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General Discussion  » Feral Fanbois are hurting GW2 more than "Haters" ever could...

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  Requiem1066

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9/12/12 7:57:15 AM#21
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by Requiem1066
I just find it amusing that people are told not to dislike GW while in the same breath the poster in bashing on WoW

Where did I bash on WoW? Did I miss something :|?

No you didn't :p .. I'm talking  the hypocrisy in general from a few 

Ie: 

" Why all this hate on GW2 .. You WoW trolls should go back to that sucky game " 


  beculmov2

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9/12/12 7:59:39 AM#22
Nobody is hurting anything,only the 1% that let their decisions influenced by these so called ''fanbois'' and ''haters'' and who cares about them anyway.If you would actually sit back and read your post loudly you would see it makes absolutely no sense.
  Fadedbomb

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OP  9/12/12 8:00:05 AM#23
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Frankly at this point both sides seem a tad out of control to me.

Normally this is true for any new launch as opinions have yet to change with regard to one side or the other so people still have strong opinions from pre-launch. However, the thing that I'm surprised, this time around, is the fact that fans are actually bashing other fans for realizational situations.

Dude got flamed in map chat about how DE's weren't "Dynamic". I mean, that's not something subjective at all like saying "this game sucks". I'd understand completely if the latter statement had been made, but when you state something specific about a mechanic and people go nuts on you it feels a bit weird when it's in-game as opposed to a forum.

 

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  Fadedbomb

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OP  9/12/12 8:00:51 AM#24
Originally posted by Requiem1066
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by Requiem1066
I just find it amusing that people are told not to dislike GW while in the same breath the poster in bashing on WoW

Where did I bash on WoW? Did I miss something :|?

No you didn't :p .. I'm talking  the hypocrisy in general from a few 

Ie: 

" Why all this hate on GW2 .. You WoW trolls should go back to that sucky game " 

Ah, I was confused because your post sounded like you were talking about my OP Q_Q.

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

9/12/12 8:02:54 AM#25

Threads like THIS need to stop - this is nonsense.

I'm sorry people are happy/excited about a new game, I'm sorry other people are not.

Who are you to tell people to stop being happy or to stop being upset?

 

This is the forums - your post does nothing. NOTHING. This kind of thing happens every day, every week, every month and with every new game ever released.

[mod edit]

The real solution? Ignoring threads like this. Talking about the GAME on the game's specific forums not talking about the forums themselves or players or reputation or whatever other nonsense garbage is filling up this website.

[mod edit]

Let's talk about games and what we like/dislike about them in a civil, constructive, friendly manner.

Let's stop talking about gamers and forums and talk about the GAMES.

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Looking Towards: Destiny

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2589

9/12/12 8:03:01 AM#26
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

Only people not interested in playing a game in the first place will care about fanboys or not.

It is also extremely easy to avoid fanboys - just avoid forums.

Like it is easy to avoid haters - just avoid forums.

Normal players don't go to forums.

I disagree wholeheartedly. These forums are read by developers of other games in order to get a "feel" for the reception of certain titles. They understand the "waves" that happen, and do continue to watch regardless of the crazyness that goes on.

 

If rampant threads of "this game is the best game EVER!" were just left unchecked without a dose of reality then the market would get the wrong impression of the actual impact the game is having. This leads to future games being affected with little to no interaction from the playerbase. This can further be a horrible affect as it can cost good hardworking intelligent people their jobs because their bosses couldn't get a clear picture of the market due to the "muddying" of what the actual impact of the product was.

 

Also, fanboys are all over the in-game map chat, and other game forums. I even had the disatisfaction of seeing an argument between 9 people in /map last night in Kessex Hills about how every game prior to GW2 is utter nonsense. That obviously spiraled down into "Go back to WoW" comments, something about hitler, and then a comment about someone's mother.

 

Maybe I'm playing on the wrong server? (Yak's Bend)

Yep - look at all the sandboxes games being created on the wake of these forums.

And look at what blizzard, anet and other devs say about how representative of the general population forum goers are.

I played WoW for a while - I liked certain things,i disliked others, never started bashing WoW in chat.

 

If only that chat wasn't there you might even like GW2 so much more...

Oh well, GW2 community must be the gathering place for scum of humanity - must have been the first time people in a game bash other game, say something about mothers and hitler. If you took a screenshot of that it might make the front page of newspappers all around the world.

 

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  Fadedbomb

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OP  9/12/12 8:04:12 AM#27
Originally posted by beculmov2
Nobody is hurting anything,only the 1% that let their decisions influenced by these so called ''fanbois'' and ''haters'' and who cares about them anyway.If you would actually sit back and read your post loudly you would see it makes absolutely no sense.

If it made "no sense" then why are we seeing in-game chat & posts on these forums regarding negativity towards other games? Also, negative output from a community does have a negative affect on population growth for an MMO as I've seen in the past for other titles how people get confused or timid over the whole situation. Granted, this isn't the norm, but it shouldn't be an issue regardless. It certainly wasn't for SWTOR (for some odd reason?).

