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  Loke666

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9/12/12 1:03:59 AM#61

Revamping Wow to GW2s questsystem would just be too much work. They already made one Cata, revamping the game another time just wouldnt be a good idea.

But I do think next Xpac will have some dynamic events side by side with regular questing.

Titan on the other hand is a MMOFPS, not sure how they plan to tell you what to do in there.

  Nitth

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9/12/12 1:05:35 AM#62


Originally posted by ShimpoGenmu
gw2 is the new themepark standard either u like it or not.

Where is your evidence to support this?


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  QuicklyScott

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9/12/12 1:06:20 AM#63
Originally posted by Loke666

Revamping Wow to GW2s questsystem would just be too much work. They already made one Cata, revamping the game another time just wouldnt be a good idea.

But I do think next Xpac will have some dynamic events side by side with regular questing.

Titan on the other hand is a MMOFPS, not sure how they plan to tell you what to do in there.

Really? Can you link a source?  I thought they comfirmed it as an MMORPG earlier this year.

  Loke666

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9/12/12 1:06:39 AM#64
Originally posted by Nitth

Originally posted by Gibbonici

Originally posted by Krytycal I can't see removing quest hubs being too hard to implement, just remove quests givers and make it so the you automatically get the quests whenever you're close to whatever bandits you need to kill, plants you need to water, or NPCs you need to escort.   TADA! Dynamics events.
You're confusing hearts with dynamic events. They aren't the same thing.

They may aswel be.

Not at all, hearts are regular quests with the only differences that you dont need to take them and that there usually is several stuff you can do to complete them. They are very static and always up until you complete them.

DEs are only up a certain time and if you fail them there will usually be consequences.

  Kuro1n

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9/12/12 1:09:48 AM#65
Originally posted by ShimpoGenmu
Originally posted by Misaris

Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

keep dreaming that way bliz fanboy

 

cant believe how much blind u blizz fanboys are lol.....this is not 2004 anymore where the mmo's wasnt something big and didnt have any competition....things have change,if u think blizz will ever have the numbers wow had then buddy u better wake up

wows peak time was actually 2009 and Q4 2010, where it held ~12 mil subscribers, so 2004 is somewhat irrelevant. There was also quite some competition back then as well, runescape, Lineage, Lineage 2, EVE Online, EverQuest (and EQ2?), well lots of games you dont think about but were there. I doubt wow will make a comeback or anything as its an old and slowly dying giant but GW2 isnt exactly perfect either. It's a good themepark with some new features but that's about it. Very pretty though.

  Nitth

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9/12/12 1:12:04 AM#66


Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Nitth

Originally posted by Gibbonici

Originally posted by Krytycal I can't see removing quest hubs being too hard to implement, just remove quests givers and make it so the you automatically get the quests whenever you're close to whatever bandits you need to kill, plants you need to water, or NPCs you need to escort.   TADA! Dynamics events.
You're confusing hearts with dynamic events. They aren't the same thing.
They may aswel be.
Not at all, hearts are regular quests with the only differences that you dont need to take them and that there usually is several stuff you can do to complete them. They are very static and always up until you complete them.

DEs are only up a certain time and if you fail them there will usually be consequences.


Go to the water plant in queensdale and stick a heart there.

Heart reads"Defeat 20 bandits in 3 minutes and 55 seconds"

They are the same mechanics except SOME of them have branching endings, And are repeatable.


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  RexNebular

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9/12/12 1:15:10 AM#67

How long?

Let's hope never.

GW2's so called quests are mind numbingly boring.

  TheIronLegion

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9/12/12 1:18:13 AM#68
Originally posted by Slampig
Originally posted by Deathenger

Also, taking bets that Titan will surely be without quest hubs now thanks to GW2.

 

Oh, you meant the hearts, where you get all the quests... I see what you did there.

I haven't picked up a single quest in GW2, but I have saved a farm, taught cows how to fight, helped a village in need, fought a dragon, and a series of other fun things. The hearts aren't "hubs" the hearts only point you to the action. In between where you are now and that heart there are a number of things that could happen. You could be distracted by something shiny that then explodes and centaur come raiding out to take an outpost; dynamic event spawns.

