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  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:05:11 AM#121
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Eir_S

How did I know there would be people in this thread acting like 2 million sales is a bad thing?

Seriously, just stop, it's embarrassing.  Way to go, ANet.

Interesting. I found an old quote from you...on SWTOR forums

 

Originally posted by Eir_S
Exactly.  This is the kind of thing I'd want to see too.  Pre-orders aren't indicative of game quality, nor how many people will stick around after the first month megabuzz of a huge new world to explore.  But by then, most people won't care about numbers, or threads about numbers."I don't care" should be an option.  Launch numbers have never been a good indicator of whether a game will last.
Guess you have changed your mind when it comes to GW2.

I'm not seeing the correlation between the two threads. In the first thread she is discussing how others thought 2 million copies wasn't much and the next one you dug out of history is talking about the quality of a game. 

 

Agreed, it's a stretch.  A desperate stretch.

El Psy Congroo

  Nikkita

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Joined: 11/25/10
Posts: 830

9/13/12 10:06:27 AM#122
Originally posted by Z3R01
its kind of creepy that you would search through the guys post history... 

I didn't. Got the metacritic and pre order sales topic bookmarked. Makes avery interesting reading after 6 months or so and obviously some people forget their posting history too often.


Bite Me

  User Deleted
9/13/12 10:06:40 AM#123
I'm glad I bought it, but I'm not sure anymore that its got the staying power I initially thought it had, its not cutting it 100% for me yet
  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4703

GW2 socialist.

9/13/12 10:07:14 AM#124
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Creslin321
 I think that a lot of the posters on here would make very good political campaign workers.  Their ability to find dirt on people by looking at ancient history is unsurpassed ;).

I have a 20 page of very interesting  SWTOR topic bookmarked, i don't even need to go through posting history because some posters have been imprinted on my mind because they were in fore front of putting SWTOR down inon every given oppertunity. 

But obviously you got nothign to say about the actual hypocricy that i just pointed out because obviously it doesn't suit your argument. Gotto keep the status quo on forums.

Huh?  It doesn't even suit YOUR argument.  Stop stalking my posts and then trying to use them out of context.

  Amjoco

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Posts: 3928

9/13/12 10:07:59 AM#125
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Nadia

its selling faster than i expected

i didnt think Guild Wars would sell more than 3 million by the end of this year -- 3 months from launch

On top of that, they had digital sales shut off for a week with a lot of stores sold out.

As harsh a critic as I am of this game I agree with this, let's give it another month or two to see if the shut down caused a little bump in the road.

However since I have to keep my reputation as a GW2 hater intact, while 2 million and counting is an impressive number, I'm still betting (much to my never ending disgust) that MoP's sales numbers are going to roll over these like the Jun Horde.

Man o man! Tardcore did you have sex? You seem to be slipping a bit.  lol

I also agree that MoP will outsell GW2. It is just common sense that many folks will want to continue the WoW adventure.  I will be buying a copy myself!

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Tardcore

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Joined: 9/13/09
Posts: 2370

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to post."

9/13/12 10:08:47 AM#126
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Z3R01
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Eir_S

How did I know there would be people in this thread acting like 2 million sales is a bad thing?

Seriously, just stop, it's embarrassing.  Way to go, ANet.

Interesting. I found an old quote from you...on SWTOR forums

 

Originally posted by Eir_S
Exactly.  This is the kind of thing I'd want to see too.  Pre-orders aren't indicative of game quality, nor how many people will stick around after the first month megabuzz of a huge new world to explore.  But by then, most people won't care about numbers, or threads about numbers."I don't care" should be an option.  Launch numbers have never been a good indicator of whether a game will last.
Guess you have changed your mind when it comes to GW2.

No, I still believe exactly what I wrote.  What I said in this thread is not the opposite of what I said in that one, for starters.

You down played sales of SWTOR by saying that pre orders and launch numbers mean nothing while here you are getting upset that haters are trying to down play 2 million sales for GW2.

So what exactly you still believe in?

its kind of creepy that you would search through the guys post history... 

 I think that a lot of the posters on here would make very good political campaign workers.  Their ability to find dirt on people by looking at ancient history is unsurpassed ;).

I'm sorry but you Sir are a person I would advise others to ignore due to that little incident involving the theft of a packet of bubble gum when you were three and a half years old.

"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "

  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11552

9/13/12 10:09:08 AM#127
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Since GW2 includes prepurchase numbers from months prior to release in this "two week" period (lol), I wonder if we include prepurchases for MoP if the WoW expansion has ALREADY outsold GW2 before it even is released :)

Blizzard already does this

 

when Blizzard anounced "launch day" sales for WOW Cata - that included a month of presales from Blizzards site

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?id=2847886

*Based on internal company records and reports from key distribution partners. Includes digital pre-sales.