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  User Deleted
9/12/12 8:05:37 AM#28
The few people that I know that are still on the fence about GW2 are waiting for IGN's final review.  Go figure.  They don't trust forums.
  Nadia

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Posts: 11429

9/12/12 8:06:51 AM#29
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Dude got flamed in map chat about how DE's weren't "Dynamic". I mean, that's not something subjective at all like saying "this game sucks". I'd understand completely if the latter statement had been made, but when you state something specific about a mechanic and people go nuts on you it feels a bit weird when it's in-game as opposed to a forum.

claiming DEs are not dynamic is just as subjective as saying this game sucks

 

both are negative statements and will cause a fuss

 

  Leethe

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9/12/12 8:07:16 AM#30
This forum is irrelevent and I see no correlation between the bumf that folks spout here and what they actually go and buy. My mate called me up last night wondering if he should get it BASED ON SOME REVIEWS HE READ ON AMAZON. he asked me if it was worth it and I said "yeah it's pretty fun but it you don't like it it's not like you have to pay a sub." So he bought it. This game's is popularity is growing because when friends ask other friends about it, and most of those friends say go for it. unlike a good portion of the posters here, most gamers are capable of seeking out information on their own and acting on their own bloody volition!

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  Nikkita

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9/12/12 8:08:03 AM#31

I am fan of GW2 not a fanatic.  I see the flaws and shortcomings but at the same time i am capable of enjoying it.

What i dislike is the over the top fanatics who never forget to tell you 'how to have fun in game', 'you are playing it wrong', 'GW2 is perfect and flawless'..their obnoxious and condscending attitude towards anyone who doesn't enjoy GW2. 

They exaaggerated every single feature of GW2 before release and continue to do so now and even though playing experince have busted their lies and exaggeration.

These so called fans make rest of us look bad and we are often lumped into same category. Yes i despise these feral fans and they do more harm to game than good.

Am i the only one who noticed that majority of so called haters here have more problems with these feral fans than the game itself.? i mean if you continue to patronize fans of every other game and make them feel bad about playing games like WOW, Rift, TSW etc... you are just asking for trouble.


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  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

9/12/12 8:08:40 AM#32
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Dude got flamed in map chat about how DE's weren't "Dynamic". I mean, that's not something subjective at all like saying "this game sucks". I'd understand completely if the latter statement had been made, but when you state something specific about a mechanic and people go nuts on you it feels a bit weird when it's in-game as opposed to a forum.

 

 You're going to have that in any game though unless the subject at hand is almost universally vilified by players in general. You've been around long enough to know this.

Start remarking about a feature any game has and critiquing it in game and you know damn well some are going to want to burn you at the stake. I see it all the time in these games.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Fadedbomb

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Joined: 5/19/06
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OP  9/12/12 8:08:54 AM#33
Originally posted by BadSpock

Threads like THIS need to stop - this is nonsense.

I'm sorry people are happy/excited about a new game, I'm sorry other people are not.

Who are you to tell people to stop being happy or to stop being upset?

 

This is the forums - your post does nothing. NOTHING. This kind of thing happens every day, every week, every month and with every new game ever released.

Welcome to MMORPG.com, as a "Spotlight Poster" you should be concerned with creating relevant discussion not padding your post count with this nonsense.

No one cares and if you are truly so concerned about the reputation and "feelings" of GW2 and people "hurting" the game, you wouldn't post this troll bait nonsense and CONTINUE adding to the problem, not doing anything to help "fix" it (but that is all you apparently are capable of posting.)

 

The real solution? Ignoring threads like this. Talking about the GAME on the game's specific forums not talking about the forums themselves or players or reputation or whatever other nonsense garbage is filling up this website.

I've been on MMORPG.com for a long, long time. This community has become ridiculous where a post like this and a poster like this could be "Spotlighted" for this kind of nonsensical drivel.

Let's talk about games and what we like/dislike about them in a civil, constructive, friendly manner.

Let's stop talking about gamers and forums and talk about the GAMES.

You say nothing when people spam the forum with "Why are people so angry about the 'Success' of GW2?" when it is utterly subjective & is essentially baiting anti-fanbois.

You say nothing when people are outright flaming others for having bad experiences in GW2, and then asking questions about specific mechanics (ie: Dynamic Events not being Dynamic).

Then when someone makes a thread asking everyone to calm down you outright attack them?

 

Hypocrisy much?

Also, to say that this sort of over-hyped fanboism is "normal" for this forum is disingenuous at best. Even when SWTOR was about to release it was never this bad from my perspective. Was your post REALLY needed?

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  Master10K

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9/12/12 8:09:49 AM#34
Originally posted by BadSpock

Threads like THIS need to stop - this is nonsense.

I'm sorry people are happy/excited about a new game, I'm sorry other people are not.

