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  Hodo

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9/18/12 2:20:47 PM#41
Originally posted by Drigus

Bath salts? What...

 

Horrible use of a title.

 

So what the reviewer is telling me, I dont want to play this game because it will make me see peoples face melting off and I will want to get naked and run through the streets of Orlando and eat some guys face/

So much crap, so little quality.

  lizardbones

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9/18/12 2:54:41 PM#42


Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower I can't figure out if people are genuinly upset about the reference, or if they are just bored out of their asses thinking 'what can I take the moral high ground on today' then pick something random like this. What's the matter?... no hitler or rape references going on, you can bitch about today?    
I would say I'm disappointed more than anything. The idea is that Bath Salts are "cool" and so the game is "cool" because it's related to Bath Salts. Bath Salts are product that is being sold as a safe drug in tobacco shops and convenience stores and it's killing people. It's bad enough that it can kill people, some of these people are suffering and their families are suffering for days or weeks and the doctors cannot treat the effects of these drugs. My reference in the post above about people's brains getting cooked was not made up or exagerated. They lose the ability to regulate their body temperature, so while they are going insane, their body cooks itself. Maybe they are going insane because their brain is being cooked. Their internal organs gradually lose the ability to function and eventually their brains die. If one of these people did survive, they wouldn't be people any longer. They certainly wouldn't be functional. Except nobody survives that particular random side effect. I'm not sure why anyone would be happy with the reference and if it was my game, I wouldn't be happy with my game being compared to something that occassionally killed people with horrific side effects.  
People have been making 'crack' references for years and nobody cares. You are exactly the type my post refer to
How does it escape you that words aren't just a bunch of random sounds and that they actually convey meaning? What game developer is going to be happy when the random bunch of sounds conveys a negative connotation towards their game?  
Since it doesn't affect me the slightest, same as you. But feel free to roam around being PC and all that just for the sake of doing it.
Since you ignored the question, I'll ask again. Where are the articles on this site, referencing the drug crack as it relates to games in a positive light? In what way is comparing the game to Bath Salts a positive statement? It doesn't even make sense trying to relate them in a literal manner. The drug either gives people a sense of euphoria, it drives them insane or it kills them. It was a poor choice of words for a website that gives professional reviews and overviews of games. ** edit ** Odd that the meaning conveyed in the title of the article doesn't affect you, but the meaning conveyed in my words does.  
I don't recall ever writing that this site has had an article using a crack reference. There are however many gaming sites who have used one in the past. Just doing a quick google search http://www.onrpg.com/MMO/MicroVolts/review/Microvolts-Toy-Story-on-Crack

Using a reference of something being addictive as crack has and still is common place around the internet. This article is a play off of that substituting the word 'crack' for 'bathsalts', simply because bathsalts is an internet MEME after a certain episode already mentioned. Crack has caused more deaths than something as passe as bathsalts ever will

 

Now the problem I have with you and people like you is, this doesn't affect you one bit but you sure can plead a case for it. I halfway expected you to come up with a story where your mothers sisters best friends child got a hold of some and how this affected you on a personal level, but I guess that is yet to come by you or somebody else, made up or not just to make a point.

As I said before, you are crusading about something that has no effect on you at all simply for the reason 'because you can'.




Wow, I'm crusading. What am I crusading for, exactly? What changes have I requested? Any?

The misuse of "Crack" in the popular vernacular justifies the use of "Bath Salts"? That is a poor use of logic. Using one term doesn't give another term positive connotations.

It's a poor choice of words. It has negative connotations and it doesn't even make sense. Bath Salts aren't addictive, they don't make you feel stronger or more active. They either give you a mild sense of euphoria, in rare cases permanently break part of your mind or in even rarer cases kill you by literally cooking your brain.

You have a habit of ignoring questions, so I'll ask this again. How is the use of the term "Bath Salts" positive in relation to this video game?

