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  Lethality

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9/13/12 10:27:01 AM#81
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by tawess
Originally posted by gravesworn

You have to compare it to non-sub sales like Diablo III, or even console games... in comparison, these sales numbers pale.

Why would you do that?  If you are going to compare sales, you need to stick within the genre, which is MMORPG. 

You can't because the revenue models aren't the same... the genre has nothing to do with it.

  laserit

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9/13/12 10:27:02 AM#82

How many copies did WoW sell in the first 2 weeks of release? How much end game content did WoW have at release?

Some of you people dont talk apples to apples.

GW2 is hands down a success and will grow, dont really give a crap if it beats WoW or not all I know is that WoW wont ever get another cent from me and that has nothing to do with GW2 

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  Nikkita

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9/13/12 10:28:08 AM#83
Originally posted by TdogSkal
Originally posted by DiSpLiFF
Originally posted by gravesworn
Really can we compare it to other mmos as far as financial inqury is concerned? Would we not need to compare it to other non subscription based games? Does anyone know how to find the first two weeks of box sales for wow? I dont know how you to compare a subscription based game over a non subscription based game.

Diablo 3 sold over 3.6 million in 24 hours if you want to compare to non-subscription game. 

just throwing it out there. 

Yea but I think its pretty safe to say that Most of those who bought D3 got it because they loved D2 and had to wait 10+ years for a new Diablo and I think its safe to say that the good majority do not play D3 anymore because it was a crappy game.

So yes Diablo 3 should have out sold Guild Wars 2.  Many more people have been waiting on Diablo 3 then Guild Wars 2.

7 million total in GW1 sales. Acording to your logic regarding Diablo, GW1 too also has an established fan base so it should have sold a lot more then?

 


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  Lethality

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9/13/12 10:28:14 AM#84
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Eir_S

How did I know there would be people in this thread acting like 2 million sales is a bad thing?

Seriously, just stop, it's embarrassing.  Way to go, ANet.

I know right?  It's like people are really pissed off with another games success.

No, not pissed about the success, but definitely don't want what I feel to be an inferior feature set and level of quality to set anhy kind of standard for the industry. It's not an MMO game I like to play, therefore I don't want to see more of them.

 

  kadepsyson

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Posts: 1967

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:28:50 AM#85
Originally posted by laserit

How many copies did WoW sell in the first 2 weeks of release? How much end game content did WoW have at release?

Some of you people dont talk apples to apples.

GW2 is hands down a success and will grow, dont really give a crap if it beats WoW or not all I know is that WoW wont ever get another cent from me and that has nothing to do with GW2 

*raises hand*

GW2 sold a couple million boxes over several months.  They can't rely on subscriptions, only more boxes and more cash shop.  I'm a bit worried about their success.

El Psy Congroo

  Lydon

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Posts: 2923

9/13/12 10:29:36 AM#86
I find it highly amusing how some people are attempting to turn 2 million sales into a bad thing. How pathetic. Well done ArenaNet...that's no small feat. Comparing sales to Blizzard's when Blizzard had tons of titles behind their name before WoW's release...well that's just retarded.

  BadSpock

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Posts: 7769

Logic be damned!

9/13/12 10:30:48 AM#87

Huh, I thought it'd be more by now.

Congrats Anet!

They'll be getting another big boost when they release in China.

I'm sure other languages/regions will follow too.

I wonder if they'll do a holiday "come play the game all your friends are playing" marketing campaign?

Now Playing: Destiny, WoW

  kadepsyson

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Posts: 1967

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:31:04 AM#88
Originally posted by Lydon
I find it highly amusing how some people are attempting to turn 2 million sales into a bad thing. How pathetic. Well done ArenaNet...that's no small feat. Comparing sales to Blizzard's when Blizzard had tons of titles behind their name before WoW's release...well that's just retarded.

How many MMOs did blizzard have before WoW?  How many for Arenanet before Guild Wars 2?

El Psy Congroo

  Lethality

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9/13/12 10:32:04 AM#89
Originally posted by Nikkita
 

7 million total in GW1 sales. Acording to your logic regarding Diablo, GW1 too also has an established fan base so it should have sold a lot more then?

 

Yeah they seem to gloss over this. The minute you say GW1 was a minor game, they say BUT IT SOLD 7 MILLOIN!N!N!#!@!

And as soon as GW2 doesn't sell 7 million, they say NTO AS BIG AS DIABLO LOLOLLO

 

 

  Nadia

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9/13/12 10:32:06 AM#90

its selling faster than i expected

i didnt think Guild Wars would sell more than 3 million by the end of this year -- 3 months from launch

  Mithrandolir

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Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

9/13/12 10:33:29 AM#91

Best mmorpg, imo, to launch since 2001.

It's getting great reviews across the board from critics. I know quite a few guilds who have been playing since head start and aside from a few bugs they all still love it.

It deserves the success of over 2 million sold imo, and will continue to grow and have a very healthy playerbase, again imo.