Who are you to tell people to stop being happy or to stop being upset?

 

This is the forums - your post does nothing. NOTHING. This kind of thing happens every day, every week, every month and with every new game ever released.

Welcome to MMORPG.com, as a "Spotlight Poster" you should be concerned with creating relevant discussion not padding your post count with this nonsense.

No one cares and if you are truly so concerned about the reputation and "feelings" of GW2 and people "hurting" the game, you wouldn't post this troll bait nonsense and CONTINUE adding to the problem, not doing anything to help "fix" it (but that is all you apparently are capable of posting.)

 

The real solution? Ignoring threads like this. Talking about the GAME on the game's specific forums not talking about the forums themselves or players or reputation or whatever other nonsense garbage is filling up this website.

I've been on MMORPG.com for a long, long time. This community has become ridiculous where a post like this and a poster like this could be "Spotlighted" for this kind of nonsensical drivel.

Let's talk about games and what we like/dislike about them in a civil, constructive, friendly manner.

Let's stop talking about gamers and forums and talk about the GAMES.

Appluase

  Fadedbomb

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Joined: 5/19/06
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OP  9/12/12 8:10:03 AM#35
Originally posted by Nikkita

I am fan of GW2 not a fanatic.  I see the flaws and shortcomings but at the same time i am capable of enjoying it. What i dislike is the over the top fanatics who never forget to tell you 'how to have fun in game', 'you are playing it wrong', 'GW2 is perfect and flawless'..their obnoxious and condscending attitude towards anyone who doesn't enjoy GW2. 

These so called fans make rest of us look bad and we are often lumped into same category. Yes i despise these feral fans and they do more harm to game than good.

Am i the only one who noticed that majority of so called haters here have more problems with these feral fans than the game itself.? i mean if you continue to patronize fans of every other game and make them feel bad about playing games like WOW, Rift, TSW etc... you are just asking for trouble.

This is why I enjoy reading your posts Nikkita, Thank you :)!

The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  beculmov2

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Joined: 6/19/10
Posts: 11

9/12/12 8:10:27 AM#36
You really believe that 10-15 clowns on this forum affect the population growth of a huge title? It's nonsense.Also,why do you even care about these people? Let them give their negative output all they want,all they do is embarrass themselves,just play the game.
  Nadia

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Posts: 11429

9/12/12 8:10:43 AM#37
Originally posted by GrumpyCharr
The few people that I know that are still on the fence about GW2 are waiting for IGN's final review.  Go figure.  They don't trust forums.

IGN posted their final review 9/10

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/12/guild-wars-2-review

 

  Fadedbomb

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OP  9/12/12 8:13:18 AM#38
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Dude got flamed in map chat about how DE's weren't "Dynamic". I mean, that's not something subjective at all like saying "this game sucks". I'd understand completely if the latter statement had been made, but when you state something specific about a mechanic and people go nuts on you it feels a bit weird when it's in-game as opposed to a forum.

 

 You're going to have that in any game though unless the subject at hand is almost universally vilified by players in general. You've been around long enough to know this.

Start remarking about a feature any game has and critiquing it in game and you know damn well some are going to want to burn you at the stake. I see it all the time in these games.

Actually in RIFT people complained about how "static" Rifts actually were and got a general response of "well it's better than WoW" rather than being flamed.

In TERA when people complained about the linear nature of leveling via quests you got back "Well the combat is a lot more fun than previous MMOs!".

In Aion when people complained about how flying was temporary fluff because it had a timer on it, and you couldn't fly in MOST of the game (including dungeons) you got back comments like "Well wait until end-game when you can fly around tons in pvp!".

In GW2 when people complain about DE's being non-Dynamic you get "Go back to WoW you damn troll!", or "You have no idea what you're talking about, get out of /map or stop playing!".

 

 

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9/12/12 8:14:21 AM#39
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

You say nothing when people spam the forum with "Why are people so angry about the 'Success' of GW2?" when it is utterly subjective & is essentially baiting anti-fanbois.

You say nothing when people are outright flaming others for having bad experiences in GW2, and then asking questions about specific mechanics (ie: Dynamic Events not being Dynamic).

Then when someone makes a thread asking everyone to calm down you outright attack them?

 

Hypocrisy much?

Also, to say that this sort of over-hyped fanboism is "normal" for this forum is disingenuous at best. Even when SWTOR was about to release it was never this bad from my perspective. Was your post REALLY needed?

 It seems the norm to me...here. Now where some seem to have incredibly short memory spans is the antics that went on other game's forums. It was pretty bad. 

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

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OP  9/12/12 8:14:21 AM#40
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by GrumpyCharr
The few people that I know that are still on the fence about GW2 are waiting for IGN's final review.  Go figure.  They don't trust forums.

IGN posted their final review 9/10

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/12/guild-wars-2-review

 

People trust IGN's reviews anymore? I am honestly shocked at this statement, or were you joking? O_o

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