 

when Blizzard announced "launch day" sales for D3, that included 2 months of Presales  (D3 went on sale March 15)

 

when Blizzard announces "launch day" sales for MOP, it will include 2 months of presales (MOP went on sale July 25)

  kadepsyson

Novice Member

Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:10:31 AM#128
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Since GW2 includes prepurchase numbers from months prior to release in this "two week" period (lol), I wonder if we include prepurchases for MoP if the WoW expansion has ALREADY outsold GW2 before it even is released :)

Blizzard already does this

 

when Blizzard anounced "launch day" sales for WOW Cata - that included a month of presales from Blizzards site

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?id=2847886

*Based on internal company records and reports from key distribution partners. Includes digital pre-sales.

 

when Blizzard announced "launch day" sales for D3, that included 2 months of Presales  (D3 went on sale March 15)

 

when Blizzard announces "launch day" sales for MOP, it will include 2 months of presales (MOP went on sale July 25)

Ok good.  So I still wonder, if MoP has already outsold GW2.

El Psy Congroo

  KhinRunite

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Joined: 11/05/10
Posts: 897

9/13/12 10:11:39 AM#129
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Nadia

its selling faster than i expected

i didnt think Guild Wars would sell more than 3 million by the end of this year -- 3 months from launch

On top of that, they had digital sales shut off for a week with a lot of stores sold out.

As harsh a critic as I am of this game I agree with this, let's give it another month or two to see if the shut down caused a little bump in the road.

However since I have to keep my reputation as a GW2 hater intact, while 2 million and counting is an impressive number, I'm still betting (much to my never ending disgust) that MoP's sales numbers are going to roll over these like the Jun Horde.

Man o man! Tardcore did you have sex? You seem to be slipping a bit.  lol

I also agree that MoP will outsell GW2. It is just common sense that many folks will want to continue the WoW adventure.  I will be buying a copy myself!

I too wouldn't be surprised if MoP outsells GW2 at launch, and top XFire at launch for 2 weeks. World of Warcraft and Blizzard are names you simply can't trifle with. Only they can bring about their own demise at this point.

  nolic1

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Joined: 10/01/07
Posts: 673

9/13/12 10:11:46 AM#130
Good job A-net.


To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.

  L0C0Man

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Joined: 1/30/09
Posts: 920

9/13/12 10:13:05 AM#131
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Lethality
Hehe, no. This game isn't mainstream enough... it has a limited appeal, and there are signs that the foundation has cracks in it (endgame, broken designs, balance.)

According to Anet they want to beat WOW in sales and be number one. I think they know for that they have to go for mass appeal hence mainstream.

I don't think GW2 will come close to MoP in sales.  But I'd sure love it if they did.

Since GW2 includes prepurchase numbers from months prior to release in this "two week" period (lol), I wonder if we include prepurchases for MoP if the WoW expansion has ALREADY outsold GW2 before it even is released :)

I see you repeatedly bring this up, but I'm wondering if things would be any different if GW2 decided to open prepurchase 2 weeks before release? It is to my understanding that people who prepurchased early on are guaranteed to have bought the game anyway. They are the same ones who would have set aside the money for GW2 had prepurchase been not yet available. The people who prepurchased before the BWEs and the release date announcement would also have prepurchased regardless of when they were allowed to do so.

You are right in thinking a pre-purchase is a sale.  However, it isn't possible for us to tell if everyone who pre purchased, would have instead purchased normally if pre purchase wasn't available, within two weeks of release.

Which is why I brought up the comparison.  We'll see some numbers from blizzard I'm sure, and comparing the two weeks after for them, to the two weeks after to gw2, will spark some discussion I'm sure.

I thought people were able to cancel their pre-purchase? I've read their testimonials in this very forum. Unless they're lying of course.

Actually some people did cancel their pre-purchases and got a full refund, but there wasn't an automated method to do that, you had to contact support. Actually someone did ask how to cancel it and get a refund on the oficial forums, and an anet representative (forgot which one) answered exactly that.

What can men do against such reckless hate?

  tomwodi

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Joined: 11/14/10
Posts: 52

9/13/12 10:15:59 AM#132
omg, people are acting like children with this "la la la wow sold more la la la"...

LOL dudes, really?

Wow is the Justin Bieber of MMOS, pure markting . Hell remember a propaganda where Tom Cruise talk about WOW. Even Ozzy talk about WOW.

Funny, no one talk about quality, just about numbers. Are you happy with wow sales? Go play WOW then, who cares? We have a solid community.