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

9/18/12 2:58:55 PM#43
This thread is like forum PvP on Scotchguard.
  Stizzled

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Posts: 1081

Kill Your Heroes

9/18/12 3:01:34 PM#44
Wow, five pages later and you guys are still going off about the bath salts comment? You people are on crack.

  WhiteLantern

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Joined: 1/27/10
Posts: 2782

9/18/12 3:07:12 PM#45

Originally posted by Eir_S
This thread is like forum PvP on Scotchguard.

Still trying to connect the dots here. I know what Scotchguard is, and I can't wrap my head around it.

/explode

Originally posted by Stizzled
Wow, five pages later and you guys are still going off about the bath salts comment? You people are on crack.

No, you obviously havn't been paying attention. They're on bath salts.

 

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

9/18/12 3:14:14 PM#46

Scotchgard was something a bunch of kids huffed through cloth to get high some years back.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-01-01/news/9201010110_1_inhalants-scotchgard-sniffing

The only reason people are offended by the title is that bath salts are a RECENT problem.  Even though crack is far more dangerous, people say "Blank - on crack" and "World of Warcrack" and no one seems to care because it's old news.  Talk about splitting hairs.

  WhiteLantern

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9/18/12 3:17:11 PM#47
Originally posted by Eir_S

Scotchgard was something a bunch of kids huffed through cloth to get high some years back.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-01-01/news/9201010110_1_inhalants-scotchgard-sniffing

The only reason people are offended by the title is that bath salts are a RECENT problem.  Even though crack is far more dangerous, people say "Blank - on crack" and "World of Warcrack" and no one seems to care because it's old news.  Talk about splitting hairs.

AH! Silly kids and their non-conforming methods of getting high. All we had back in my day was weed............aand whiteout.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

9/18/12 3:17:43 PM#48
"I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue!"
  Dakirn

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9/18/12 3:22:12 PM#49

What amazes me is THIS kind of silly stuff sets people off but those same people are okay ripping on game companies, wishing for developers to be homeless and for their dogs to get hit by cars.

  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
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I think with my heart and move with my head.-Kongos

9/18/12 4:02:54 PM#50


Originally posted by Eir_S
Scotchgard was something a bunch of kids huffed through cloth to get high some years back.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-01-01/news/9201010110_1_inhalants-scotchgard-sniffing

The only reason people are offended by the title is that bath salts are a RECENT problem.  Even though crack is far more dangerous, people say "Blank - on crack" and "World of Warcrack" and no one seems to care because it's old news.  Talk about splitting hairs.




"World of Warcrack" and "Evercrack" were not positive comments on those games. "Crack" was used as a negative comment on the games and communicated the addictive nature of the games. It also communicated the destructive nature of the games for some people.

"Bath Salts" is being used as a positive comment on the game Hawken. How is "Bath Salts" a positive comment on the game? A large part of the reason this website exists is to communicate through the written word. It's their job. They chose a poor set of words to communicate how much fun Hawken is because they included all the negative ideas associated with the words, "Bath Salts".

