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9/12/12 9:53:54 AM#121
Originally posted by SteeJanz A hater is not a hater just because he gives a negative criticism the label comes after wards. But before calling me ignorant i would like to ask you in nicest way possible what the hell you have been doing on these forums if you didn't even notice a simple thing that often anyone who gives valid criticism is simple dismissed as a hater or a troll?.
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9/12/12 9:54:16 AM#122
Originally posted by Nikkita It's a game. Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not. |
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Originally posted by Flaming_MMO If you're using the "Direct" definition of Fan which is Fanatic then yes. However, that is nothing but semantics.
Why must you poke the dragon with a sharp stick in the eye ;)? The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: |
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Originally posted by Nikkita I don't think he was making a valid point, but more than likely he was simply trying to shut down your response and dismiss it. In my opinion BadSpock was wrong in what he said on both replies, but i've already responded to those so I won't repeat them here. Regardless, I believe SteeJanz is the one who is being ignorant here. He ignores the falacies BadSpock puts forth without getting the "point" of why "Hater" is thrown about so willy-nilly without even a coherant reply as to why they're being labeled as such. The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: |
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9/12/12 9:57:10 AM#125
Thats all i see is the many hundreds of different happy gamers i have the pleasure of playing with in game everyday in a game to where no 2 characters look exactly alike and the action and fun is as slow or fast, hard or easy as you want it to be.. To me personally GW2 is the greatest game ever made and i just cant get enough of it and i am way far from being alone here.. Playing GW2.. |
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9/12/12 9:58:05 AM#126
Originally posted by Fadedbomb Another issue is that almost no form of "positive praise" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out something that you like about the game, you get attacked for being a "fanboi" or being "feral." SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever! |
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9/12/12 9:58:09 AM#127
Originally posted by Amjoco i think Badspock also needs to hear this as much as i do.
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9/12/12 9:59:02 AM#128
Originally posted by Fadedbomb They seem the same to me. I've been called a fanboy or hater pending on the topic at hand with mmos by those gems since...well I've been going to forums for mmos. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/12/12 10:01:16 AM#129
Originally posted by colddog04 I don't remember when was the last time people praised GW2 without putting others down...i am actually looking for such a topic right now which was only limited to talking good about GW2 without being condscending and smug about it. If i find such a topic i will let you know.
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Yamota
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9/12/12 10:02:01 AM#130
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter Normal gamers dont go to forums? Yeah because it is so abnormal to go to an internet forum to discuss your hobby Casual gamers might not go to a forum but that is not the same as normal. Regarding the OP, I agree. Fanatical fanboyism who does everything to attack people with criticism to the game is one of the worst thing for evolving not only the game but also the genre.  |
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9/12/12 10:02:18 AM#131
Feral. Good word.
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Originally posted by Wickedjelly My problem is that threads such as "Best Game Ever" that give no valid points or criticisms, and in general are horribly subjective get treated with little due thought. These are what is called a "Fanatic's" thread. Then you get arogent children who make threads like "Worse game i've ever played" that are equally as bad but on the opposite end of the spectrum. These are called "Hater" threads.
These two types of threads NEED to be shutdown and called out for what they really are as they are toxic. However, my problem is when someone makes a valid, drawn-out, criticism, and is then labeled a "Hater" or "Troll" only to be agreed with months later (has happend to me more times than I can recount now). It's getting old. The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: |
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9/12/12 10:04:00 AM#133
Originally posted by Nikkita I think we all do. ;) Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not. |
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9/12/12 10:04:59 AM#134
Originally posted by Nikkita Well maybe I have rose colored glasses but I don't see everyone one that posts criticism as hater and I refuse to let other posters decide for me who is or who is not a hater. The oversimplicification of labeling that you are doing is your problem not mine. IMO, a hater is not someone that critizes a game. A hater would be someone that misinforms others about the game or constantly makes threads bashing a particular game, or constantly posts negative comments in positive threads, etc... It's a body of work type of thing instead of they posted this once type of thing. If you want to label everyone that has a positive thing to say about a game as a Fanboy and anyone that makes a negative comment about a game a hater, then go ahead. Whatever honks your hooter. However, I refuse to agree with you. I |
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9/12/12 10:05:25 AM#135
Originally posted by colddog04 I haven't seen truly constructive / positive criticism on this site in a long, long time. It is one of "the" hardest things to do especially in the medium of text-only communication. It's no suprise it is so damned rare on MMORPG.com. Even the people who THINK they are being constructive and not negative (sorry like you Faded) generally still come off as arrogant, negative, and combative simple by the fact that is how their text reads to many (even if it is completely unintentional.) Colddog04 is 100% correct as well - the door swings both ways.
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9/12/12 10:06:03 AM#136
Originally posted by Fadedbomb no you arent, you are more worried about spreading your light blue text around, creating a commotion, and causing long threads like this. |
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9/12/12 10:06:51 AM#137
Only a fool would look at this site and suggest that it's anything more than a bulletin board of advertising. Just look all over it... buy this, try this, new this, revamped that... they are here soley to make a penny or two off of each and every one of you posting here. Doesn't really matter what you say here... they're getting paid either way. THAT'S ALL THIS SITE IS FOR. |
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Originally posted by StanlyStanko I got tired of using Fanboy, and figured i'd attract more fire. Unfortunately I still used it in my OP. The word urks me to use, but I can't seem to escape it :(. The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: |
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9/12/12 10:07:24 AM#139
Originally posted by Amjoco The forums are the most epic game of all. Sometimes when we think it's "obvious" people are IRL emotionally effected by forum conversations, they are not. Gaming is a passionate subject for many, and "in some ways emotion runs deeper in the Vulcan race than in the humans." MMO History: |
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9/12/12 10:08:26 AM#140
Originally posted by truthhurts The duty of a "Spotlight Poster" apparently.
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