 

Kudos ArenaNet, you nailed it.

 

 

  KhinRunite

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Posts: 897

9/13/12 10:37:22 AM#92
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Eir_S

How did I know there would be people in this thread acting like 2 million sales is a bad thing?

Seriously, just stop, it's embarrassing.  Way to go, ANet.

I know right?  It's like people are really pissed off with another games success.

No, not pissed about the success, but definitely don't want what I feel to be an inferior feature set and level of quality to set anhy kind of standard for the industry. It's not an MMO game I like to play, therefore I don't want to see more of them.

 

Wow...I better check then what kind of game you're heralding in order to prepare myself better for when the time comes that the industry listens to what you want.

Criticisms against GW2's features are fair, but attacking the quality of the game I find hard to understand.

  ShakyMo

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Posts: 7246

9/13/12 10:39:09 AM#93
This figure can't be right, what about all those threads by the doom and gloom brigade digging out arcane stats from xfire and proclaiming "swtor all over again"

:P
  MightyPit

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Posts: 88

9/13/12 10:39:56 AM#94

Well Guild Wars 2 has also the fame of Guild Wars behind it. Which is maybe equal to the fame of the warcraft universe when wow hit the shelves back in 2004. The gaming community knows it quite well, the mainstream learns about it by a really offensive marketing. I remember articles in gaming magazines which are more than double in size than those for everquest 2, which was released at the same time. As some former posters wrote: the numbers of sold boxes in the beginning of wow where also not soo impressive. It takes time to grow.

And that's what ArenaNet has still to prove. That the longterm motivation can hold the players.

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UO,EQ,DAOC,EQ2,GW,ROM,WOW,WAR,AOC,LOTRO,RIFT,TSW,GW2,POE
Looking forward to: Camelot Unchained, Star Citizen

  FrodoFragins

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9/13/12 10:40:10 AM#95
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Lethality
Hehe, no. This game isn't mainstream enough... it has a limited appeal, and there are signs that the foundation has cracks in it (endgame, broken designs, balance.)

According to Anet they want to beat WOW in sales and be number one. I think they know for that they have to go for mass appeal hence mainstream.

I don't think GW2 will come close to MoP in sales.  But I'd sure love it if they did.

  kadepsyson

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Posts: 1967

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/13/12 10:41:50 AM#96
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Lethality
Hehe, no. This game isn't mainstream enough... it has a limited appeal, and there are signs that the foundation has cracks in it (endgame, broken designs, balance.)

According to Anet they want to beat WOW in sales and be number one. I think they know for that they have to go for mass appeal hence mainstream.

I don't think GW2 will come close to MoP in sales.  But I'd sure love it if they did.

Since GW2 includes prepurchase numbers from months prior to release in this "two week" period (lol), I wonder if we include prepurchases for MoP if the WoW expansion has ALREADY outsold GW2 before it even is released :)

El Psy Congroo

  Deathenger

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Wipe yourself off, U DEAD!

9/13/12 10:44:36 AM#97
Well deserved and I wish them the best. My experience so far has been dame near flawless. They definetly put out a high quality product dispite some issues a small percent of players have had.

Gratz!
  petespri

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9/13/12 10:46:13 AM#98

It's funny how Kade and Lethality keep repeating the same stuff... "you cant compare numbers from 2004"... then in the same breath saying "WoW sells more".  Hypocritical!

 

I think everyone understands that WoW has a cult following for sure, and they have built their game fan-base since 2004.  Kudos to them, I liked it in TBC and Wrath and had a good time.  Unfortunately it is boring for me now and I need a change of quests and pvp, and GW2 does a great job at both.

 

As people tire of wow, which the numbers show, I'm expecting GW2 to keep growing.   Will it trump WoW?  It would take quite some time, so no, not for a while... wow is still king, if you are looking at total numbers. 

  Creslin321

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9/13/12 10:46:32 AM#99
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Lethality
Hehe, no. This game isn't mainstream enough... it has a limited appeal, and there are signs that the foundation has cracks in it (endgame, broken designs, balance.)

According to Anet they want to beat WOW in sales and be number one. I think they know for that they have to go for mass appeal hence mainstream.

I don't think GW2 will come close to MoP in sales.  But I'd sure love it if they did.

 I think that GW2 may surpass MoP with time, but I think that WoW has a huge fanbase right now that will just buy any expansion that comes out.  So initially, I agree with you that MoP will surpass GW2's sales.

But in the long run...I think GW2 may wind up on top, it just needs some time to build up a fanbase.  It will be interesting to see how GW2's first expansion sells when compared with Blizz's followup to MoP.

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  worldalpha

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9/13/12 10:47:25 AM#100
Originally posted by Tayah
Congrats, it really is the best mmo I've played in years. Finally, an mmo that comes out with all the bells and whistles, so much depth, and it's free to play?? :) Congrats ArenaNet, job well done.

Last I checked $60 isn't F2P.  It just isn't subscription based.

 
 

Thanks,
Mike
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