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  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 967

9/18/12 8:20:26 AM#161
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

I dont like WoW, im not a sanbox-lover and im bored of GW2, and believe me im not the only one. The ¨WoW players¨ are probably more than the 50% of the active GW2 population atm, wait till the 9.25.12 to find how right i am. And what are you talking about? there is GEAR GRIND IN GW2, all you do at endgame is grind Karma and farm dungeons to get gear WITH STATS, and the STATS works in WvWvW. 

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
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9/18/12 8:22:01 AM#162
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Amjoco
Give it a rest, it's a video game. It is made up of many different types of players and people. He was generalizing that folks are use to playing like they do in WoW is all. Holy crud it's drama Tuesday!

Yes generalising only WOW players, that w as my point and then suddenly changed his point in next post. Why people love to rag on WOW players ONLY is beyond me.

But why are you telling me 'it is just a game' and 'give it a rest'?  i am not trying to single out a specific group of players here or making any generalizations. People get bored of games..it is that simple..regardless of their gaming background. Somethign he needs to understand.

I wonder why you even quote me? 

He wasn't ragging on WoW players. He was stating that folks were playing the game like WoW.

I myself love WoW and am looking forward to MoP. I understand the gentle differences between WoW and GW2 and many others do too. This is what he was trying to point out, that they are different.

I'm quoting you to interject. It's a discussion forum and I'm discussing. :)

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  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

9/18/12 8:30:52 AM#163
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Amjoco
Give it a rest, it's a video game. It is made up of many different types of players and people. He was generalizing that folks are use to playing like they do in WoW is all. Holy crud it's drama Tuesday!

Yes generalising only WOW players, that w as my point and then suddenly changed his point in next post. Why people love to rag on WOW players ONLY is beyond me.

But why are you telling me 'it is just a game' and 'give it a rest'?  i am not trying to single out a specific group of players here or making any generalizations. People get bored of games..it is that simple..regardless of their gaming background. Somethign he needs to understand.

I wonder why you even quote me? 

He wasn't ragging on WoW players. He was stating that folks were playing the game like WoW.

I myself love WoW and am looking forward to MoP. I understand the gentle differences between WoW and GW2 and many others do too. This is what he was trying to point out, that they are different.

I'm quoting you to interject. It's a discussion forum and I'm discussing. :)

No you were trying to patronize my by telling me 'give it a rest'. So iw as wondering why...i am capable of understanding something very simple that any type of  gamer can get bored of GW2 regardless of whether he is WOW player or sandbox player. If he wasn't asked 'why only wow players..what about sandbox' then that is where it would have ended..giving an impression that only players getting bored of GW2 are WOW raid addicts.

  User Deleted
9/18/12 9:50:30 AM#164
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

So i imagined this post by you?

 

...

I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

You are clearly trying to imply here that only people who are geting bored of WOW are people addicted to grind. And when called out on this generalization you suddenly change your tune and even include sandbox MMO players into this 'bored' category.

I have started to see this pattern in your psot where you keep changing goal posts to make your point.  

If you can point me to the part of my post where I said those people where the only ones getting bored with GW2, then you will have a point. Until then, you are fighting windmills. I remain convinced that those deeply stuck into the "WoW clone" endgame gear grind are the majority of those who can't adapt to GW2. I never said they were the only ones.

Your agenda is pretty obvious considering your post history btw - you trying to lecture people like me or Amjoco is quite funny.

  Thorbrand

Novice Member

Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 1217

9/18/12 9:54:36 AM#165
This would be the longest playing MMO in 10yrs. I can't believe I actually went a month and not quit. Now to see if it can make it two months.
  Lorkii

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/04/12
Posts: 90

9/18/12 10:02:49 AM#166
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

So i imagined this post by you?

 

...

I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

You are clearly trying to imply here that only people who are geting bored of WOW are people addicted to grind. And when called out on this generalization you suddenly change your tune and even include sandbox MMO players into this 'bored' category.

I have started to see this pattern in your psot where you keep changing goal posts to make your point.  

If you can point me to the part of my post where I said those people where the only ones getting bored with GW2, then you will have a point. Until then, you are fighting windmills. I remain convinced that those deeply stuck into the "WoW clone" endgame gear grind are the majority of those who can't adapt to GW2. I never said they were the only ones.

