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  Halandir

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Posts: 741

9/13/12 12:09:33 PM#221
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Amjoco
they did well.

Or... did they?  Do we know their development costs or their operating costs compared to how much they've earned?

They did and they do.

Dev cost above 50m and well below 100. Of the first 2 mil sales it is a close to a 55/45 split between high yield online sales and low yield box'es.

No you cannot have a link. (And no, I am not in the least bothered how you project on that). You may however google all you want and do the math yourself.

 

We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)

  Icewhite

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9/13/12 12:10:38 PM#222
Originally posted by Stx11
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
To me, as an online game, the best metric is how many people are currently playing it?...

It may be the only number that really matters.  But it's the one number no marketing dept. will ever release.

Think we can get Blizzard (or any other game company) to cough up accurate numbers?  Not just 'how many subscriptions including overseas players at different rates'--how many faces, actually in the game, live, at time X on day Y.

It's much smaller than the sub numbers they (used to while still growing) pitch around, certainly, for any game company.  It's what Xfire (attempts) to do, with dubious success.

Naw--multi-accounts--impossible to count anyway, even if every gaming corporation had a sudden attack of honesty at precisely the same time. 

Never mind.

 

 

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  IceAge

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Posts: 885

9/13/12 12:11:31 PM#223
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by Stx11
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by Foomerang

Grats Anet! I wonder how many people are actually playing.

They'll never tell us, that's the problem.

http://www.guildfans.com/story.html?story=30544

"The 400,000 concurrent player record set over the headstart weekend has been repeatedly matched in the first two weeks of the game's life. Considering that ArenaNet suspended sales of the game to ensure server limits were not taxed beyond the sanctity of player enjoyment, the figures are quite astonishing."

We'll see if they keep announcing things going forward. We'll also see if Blizzard ever releases NA/EU-only Sub Numbers.

Concurrent is different that players. They need to provide a definition of "active players" to determine how popular the game is.

Blizzard has already defined subscribers.  

Plus let's see it a year, not 2 weeks in. Hell, even 2 weeks after launch, TOR looked like a blockbuster.

 

 

That statement it's the only good one that you've made since you start ... commeting on this article. Let's see it a year from now!

Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  User Deleted
9/13/12 12:11:38 PM#224

Said it before, and will say it again 3 million by the end of the year and 4-5 million within a year.

 

GW2 is the next incarnation of an amazing game experience with truely unlimited lasting appeal for the moderate to casual gamer base (or the die hard PvP'er).  For those with voracious apetites and the free time to play this game might not be for you.  I hear there are folks with full exotic and have completed 100% map but for those gamers nothing "new" will ever be good enough and it might behoove them to return to some old MMO and play such as WoW.  For me and mine GW2 offers alot of replayablity.

  slickbizzle

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Joined: 9/28/11
Posts: 430

9/13/12 12:13:41 PM#225
Hooray! I picked a winner to play!  Arenanet, and I, sure showed up all the doubters.  Unless Warcraft picks up steam, then it will be me and Blizzard showing up all the doubters.
  User Deleted
9/13/12 12:14:12 PM#226
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

You do realise there is no subscription to Guild Wars 2 .

  User Deleted
9/13/12 12:14:41 PM#227
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by Galadourn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

define 'ever'....

Let's put it this way... even after everyone tires of WoW,  because the game is so good and has so many fans, it will never, ever get lower than 2-3 million subscribers... ever.

Guild Wars 2 is just selling boxes, there's no way to measure the number of "players" and it's doubtful ArenaNet will ever need to report that since it has nothing to do with financials. So we'll never know how many people are playing.  

For example, I bought it, but I've already uninstalled it.

 

 

Sorry WoW only has 3-4 million subs across NA and EU.  The rest of WoW's subs are from penny an hour internet cafes in Asia.

  Eletheryl

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Posts: 154

9/13/12 12:15:24 PM#228
Is a B2P game, Like BF3 or D3. Lot of people brought the game and quit a few days after or is not even playing, it could sell 3 mill of copies and have less than 200k active players after a month.
  GeezerGamer

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Posts: 4075

Remember the blisters you'd get in the palm of your hand from the corner of that joystick?

9/13/12 12:18:18 PM#229

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

Recently started playing SWTOR. I am posting updates to my experience in this thread:
SWTOR Experience

  QuicklyScott

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Joined: 4/27/12
Posts: 448

The opinion of a penguin.

9/13/12 12:18:50 PM#230
Originally posted by Eletheryl
Is a B2P game, Like BF3 or D3. Lot of people brought the game and quit a few days after or is not even playing, it could sell 3 mill of copies and have less than 200k active players after a month.

True. I bought GW1, played it for about a month, then never played it again.  I wonder how many may do the same with GW2.

  Trikke

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Posts: 93

"What we do in life echo''s in eternity"

9/13/12 12:19:25 PM#231
And 1.1 million of those are bots.
  QuicklyScott

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Posts: 448

The opinion of a penguin.

9/13/12 12:19:51 PM#232
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 4075

Remember the blisters you'd get in the palm of your hand from the corner of that joystick?

9/13/12 12:21:42 PM#233
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

I was off by a few huh?

Recently started playing SWTOR. I am posting updates to my experience in this thread:
SWTOR Experience

  IceAge

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 885

9/13/12 12:23:53 PM#234
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  caetftl

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Joined: 8/29/12
Posts: 279

9/13/12 12:25:16 PM#235
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

 

WoW is estimated at around half of that.  To achieve those numbers they would have had to sell 15-20million boxes of the original, and then every expansion after that would have had to sell the exact same amount. 

Originally posted by IceAge
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

 


But the pc cafes they play from buy boxes...

 
 
  Amjoco

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Posts: 3443

9/13/12 12:27:06 PM#236
Originally posted by Icewhite

Lunch time, I think.  Can I sell anybody a t-shirt?

The "fanboy" on one side and "hater" on the reverse is quite popular today.

Ew I want 2 of them. Do you have the one of the Guardian and the Paladin shaking hands? That is my favorite!

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  Lethality

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Joined: 7/29/06
Posts: 55

9/13/12 12:27:21 PM#237
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by Lethality
Originally posted by Galadourn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

define 'ever'....

Let's put it this way... even after everyone tires of WoW,  because the game is so good and has so many fans, it will never, ever get lower than 2-3 million subscribers... ever.

Guild Wars 2 is just selling boxes, there's no way to measure the number of "players" and it's doubtful ArenaNet will ever need to report that since it has nothing to do with financials. So we'll never know how many people are playing.  

For example, I bought it, but I've already uninstalled it.

 

 

Sorry WoW only has 3-4 million subs across NA and EU.  The rest of WoW's subs are from penny an hour internet cafes in Asia.

Nope.

  Lethality

Novice Member

Joined: 7/29/06
Posts: 55

9/13/12 12:27:54 PM#238
Originally posted by IceAge
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

Sure they do. 

  IceAge

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 885

9/13/12 12:28:10 PM#239
Originally posted by caetftl
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

Like what 40M boxes over the years?

It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

 

WoW is estimated at around half of that.  To achieve those numbers they would have had to sell 15-20million boxes of the original, and then every expansion after that would have had to sell the exact same amount. 

Not to mentionate the : Battlechests, promotions, off-sale, scroll of resurect which lets you upgrade your wow account to cataclysm only if you return and pay the monthly fees of 15$ and so on..

So box sales it's not = to 60$

Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
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  QuicklyScott

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Posts: 448

The opinion of a penguin.

9/13/12 12:28:23 PM#240
I must of got that wrong then, I remember reading that estimate from a reputable website.  Regardless, they've sold a crap load.

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