The only think i know. GW2 is way better than WOW "FOR ME". I don't care about people playing WOW, i don't care people listen Justin Bieber. Not for me.

2 millions is a success. Point.

Nice job anet.
tomwodi Xfire Miniprofile
  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:17:14 AM#133
Originally posted by tomwodi
omg, people are acting like children

Wow is the Justin Bieber of MMOS

I think that sums up what I think of your post quite nicely.

El Psy Congroo

  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11552

9/13/12 10:17:21 AM#134
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Nadia

when Blizzard announces "launch day" sales for MOP, it will include 2 months of presales (MOP went on sale July 25)

Ok good.  So I still wonder, if MoP has already outsold GW2.

i would be surprised if anyone believes MOP will sell less than 2million

MOP will easily outsell GW2 for launch sales

 

what i believe makes GW2 different than past recent mmos, is it will continue to sell well

 

for those that dont remember - it took RIFT 3 months to sell 1 million units

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/rift-approaching-the-one-million-sell-through-mark/

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4703

GW2 socialist.

9/13/12 10:18:03 AM#135
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Amjoco
 

I'm not seeing the correlation between the two threads. In the first thread she is discussing how others thought 2 million copies wasn't much and the next one you dug out of history is talking about the quality of a game. 

 

Let us see. Someone posts sales numbers of SWTOR, in his opinion launch number / sales mean nothing. And when GW2 sales numbers are posted, a lot of so called haters are of same stance that GW2 sales of 2 million means nothing. What else do you think people have been saying?

Red: Something I didn't say.  Sales always mean profit.

Green: Something people in this thread actually did say.

They're not the same stance at all.  What else you got?  Are you going to dig up more posts of mine today? lol

Actually, I don't care.  I'm blocking you for daring to call me out on something and then not being able to make it stick.  You'd be a terrible lawyer.  Have fun being petty to other people.  I'd rather debate about games, not what I supposedly did and didn't say a year ago.

  tawess

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Posts: 2020

9/13/12 10:18:11 AM#136

While i agree with TC that MoP will most likley make these numbers seem tame, it is still one of the best selling games to be released and the B2P model will give it a solid staying power that if they can get a decent cash shop in will make them ugly amounts of money.

 

They also need hats... especially if you find said hats on random in a box that cost 1$... =P Ok maybe not hats.. but some other random stuff.

Tomas Soapbox

This have been a good conversation

  Reas43

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9/13/12 10:20:32 AM#137
Originally posted by Creslin321

Grats ANet...awesome game that I really want to succeed so that we can see a bunch of high quality expansions down the road :).

Also, I think it's hilarious that there are a bunch of people in here trying to spin 2 million sales negatively somehow.

 

Gee Creslin. How were you positively spinning SWTORs numbers and reviews after it's release? Keep consistent man. You flailed on SWTOR relentlessly and discounted it's early successes and now you cannot abide anyone doing the same to your idol? Let's start keeping close tabs on those crore graphs after MoP launches.
  Celcius

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9/13/12 10:20:51 AM#138

It will be funny if WoW goes F2P in a year or two because of decling sub numbers and a better game offering more content, and more then likely more frequent content updates (Not hard considering WoW now does 3 content updates over 2 years) then it without a sub. This won't be the last time we hear about record breaking sales either.

You can't really base the active number of players on anything here, really. The main source of income outside of the box they are getting is from the gem store, which I have no doubt they are rolling in money from atm. Hell, I have spent way more then I should have on it already myself! I know of several other people in the same boat. Fact is that if you go into GW1, even now, there is still plenty of people playing it. A game that is Buy 2 Play has far more appeal and lasting power then an MMO with a sub. Hell, look at Diablo 2...sure, its not an MMO but it still has an identical model nearly to GW1 and it still has plenty of people playing it. 

  Sovrath

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9/13/12 10:21:09 AM#139
Originally posted by Nitth

The problem here is they have orchestrated it in such a way that this number will ever decline. "2million units sold" 90% of the population could leave and it still would be "2 million units sold"

I personally think there is a hard ceiling to this game, Where everyone who wanted to play it, did.

Except that is true with every game.

For instance, "WoW has sold x amount of units". Everyone could stop subbing and they will still have sold "x amount of units'.

All these numbers show, like every game that is purchased, is intiial interest. And this shows initial interest is high.

What must be compared going forward are concurrent players.

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9/13/12 10:21:11 AM#140
Oh and guy who browses post history can't let someone who has perfected the art of trolling hurt his pride. So guy changed his mind about something big deal, new facts come out all the time. Don't let your mmorpg forum pride get slaughtered kids, make sure you do what old smokey would do ... Browse history before replying to potential trolls who could hurt your mmorpg forum pride.
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