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  StonesDK

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9/18/12 4:13:26 PM#51
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower I can't figure out if people are genuinly upset about the reference, or if they are just bored out of their asses thinking 'what can I take the moral high ground on today' then pick something random like this. What's the matter?... no hitler or rape references going on, you can bitch about today?    
I would say I'm disappointed more than anything. The idea is that Bath Salts are "cool" and so the game is "cool" because it's related to Bath Salts. Bath Salts are product that is being sold as a safe drug in tobacco shops and convenience stores and it's killing people. It's bad enough that it can kill people, some of these people are suffering and their families are suffering for days or weeks and the doctors cannot treat the effects of these drugs. My reference in the post above about people's brains getting cooked was not made up or exagerated. They lose the ability to regulate their body temperature, so while they are going insane, their body cooks itself. Maybe they are going insane because their brain is being cooked. Their internal organs gradually lose the ability to function and eventually their brains die. If one of these people did survive, they wouldn't be people any longer. They certainly wouldn't be functional. Except nobody survives that particular random side effect. I'm not sure why anyone would be happy with the reference and if it was my game, I wouldn't be happy with my game being compared to something that occassionally killed people with horrific side effects.  
People have been making 'crack' references for years and nobody cares. You are exactly the type my post refer to
How does it escape you that words aren't just a bunch of random sounds and that they actually convey meaning? What game developer is going to be happy when the random bunch of sounds conveys a negative connotation towards their game?  
Since it doesn't affect me the slightest, same as you. But feel free to roam around being PC and all that just for the sake of doing it.
Since you ignored the question, I'll ask again. Where are the articles on this site, referencing the drug crack as it relates to games in a positive light? In what way is comparing the game to Bath Salts a positive statement? It doesn't even make sense trying to relate them in a literal manner. The drug either gives people a sense of euphoria, it drives them insane or it kills them. It was a poor choice of words for a website that gives professional reviews and overviews of games. ** edit ** Odd that the meaning conveyed in the title of the article doesn't affect you, but the meaning conveyed in my words does.  
I don't recall ever writing that this site has had an article using a crack reference. There are however many gaming sites who have used one in the past. Just doing a quick google search http://www.onrpg.com/MMO/MicroVolts/review/Microvolts-Toy-Story-on-Crack

 

Using a reference of something being addictive as crack has and still is common place around the internet. This article is a play off of that substituting the word 'crack' for 'bathsalts', simply because bathsalts is an internet MEME after a certain episode already mentioned. Crack has caused more deaths than something as passe as bathsalts ever will

 

Now the problem I have with you and people like you is, this doesn't affect you one bit but you sure can plead a case for it. I halfway expected you to come up with a story where your mothers sisters best friends child got a hold of some and how this affected you on a personal level, but I guess that is yet to come by you or somebody else, made up or not just to make a point.

As I said before, you are crusading about something that has no effect on you at all simply for the reason 'because you can'.




You have a habit of ignoring questions, so I'll ask this again. How is the use of the term "Bath Salts" positive in relation to this video game?

 

I just ignore the stupid ones, like this strawman one.

  StanlyStanko

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9/18/12 4:22:40 PM#52
You guys just need to split a nice plate of salts and chill out
  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10953

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9/18/12 5:35:56 PM#53


Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Starpower I can't figure out if people are genuinly upset about the reference, or if they are just bored out of their asses thinking 'what can I take the moral high ground on today' then pick something random like this. What's the matter?... no hitler or rape references going on, you can bitch about today?    
I would say I'm disappointed more than anything. The idea is that Bath Salts are "cool" and so the game is "cool" because it's related to Bath Salts. Bath Salts are product that is being sold as a safe drug in tobacco shops and convenience stores and it's killing people. It's bad enough that it can kill people, some of these people are suffering and their families are suffering for days or weeks and the doctors cannot treat the effects of these drugs. My reference in the post above about people's brains getting cooked was not made up or exagerated. They lose the ability to regulate their body temperature, so while they are going insane, their body cooks itself. Maybe they are going insane because their brain is being cooked. Their internal organs gradually lose the ability to function and eventually their brains die. If one of these people did survive, they wouldn't be people any longer. They certainly wouldn't be functional. Except nobody survives that particular random side effect. I'm not sure why anyone would be happy with the reference and if it was my game, I wouldn't be happy with my game being compared to something that occassionally killed people with horrific side effects.  
People have been making 'crack' references for years and nobody cares. You are exactly the type my post refer to
How does it escape you that words aren't just a bunch of random sounds and that they actually convey meaning? What game developer is going to be happy when the random bunch of sounds conveys a negative connotation towards their game?  
Since it doesn't affect me the slightest, same as you. But feel free to roam around being PC and all that just for the sake of doing it.
Since you ignored the question, I'll ask again. Where are the articles on this site, referencing the drug crack as it relates to games in a positive light? In what way is comparing the game to Bath Salts a positive statement? It doesn't even make sense trying to relate them in a literal manner. The drug either gives people a sense of euphoria, it drives them insane or it kills them. It was a poor choice of words for a website that gives professional reviews and overviews of games. ** edit ** Odd that the meaning conveyed in the title of the article doesn't affect you, but the meaning conveyed in my words does.  
I don't recall ever writing that this site has had an article using a crack reference. There are however many gaming sites who have used one in the past. Just doing a quick google search http://www.onrpg.com/MMO/MicroVolts/review/Microvolts-Toy-Story-on-Crack   Using a reference of something being addictive as crack has and still is common place around the internet. This article is a play off of that substituting the word 'crack' for 'bathsalts', simply because bathsalts is an internet MEME after a certain episode already mentioned. Crack has caused more deaths than something as passe as bathsalts ever will   Now the problem I have with you and people like you is, this doesn't affect you one bit but you sure can plead a case for it. I halfway expected you to come up with a story where your mothers sisters best friends child got a hold of some and how this affected you on a personal level, but I guess that is yet to come by you or somebody else, made up or not just to make a point. As I said before, you are crusading about something that has no effect on you at all simply for the reason 'because you can'.
You have a habit of ignoring questions, so I'll ask this again. How is the use of the term "Bath Salts" positive in relation to this video game?  
I just ignore the stupid ones, like this strawman one.



