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Reviews & Impressions  » GW2 is just too..."tralala, smell the roses"

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  SimonVDH

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Joined: 3/02/12
Posts: 109

9/13/12 6:23:49 PM#41
Puffy, my teddy bear, says the game is very mature! And he knows what he's talking about, he plays it with me all the time.
  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 2467

9/13/12 6:24:39 PM#42

Personally I have played years of WoW and that art style is even more comical/childish than GW2. I don't care if they made all the races animated stick people, as long as there was a lot of contetent, fun, and social it doesn't matter.

I agree with a previous poster also. How can you buy a game and not look at what it stands for before purchasing it. OP, good luck buying your next car, and I hope you never have to buy a parachute.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  fiontar

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9/13/12 6:28:35 PM#43
Originally posted by wrightstuf

 I wanted to get into the game. I really did. It just seems like too cutsey, sissy, kiddie game. For what it does, it does well I guess. TSW has spoiled me with a mature, gritty feel that GW2 just doesnt have. I mean, come on. We're adults already (at least most are i think),  Maybe its the fantasy theme that's been beat to death that's doing it.

Ok, rant over...you may now proceed to bash me

Let me guess, you played the game to level 5 as an Asura before deciding this? If you even played the game at all? Some posts are too ridiculous to debate and this is one of them.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  User Deleted
9/13/12 6:28:43 PM#44
Originally posted by Amjoco

OP, good luck buying your next car, and I hope you never have to buy a parachute.

Parachute?

  User Deleted
9/13/12 6:29:58 PM#45
Originally posted by fiontar

Let me guess, you played the game to level 5 as an Asura before deciding this? If you even played the game at all? Some posts are too ridiculous to debate and this is one of them.

What's wrong with the Asura?

  Amjoco

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9/13/12 6:33:14 PM#46
Originally posted by Enigmatus
Originally posted by Amjoco

OP, good luck buying your next car, and I hope you never have to buy a parachute.

Parachute?

If he didn't take the time to check out the game before he found out what it was about, he would probably make the same mistake with a parachute. Either way, the premise was he needs to look at things carefully before buying them.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 2204

9/13/12 6:33:26 PM#47
Originally posted by redman875

I really wish the GW2 fans would drop the ultra-defensive insults and attacks on people who dislike parts of the game.

I mean really...especially since so much of the GW2 community was trolling other games and bashing them...its just so...i dunno juvenile of a reaction.

 

So what...you guys really expect everyone to love the game and everyone who doesnt has some sort of agenda or something..or just is wrong on their opinions?

 

Big deal people think a high-fantasy game with a child like race and furry character is childish....

 Many people who do not like the game have legit reasons, like any other game opinions on it will vary. Others are just phonies who started MMORPG.COM accounts at just the right time to bash GW2. Those people are trolling.

  User Deleted
9/13/12 6:36:30 PM#48
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Enigmatus
Originally posted by Amjoco

OP, good luck buying your next car, and I hope you never have to buy a parachute.

Parachute?

If he didn't take the time to check out the game before he found out what it was about, he would probably make the same mistake with a parachute. Either way, the premise was he needs to look at things carefully before buying them.

Ah, point is good.

  Ginaz

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Joined: 4/01/07
Posts: 1337

9/13/12 7:01:32 PM#49
Originally posted by evolver1972

Ok, so, you think the game is lame, or kiddy or whatever.  Got it.  My opinion is that it's fun and great entertainment.  Then again, I think that of some (some!) Disney movies as well.  I also think that Saw and 300 are fun and entertaining, too.  And Schindler's List is a freakin' tear-jerking masterpiece.  But, I digress....

 

I don't really understand, though, why so many people feel the need to come on here and bash the game (yes, you are bashing the game when you call it cutsey, sissy, and kiddie).  If you don't like it, fine.  Go pay your $15/month on TSW.  Honestly, I'd play TSW if it weren't for the monthly fee because it does look very cool.  I'd say the same about WoW.  All three games are very cool in different ways, I think.  I don't understand the need to bash any of them, though, because the art design or the style aren't to your liking.  I would expect adults to be able to not have that need.

The point of forums like this is to discuss MMOs, good points AND bad.  This isn't a place where only the shiny happy people get to say how great their favourite MMO is.


OH MY GOD WE'RE SURROUNDED! SEND FOR BACKUP! DIG IN DEFENSIVE POSITIONS! MAN YOUR NECKBEARDS!!!

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  Thornz2000

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9/13/12 7:04:35 PM#50
I did not even want to try TSW due to the name of the unspoken evil ... FUNCOM

The world we know is going away http://www.graystatemovie.com/
Look up Agenda 21 as well.

  evolver1972

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Joined: 3/18/11
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What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

9/13/12 7:08:33 PM#51
Originally posted by Ginaz
Originally posted by evolver1972

Ok, so, you think the game is lame, or kiddy or whatever.  Got it.  My opinion is that it's fun and great entertainment.  Then again, I think that of some (some!) Disney movies as well.  I also think that Saw and 300 are fun and entertaining, too.  And Schindler's List is a freakin' tear-jerking masterpiece.  But, I digress....