Anyway, another person with an agenda according to the post history - and one more on the block list :)

One of my favorite games ever is shadowbane, another is Planetside1 and now 2, DAOC, was my all time favorite, and guess what you never had much gear grind in it s early years, it had a quest chain to end level to get an Epic set of gear. As you can see, These aren t gear grind games, well DAOC sorta did, but not really, shadowbane not really, there was farming to do, but no different then harvesting. Planetside has none at all, advancement in levels and certs. I went into GW2 hoping it had WvW at least 10% as good as DAOC RvR, or Planetside, nope not even close. I was hoping DEs improved the experience of leveling, and I can safely say to me anyways, it has made it worse.

Now that I ve shown I really don t care if I gear grind, I can safely say, in the last 10 years GW2 is the worst MMO experience I ve had, and I ve tried alot of games. It s simply that 1. It was overhyped beyond beleif. 2. It s not as revolutionary as some like to think. and 3. Some people are just not going to like it. Simple as that.

  User Deleted
9/18/12 10:07:55 AM#167
Originally posted by Lorkii

One of my favorite games ever is shadowbane, another is Planetside1 and now 2, DAOC, was my all time favorite, and guess what you never had much gear grind in it s early years, it had a quest chain to end level to get an Epic set of gear. As you can see, These aren t gear grind games, well DAOC sorta did, but not really, shadowbane not really, there was farming to do, but no different then harvesting. Planetside has none at all, advancement in levels and certs. I went into GW2 hoping it had WvW at least 10% as good as DAOC RvR, or Planetside, nope not even close. I was hoping DEs improved the experience of leveling, and I can safely say to me anyways, it has made it worse.

Now that I ve shown I really don t care if I gear grind, I can safely say, in the last 10 years GW2 is the worst MMO experience I ve had, and I ve tried alot of games. It s simply that 1. It was overhyped beyond beleif. 2. It s not as revolutionary as some like to think. and 3. Some people are just not going to like it. Simple as that.

And in all those years, you still didn't manage to learn the difference between "many" and "all".

But while we are at it, please tell me what made DAoC "RvR" so much better than GW2 "W3". I've played both too, so don't try to fool me, please give me an honest answer.

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2528

9/18/12 10:10:46 AM#168
Originally posted by Thorbrand
This would be the longest playing MMO in 10yrs. I can't believe I actually went a month and not quit. Now to see if it can make it two months.

I like this honesty - it it refreshing (I am serious).

 

If A.Net operates like they do for GW1 - expect lots of unique holidays, etc. Also expect some small expasions of area updates too.

 

It is meant to be a long term game, the way A.Net operates.

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  MosesZD

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Joined: 2/10/12
Posts: 1407

9/18/12 10:12:01 AM#169

/age

 

You have played this character for 44 hours 22 minutes over the past 22 days.

Across all characters, you have played  :way too much, get off your butt and do something: over the past 24 days.

 

 

:)

 

 

  SnarlingWolf

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Joined: 6/23/09
Posts: 2728

9/18/12 10:12:57 AM#170

At no point has GW2 grabbed me and made me say "I can't wait until I get home from work to log in!".  Instead I constantly force myself to log in and do some stuff and when I've logged out I feel like I wasted time as I didn't have any fun moments, just random accomplishments.

 

I'm mostly a PvPer although I do tend to complete all the PvE in MMOs. In this case the PvP is so uninteresting it is shocking. WvWvW is so boring I just can't believe it. I loved DAoC and I thought this would be the main/best feature in GW2. But instead it is just a snooze fest of one large group attacking another large group at the same location for an hour or two. Occasionally someone actually takes a keep, but so what?

 

Sadly I expected this from GW2 but I bought it to see what the game was like and because I like to keep up to date on MMOs. Overall I think it was a big waste of money.

 

 

At the same time I bought CS:GO for $15 (no store involved either) and I've had many hours of true fun and enjoyment in that where as the game that cost me $60 I've had none.

 

That is my current view on GW2.

  User Deleted
9/18/12 10:15:31 AM#171
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

At no point has GW2 grabbed me and made me say "I can't wait until I get home from work to log in!".  Instead I constantly force myself to log in and do some stuff and when I've logged out I feel like I wasted time as I didn't have any fun moments, just random accomplishments.

