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  Aerowyn

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9/18/12 6:06:42 PM#41
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by eggy08

Originally posted by Foomerang Because, similar to d3, this is a developer driven economy. So changes like these directly affect the developers earnings. It just puts up a huge red flag for me when an mmorpg is set up this way.
So you'd rather the developers just release the game and not touch any aspect of the game or to allow people to just exploit the economy and the system? I don't get your logic.
Im a fan of buffing stuff to make it more attractive, not making something so unappealing that you go do something else. Why didnt they just bring the other dungeon rewards up to par instead of nerfing?  
did you even read what they did to the rewards of the dungeon?
Yeah they put the full reward of the exact same dungeon and type on a 30 minute timer so youd go do something else. Did i miss other parts?  
so how are you getting any less rewards if you want to run that dungeon? you just can't exploit it that's all

Why is farming the same dungeon an exploit?

 

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  FrodoFragins

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9/18/12 6:06:59 PM#42

Part of the players strategy on that one path was an exploit.

 

Gamers will always look for the most efficient path.  The developers can only hope to fix the most egregious design mistakes and hope that no path is much more efficient than the rest.

  User Deleted
9/18/12 6:07:23 PM#43
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by eggy08

Originally posted by Foomerang Because, similar to d3, this is a developer driven economy. So changes like these directly affect the developers earnings. It just puts up a huge red flag for me when an mmorpg is set up this way.
So you'd rather the developers just release the game and not touch any aspect of the game or to allow people to just exploit the economy and the system? I don't get your logic.
Im a fan of buffing stuff to make it more attractive, not making something so unappealing that you go do something else. Why didnt they just bring the other dungeon rewards up to par instead of nerfing?  
did you even read what they did to the rewards of the dungeon?
Yeah they put the full reward of the exact same dungeon and type on a 30 minute timer so youd go do something else. Did i miss other parts?  
so how are you getting any less rewards if you want to run that dungeon? you just can't exploit it that's all

Why is farming the same dungeon an exploit?

 

Forget it. Just going to go straight through you. If you haven't figured it out yet, then you clearly won't.
  Jyiiga

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Joined: 3/03/10
Posts: 987

9/18/12 6:11:30 PM#44

I have a serious issue with the diminishing returns on farming the same mobs. I farm the same type of mobs when I need a particular drop for crafting. Example.. I need cloth, I kill bandits. I can't kill bandits for more than 40 minutes before the drop rate practically drops to zero. That my friends is ridiculous and inexcusable in my book. I am not a gd bot.

This is the first thing that has made me want to say FU Anet. 

  emperorwings

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Joined: 12/25/06
Posts: 1252

9/18/12 6:11:46 PM#45

There is still other ways to make money but it's annoying what they done. You can just grind mobs / do d/e's and I worked it out to be 1g 5g that you can make an hour. People probly can make more than that but I've got more than enough to share around. But sometimes you can get lucky with the TP and make as much as you want if you don't mind the risk. Better than having lockout times for the dungeons.

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  Foomerang

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Joined: 11/10/05
Posts: 4294

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still

9/18/12 6:14:00 PM#46

You guys arent seeing it i guess. Thats fine. Sorry we couldnt understand each other

If you thought the events were dynamic, you'll think the stories are living.

  gessekai332

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Posts: 821

9/18/12 6:56:06 PM#47
Originally posted by Foomerang

So whats wrong with farming the shit out of easy dungeons for tons of gold in an mmo where levels are scaled and gear supposedly doesnt matter?

they dont mind you farming the dungeons, which is why they let you do it an unlimited amount of times per day. What they do mind is that one dungeon is unintentionally super easy compared to the others. What they are aiming for is that all dungeons are at somewhat the same difficulty compared to each other. The only easy dungeon is story mode dungeons. All explorable dungeons are meant to be hard and are meant to all be similar difficulty level.

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  gessekai332

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9/18/12 6:57:05 PM#48
Originally posted by Foomerang

You guys arent seeing it i guess. Thats fine. Sorry we couldnt understand each other

you aren't seeing it because you dont actually understand the situation since you arent playing the game.

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  User Deleted
9/18/12 7:00:58 PM#49
Originally posted by gessekai332
Originally posted by Foomerang

You guys arent seeing it i guess. Thats fine. Sorry we couldnt understand each other

you aren't seeing it because you dont actually understand the situation since you arent playing the game.