 

I don't really understand, though, why so many people feel the need to come on here and bash the game (yes, you are bashing the game when you call it cutsey, sissy, and kiddie).  If you don't like it, fine.  Go pay your $15/month on TSW.  Honestly, I'd play TSW if it weren't for the monthly fee because it does look very cool.  I'd say the same about WoW.  All three games are very cool in different ways, I think.  I don't understand the need to bash any of them, though, because the art design or the style aren't to your liking.  I would expect adults to be able to not have that need.

The point of forums like this is to discuss MMOs, good points AND bad.  This isn't a place where only the shiny happy people get to say how great their favourite MMO is.

I agree, if people are making valid arguments.  But calling a game childish and sissy because you don't like it is nothing more than bashing the game, IMO.  Just like only saying "this game is AWESOME" is really just shilling for the game.

 

Please, people, put some thought into your posts.

 

If you think the gameplay sucks, ok fine, feel free to state why, and I'll feel free to argue my opinion.  If you don't like the style, fine.  Come here, act like an adult, and say your criticisms and explain why.  But don't get upset if you just call a game that many people like "sissy" and "childish" and expect they won't call you on your own childishness and bridge guarding tendencies.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 2092

Who ever said "Familiarity breeds contempt" didn't have an internet connection.

9/13/12 7:31:58 PM#52
Originally posted by Thornz2000
I did not even want to try TSW due to the name of the unspoken evil ... FUNCOM

The true horror behind the game

If the conversation turned "Tit-for-Tat", and I've stopped posting, Consider it your win.

  User Deleted
9/13/12 7:38:53 PM#53
If you put more meat behind your thoughts on GW2, people might be more willing to listen to what you have to say. Just saying "This game is so and so" and not even bother to give even a very shallow reason makes it seem like you are bashing for the sake of bashing, which benefits neither the people who DO enjoy the game, and the people who are wary of or don't like the game.
  Meowhead

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Joined: 1/31/09
Posts: 3384

9/13/12 8:22:16 PM#54
Originally posted by wrightstuf

 I wanted to get into the game. I really did. It just seems like too cutsey, sissy, kiddie game. For what it does, it does well I guess. TSW has spoiled me with a mature, gritty feel that GW2 just doesnt have. I mean, come on. We're adults already (at least most are i think),  Maybe its the fantasy theme that's been beat to death that's doing it.

Ok, rant over...you may now proceed to bash me

The part in green makes me stare at you doubtfully about the part in red.

... I thought people stopped calling people sissies around the point in time they were old enough to get the training wheels off their bikes.

It's a ridiculous insult.  Calling people a sissy doesn't make you mature, and it makes me doubt your opinion on everything else. :)

  Krasnij

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Joined: 9/20/04
Posts: 38

9/14/12 3:32:29 AM#55
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

You sir, are a nincompoop,

OMg lol havent heard that one for years, reminds me of south africa :-)

  maji

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Posts: 1724

9/14/12 3:37:54 AM#56

Of course it's a friendly colorful game. Just look at any screenshot and you'll see it. That's why I switch to Fallen Earth every now and then. It's a nice contrast.

 

Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 265 episodes)

Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  MurlockDance

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Joined: 6/20/10
Posts: 923

9/14/12 4:32:36 AM#57

Sometimes I do really find people miss the forest for the trees.

Someone brought up pandas as being for kids. Pandas are just an animal, that is that.

WoW is cutsey and immature? They obviously have not looked closely at the storylines in many, many areas of the game. Sure there are some cute things, immature or kiddy quests (like looking through animal poo to find keys) but then there are some deeply disturbing quests too (quests involving torture, raising of villages, betrayal, corruption at the highest levels, embezzlement, etc.). Don't confuse a bright and colorful artstyle for being intended exclusively for kids! The genius behind the WoW world is that it has a broad audience and there is something for everyone in it much like the best stories and movies.

I just got GW2, so can't say about it yet, but so far it does not strike me as sissy, kiddy, or cutsey, but then I rolled in the Norn area.

Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.

  Fozzik

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Posts: 542

9/14/12 5:57:02 AM#58

This thread reeks of quality.


The "I reject and ridicule all things female" mentality will end pretty soon when you hit puberty or get your first girlfriend. Girls really aren't that scary, I promise.


A game doesn't have to be filled with artificial, stereotypical machismo in order to be "mature" or "manly". Real men don't have the insecurities that those needs illustrate.


The game is about exploration, completionism, and choice. It's the most "mature" MMORPG to come along in a long time...not because it shows boobies or talks about rape constantly...but instead because the mechanics don't constantly hold your hand. There are complex choices that have permanent consequences and a lot of depth and life to the world. Actual adults, not adolescents who feel a need to act like what they think an adult acts like, can appreciate what GW2 offers.

  Manolios

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9/14/12 6:02:57 AM#59
Originally posted by Izik
Just another 1 month themepark

the lack of a sub will make it last longer but its really a 1 month mmo

  Fozzik

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Posts: 542

9/14/12 6:08:02 AM#60

Turns out if you rush through the game ignoring most of the things there are to do, and only play for one month, it's a one month game.


For people who feel that way, thanks ever so much for contributing ~$60 to the ongoing development of a game I will happily play for years, without continuing to clutter up my chat channels or servers with your nonsensical complaints about the lack of an endgame you understand.

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