfztt

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 590

9/20/12 6:50:45 AM#23
Originally posted by Unshra
Originally posted by Zefire
If it's like guild wars 2 that they sell only cosmetic ,character slots boosts etc wil be good, anything else will be fail

 

I am not sure if you know this, but Guild Wars 2's system allows a person with enough money to exchange Gems for enough gold to level a character to 80 and fully gear them in exalted gear. This process would only take a few hours at most and of course that person would end up spending several hundreds of dollars (US).

 

Aye, but that is not P2W. For it to be P2W its has to be the only realistic way to get to lvl 80.

In short P2W is when you can gain an ingame advantage that can only realisticly be gained through the use of RL cash. (World of Tanks Gold Ammo is an example of this.)

Cosmetics, xp bonus, even income bonus to some degree is acceptable. All of those things can be gained by just playing the game.

Now mind you it is not enough to avoid the P2W label that it is theoreticly possible to gain it without paying RL cash. It has to be a viable alternative, usualy with a cost of time (that is grinding) instead of using RL cash.

  Caldrin

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Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4033

9/20/12 6:55:28 AM#24

Sound like a great system to me..

If your paying a sub for the game then you should get somthing for it over the people who are not paying..

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  PieRad

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Joined: 11/14/08
Posts: 1169

9/20/12 9:01:31 AM#25
How much will membership cost though?

  GrumpyMel2

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Joined: 3/24/09
Posts: 1789

9/20/12 10:52:51 AM#26

My definition of "Pay 2 Win" is that anything which gives the paying player a direct mechanical advantage in gameplay is "Pay 2 Win". So what's described here definately falls into that category. I can't see how having access to more grenades and medpacks, etc in a given time-span and being able to use vehicles longer doesn't qualify as an advantage in play.

 

That being said, at least it's not an open-ended model..... that's the real scourge of the FTP model....where the more you pay, the more advantage you get with no upper limit. This sounds more like, either you pay for membership and you get all the advantages or you don't. So as long as you are willing to pay for membership, you are not at a mechanical disadvantage to anyone else in the game, no matter how much dough they are willing to cough up....I can live with that as a model.

  urthal22

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Joined: 8/28/07
Posts: 112

9/20/12 10:56:15 AM#27

Im really Curious on how people expect a companie to keep a game running after devlopment cost,  server costs,  etc  with a Cash shop that would not even attract anyone remotely... you are GIVEN a game wich is Quite amazing, and you complain that on top of being given a game...you should not have any Drawbacks from someone who supports them monthly with some money ?

 

If its that big of an issue , Just pay the damn Fee and become a member also... If the game wasnt F2P , it would be a buy the box and pay monthly game.... Where would you win in that scenario ?

  User Deleted
9/20/12 11:04:32 AM#28
Dependent on the cost I wouldn't be Against the membership deal for the extra resources. What I want most is joystick support, how the hell are people flying that well with a mouse arghh
  Theocritus

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Joined: 7/15/08
Posts: 3604

9/20/12 1:23:33 PM#29
Originally posted by Zefire
If it's like guild wars 2 that they sell only cosmetic ,character slots boosts etc wil be good, anything else will be fail

     This isn't GW2 though and this is SOE we are talking about....You know the company that used to try to get cash for just about everything......If this model is correct it would be the first f20 model that is actually fairly f2p friendly.....It hasn't worked very well (for the players) in their other games.

  User Deleted
9/20/12 2:14:41 PM#30
Originally posted by mmoguy43

 

Taking the time to read it... this looks to be the best F2P implementation I've encountered. Or should I say the only one that feels fair. It is certainly not EQ2x or Vanguard's F2P model.

I agree and I'm willing to throw cash at them. At least about $10 a month's worth.

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