If you haven't quit by now, you have a serious problem - and I doubt it's only related to GW2.

I'm still waiting for any rational and valid reason from any of the "ex-DAoC" fans here about why DAoC's RvR was so much better than GW2. I think I'm going to wait a long time... specially since they can't fool me considering I've played DAoC too.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
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9/18/12 10:15:41 AM#172
Originally posted by Lorkii
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25

One of my favorite games ever is shadowbane, another is Planetside1 and now 2, DAOC, was my all time favorite, and guess what you never had much gear grind in it s early years, it had a quest chain to end level to get an Epic set of gear. As you can see, These aren t gear grind games, well DAOC sorta did, but not really, shadowbane not really, there was farming to do, but no different then harvesting. Planetside has none at all, advancement in levels and certs. I went into GW2 hoping it had WvW at least 10% as good as DAOC RvR, or Planetside, nope not even close. I was hoping DEs improved the experience of leveling, and I can safely say to me anyways, it has made it worse.

Now that I ve shown I really don t care if I gear grind, I can safely say, in the last 10 years GW2 is the worst MMO experience I ve had, and I ve tried alot of games. It s simply that 1. It was overhyped beyond beleif. 2. It s not as revolutionary as some like to think. and 3. Some people are just not going to like it. Simple as that.

Awesome I applaude you for number 3.

However, I dislike many games but I don't spend 90 percent of my discussions in those forums. Have you looked at your history? We get it, you don't like GW2.

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  TdogSkal

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9/18/12 10:17:37 AM#173

I am having a blast.

Lvl 80 necromancer.  Love the class even with the bugged minions and some traits.  

WvW is fun, need to get more into it.

Dungeons are the greatest thing in a long time, they are hard, they take teamwork and that is perfect.

I have 50% of the map explored, so got much more to do. 

Got one crafting profession to 386, so almost to 400 and need to work on the other profession which is around 100 or so.

Crafting bags with tailoring is crazy expensive right now, takes over 2 gold to create an 18 slot bag which only sells for 2gold and 11 silver,  so not worth it at all right now.  I wish they would change this or people would realize that you need to make a larger profit then 9 silver.

 

Overall this game has given me the feeling that I got when I started MMOs with EQ1.  The feeling of being a part of a larger world, most newer MMOs always made me feel like a small God in the world.

Sooner or Later

  MosesZD

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9/18/12 10:20:26 AM#174
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Lorkii

One of my favorite games ever is shadowbane, another is Planetside1 and now 2, DAOC, was my all time favorite, and guess what you never had much gear grind in it s early years, it had a quest chain to end level to get an Epic set of gear. As you can see, These aren t gear grind games, well DAOC sorta did, but not really, shadowbane not really, there was farming to do, but no different then harvesting. Planetside has none at all, advancement in levels and certs. I went into GW2 hoping it had WvW at least 10% as good as DAOC RvR, or Planetside, nope not even close. I was hoping DEs improved the experience of leveling, and I can safely say to me anyways, it has made it worse.

Now that I ve shown I really don t care if I gear grind, I can safely say, in the last 10 years GW2 is the worst MMO experience I ve had, and I ve tried alot of games. It s simply that 1. It was overhyped beyond beleif. 2. It s not as revolutionary as some like to think. and 3. Some people are just not going to like it. Simple as that.

And in all those years, you still didn't manage to learn the difference between "many" and "all".

But while we are at it, please tell me what made DAoC "RvR" so much better than GW2 "W3". I've played both too, so don't try to fool me, please give me an honest answer.

 

I swear it's become the MMO-gamer 'cool kids' thing.   Throw out Vanguard and DAoC for some insta-MMO-street-cred...   At this point in time I think more people have claimed to have played those games than actually played them...

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9/18/12 10:20:49 AM#175
Originally posted by TdogSkal

Crafting bags with tailoring is crazy expensive right now, takes over 2 gold to create an 18 slot bag which only sells for 2gold and 11 silver,  so not worth it at all right now.  I wish they would change this or people would realize that you need to make a larger profit then 9 silver.