If the term "Bath Salts" carries a positive message, what is it? If it's a positive message in relation to the game, what is it? How is that a Strawman?

"Bath Salts" as a phrase is either confusing, because the reader doesn't know what the article is referring to, or it's being misused, because it's not a complementary term. The review is complementary towards the game. It either doesn't make sense or it's a bad reference.

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  Stizzled

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9/18/12 5:47:20 PM#54
Originally posted by lizardbones


"Bath Salts" as a phrase is either confusing, because the reader doesn't know what the article is referring to, or it's being misused, because it's not a complementary term. The review is complementary towards the game. It either doesn't make sense or it's a bad reference.

 

What does it matter? I knew what they meant, you knew what they meant, and I'm guessing that most people knew exactly what MMORPG.com meant when they read it, there's no confusion. Your just arguing semantics for the sake of arguing. If it really offends you that much then take it up in PMs with the mods. Arguing with random posters is pointless.

  Silax

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9/18/12 9:45:12 PM#55

If this is going to be at least close to Multiplayer BattleTech: 3025 then it's on like Donkey Kong.

edit: Incidentally, "it's on like Donkey Kong" is not a drug reference.

  guy232

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9/19/12 7:08:09 PM#56
To be honest both game look like they will be a bit of a let down....I mean   it seems like everyone is going for the  (generic FPS Arena shooter)  look  and just slapped  mech skins on it


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  guy232

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9/19/12 7:11:38 PM#57
I drop down to my KNEES and HOPE  that the new  HeavyGear game gets it right......its my last  hope  honestly, Spent sooo many hours on that game.  


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  Tuchaka

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11/04/12 4:48:55 PM#58
ya bath salts is so funny to joke around about i mean its not like people ARE DROPPING LIKE FLIES FROM TAKING THIS STUFF. Oh wait they are and this is something to joke around about, nothing so frustrating as trying to explain the value of human life to someone who just doesn't get it, so i am not gonna bother.
  OG_Zorvan

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11/04/12 6:31:11 PM#59
Originally posted by floreairfoot

You had me at "bath salts" lol.

 

Keep an eye on the news people and maybe you'll enjoy the jokes too.

 

I haven't seen anything regarding bath salts that was even remotely funny.

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  aRtFuLThinG

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11/04/12 7:13:19 PM#60

Bath salts is a confusing reference because it is not even a performance enhancing drugs (in fact it is "dumbing"). It is like saying Mechwarrior on ganja. Who the hell wants that??

 

Should've said "Mechwarrior on steriods", "Mechwarrior on HRT" or "Mechwarrior on viagra".

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