^ this

  terrant

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Joined: 3/16/07
Posts: 1685

9/18/12 7:03:23 PM#50

Well, personally, I had no intentions of doing speed runs for cash, but nowadays, go walk into fireheart rise or Quensdale. What you hear is this:

 

"LFM, 80s only, CoF/CM explorable mode speed run. If you can't complete it in 10 minutes we kick you. PST with class and spec, plate only"

 

The majority of dungeon running turns from "bunch of players getting a few decent rewards and having a challenging time" to "quickest way to make loads of money fast, and alienate anyone that isn't teh perfect spec we want to do it."  It's actually getting hard on my server to get dungeon groups unless you are level 80 and looking to do speed runs. And forget about Story mode.

 

I can understand the dungeon farmer's complaints, I really can. Personally, I never wanted to do that, I'd be bored doing the same dungeon over and over. 

  Pixilated

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Joined: 11/10/11
Posts: 30

9/18/12 7:05:32 PM#51

This is ALL about their CA$H Shop !!! Period  end of effin story!

Anything you can figure out how to make easy gold in this game

will get nerf'ed ! This is the new P2W but it's really P4T=Pay4Time.

Either get ready to grind your ass off for anything that costs gold

in game or buy Gems. They ain't sellin enuff gems so they'll cripple the

ecomony !!!

  gessekai332

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Posts: 821

9/18/12 7:14:47 PM#52
Originally posted by Pixilated

This is ALL about their CA$H Shop !!! Period  end of effin story!

Anything you can figure out how to make easy gold in this game

will get nerf'ed ! This is the new P2W but it's really P4T=Pay4Time.

Either get ready to grind your ass off for anything that costs gold

in game or buy Gems. They ain't sellin enuff gems so they'll cripple the

ecomony !!!

thats not true. if you personally figure out how to make gold easily yourself, dont tell anyone about it and it wont get nerfed. If you just follow the flavor of the month gold farming exploit that everyone is doing of course it will get nerfed.

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  Dave3216

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 136

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

9/18/12 7:19:20 PM#53
Originally posted by gessekai332
Originally posted by Pixilated

This is ALL about their CA$H Shop !!! Period  end of effin story!

Anything you can figure out how to make easy gold in this game

will get nerf'ed ! This is the new P2W but it's really P4T=Pay4Time.

Either get ready to grind your ass off for anything that costs gold

in game or buy Gems. They ain't sellin enuff gems so they'll cripple the

ecomony !!!

thats not true. if you personally figure out how to make gold easily yourself, dont tell anyone about it and it wont get nerfed. If you just follow the flavor of the month gold farming exploit that everyone is doing of course it will get nerfed.

QFT

  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3235

9/19/12 3:53:49 AM#54
People were making money hand over fist by running 1 path of a dungeon only half way and repeating, getting more gold an hr than intended by the system. ANET put in an anti-farming code (JUST LIKE GW1) into the dungeon system. People are pissed because they can't do speed runs over and over again. QQ insues. 


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  lunarwitch00

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9/19/12 3:58:24 AM#55

to bad its affecting  players

leveling up

not doing dungeons

the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

  Vesavius

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9/19/12 4:11:42 AM#56

I don't care much tbh... I get really bored farming pretend money tbh.

I have enough put aside from simple play to make my legendary armour and weapon for my main, and I haven't even run any dungeons yet aside from story mode.

 

  Tutu2

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9/19/12 4:14:43 AM#57
I applaud ANet for taking exploits seriously, unlike 90% of MMOs currently with their ridiculusly effed up economies. (WoW being a fine top example.)
  MMOExposed

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9/19/12 4:15:57 AM#58
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  lunarwitch00

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9/19/12 4:24:32 AM#59

so farming is exploiting playing the game longer than an hour is exploit doing the same dungeon is exploit

doing events is exploit

 

you cant even go through a single event chain at 80 without hitting the cap

 

and as i said up there^

its also affecting low leveling trying to level up doing events

 

sorry im going there

 

see what happen to diablo 3

 tons of people who left that game for the exact reasons and things guild wars 2 is doing

i dont think what anets doing is bad but the system shouldnt punish real players

once again bots dont notice it most got mulitple accounts anyways

all i gotta say

 

delete this mess is right

 

  xpiher

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9/19/12 5:00:47 AM#60
Originally posted by lunarwitch00

to bad its affecting  players

leveling up

not doing dungeons

the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

 

Sometimes when you fix one issue, it breaks another. Chances are, the exp getting hit with diminishing returns was a programing oversight. I expect it to be corrected. HOWEVER, the way the system was explained, a normal player should never be hit with diminshing returns since. If you are constantly doing different content, the anti-farming algorithm shouldn't kick in. 


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