Agreed, anything above 12 slots is insanely expensive - but personally, I've never run out of bag space with my full 12 slot geared main (without any additional bag slots of course). I don't feel like character inventory space is a big problem in this game. I've bought two bank extensions though.

  Tenkousei

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9/18/12 10:21:37 AM#176

Hit 80 yesterday and i'm trying to figure out what i'm supposed to do. I figured i'd start farming karma for the 42K gear as i don't have the time to go and farm tokens in EM dungeons (i can't afford to spend 2 - 3 hours in dungeons).  The combat is getting on my nerves though, pressing four keys gets boring fast. I wish they'd change the system to something that is more like TERA (i know a lot of people don't like that style of combat, but to me it's the best on the market).

Still need to finish my story quest though.

  halflife25

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9/18/12 10:22:05 AM#177
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

So i imagined this post by you?

 

...

I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

You are clearly trying to imply here that only people who are geting bored of WOW are people addicted to grind. And when called out on this generalization you suddenly change your tune and even include sandbox MMO players into this 'bored' category.

I have started to see this pattern in your psot where you keep changing goal posts to make your point.  

If you can point me to the part of my post where I said those people where the only ones getting bored with GW2, then you will have a point. Until then, you are fighting windmills. I remain convinced that those deeply stuck into the "WoW clone" endgame gear grind are the majority of those who can't adapt to GW2. I never said they were the only ones.

Your agenda is pretty obvious considering your post history btw - you trying to lecture people like me or Amjoco is quite funny.

And that agenda would be? Not everyone who is fanatically in love with GW2 has an agenda ;). Sorry but it is not just black or white. There are people like me who are in the middle...the grey area.

I can also comment on your post history but i rather not. ;)  i am fan not a fanatic..big difference.

You clearly implied with your post that you are convinced (pretty sure of yourself) that the people who get bored with GW2 are those who can't let WOW clone gear carrot model go. I think what you wrote is pretty clear in itself.

I mean what are the chances that even people who have no inteerst in WOW could also get bored of GW2? but you clearly forgot to mentioned that untill someone else pointed out your narrow mindedness by asking 'what about sandbox players'.

Also somehow you are under impression that by disliking your obnoxious posts i am anti-GW. 

*rolls eyes*

  TdogSkal

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9/18/12 10:22:14 AM#178
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

At no point has GW2 grabbed me and made me say "I can't wait until I get home from work to log in!".  Instead I constantly force myself to log in and do some stuff and when I've logged out I feel like I wasted time as I didn't have any fun moments, just random accomplishments.

If you haven't quit by now, you have a serious problem - and I doubt it's only related to GW2.

I'm still waiting for any rational and valid reason from any of the "ex-DAoC" fans here about why DAoC's RvR was so much better than GW2. I think I'm going to wait a long time... specially since they can't fool me considering I've played DAoC too.

Well I never played DAOC but from what I have heard and seen in video's  DAOC RvR is better than GW2 WvW for a simple reason.  The reason is that WvW Resets every few days/weeks and DAOC RvR was not reset.

I could be wrong but that is what I think the main reason is.  In DAOC RvR if your side took a keep, it was your keep till someone took it back.  In GW2 WvW if your side takes a keep, it is yours until you lose it or the WvW is reset.

Sooner or Later

  Zeus.CM

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9/18/12 10:23:56 AM#179

A month already? Well time goes faster when you are having fun I guess :)

I'm roughly at 50% of the content so still plenty to do. Once I get 100% I'm making alts of other races to see their story.

By that time I hope expansion will come, until then WvW and PvP will be my friends. I might even try getting a legendary.

  Amjoco

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9/18/12 10:26:09 AM#180
Originally posted by Tenkousei

Hit 80 yesterday and i'm trying to figure out what i'm supposed to do. I figured i'd start farming karma for the 42K gear as i don't have the time to go and farm tokens in EM dungeons (i can't afford to spend 2 - 3 hours in dungeons).  The combat is getting on my nerves though, pressing four keys gets boring fast. I wish they'd change the system to something that is more like TERA (i know a lot of people don't like that style of combat, but to me it's the best on the market).

Still need to finish my story quest though.

Just a little article that might help you. There isn't a lot of reading and he may give you a couple ideas. 

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