So yes, the hearts where no quests can be seen...i see what he did there as well.

  coretex666

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9/12/12 1:21:28 AM#69

You could have waited until they release it, so that you could be pointing your finger shouting "They copied GW 2" since it is what you would probably do considering what thread you just made.

I think they will not copy this design. Why would they?

The way GW deals with quests is different, but not significantly better.

Titan has been in development for what...like 5 years already or maybe even more. I doubt they will now try to copy anything. They say themselves that the game will be something different...lets wait for them to tell us how different before making threads like this.

Some of the most enthusiastic GW fans should leave Blizz alone, in my opinion. Just play your game and have fun doing it...

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  TheIronLegion

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9/12/12 1:24:35 AM#70
So...lets see. people in this thread who don't like hearts, probably never did any dynamic events outside the hearts and probably think that the hearts are the only places to do things at. Amiright? If so...you're dead wrong and I suggest you actually try to play the game for what it is before spouting nonsense. The hearts aren't the only thing in the game.

  Loke666

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9/12/12 1:26:33 AM#71
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by Loke666

...

Titan on the other hand is a MMOFPS, not sure how they plan to tell you what to do in there.

Really? Can you link a source?  I thought they comfirmed it as an MMORPG earlier this year.

Actually, after a long look on the net does it seems like Titan will be a little in between.

Combat will be fast-paced, eye-catching and natural, without the restrictions currently present in most old-fashioned MMOs. In this way, it will resemble what goes on in modern first person shooters. 

http://titanfocus.info/page/index.html

I guess that makes sense, but I also saw Blizzard mentioning a huge amount of well made quest.

  QuicklyScott

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9/12/12 1:32:55 AM#72
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by QuicklyScott
Originally posted by Loke666

...

Titan on the other hand is a MMOFPS, not sure how they plan to tell you what to do in there.

Really? Can you link a source?  I thought they comfirmed it as an MMORPG earlier this year.

Actually, after a long look on the net does it seems like Titan will be a little in between.

Combat will be fast-paced, eye-catching and natural, without the restrictions currently present in most old-fashioned MMOs. In this way, it will resemble what goes on in modern first person shooters. 

http://titanfocus.info/page/index.html

I guess that makes sense, but I also saw Blizzard mentioning a huge amount of well made quest.

Cool, thanks for the link man.  Very much appreciated!

  User Deleted
9/12/12 1:34:07 AM#73
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Actually, after a long look on the net does it seems like Titan will be a little in between.

Combat will be fast-paced, eye-catching and natural, without the restrictions currently present in most old-fashioned MMOs. In this way, it will resemble what goes on in modern first person shooters. 

http://titanfocus.info/page/index.html

I guess that makes sense, but I also saw Blizzard mentioning a huge amount of well made quest.

Cool, thanks for the link man.  Very much appreciated!

Restrictions?

  QuicklyScott

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9/12/12 1:38:02 AM#74
Originally posted by Enigmatus
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Actually, after a long look on the net does it seems like Titan will be a little in between.

Combat will be fast-paced, eye-catching and natural, without the restrictions currently present in most old-fashioned MMOs. In this way, it will resemble what goes on in modern first person shooters. 

http://titanfocus.info/page/index.html

I guess that makes sense, but I also saw Blizzard mentioning a huge amount of well made quest.

Cool, thanks for the link man.  Very much appreciated!

Restrictions?

Sorry, what?

 

I'm derping out trying to understand what you meant by that.

  User Deleted
9/12/12 1:40:17 AM#75
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Restrictions?

Sorry, what?

 

I'm derping out trying to understand what you meant by that.

I was asking about the whole "without the restrictions of MMOs" thing in that link.

  kadepsyson

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9/12/12 1:42:35 AM#76
How long before GW2 copies Warhammer Online questing design?  Oh wait...

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  otacu

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9/12/12 1:43:52 AM#77
Originally posted by Misaris

Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

I laugh a little when the words "innovation" and "blizzard" are in the same sentence

  QuicklyScott

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9/12/12 1:45:20 AM#78
Originally posted by Enigmatus
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Restrictions?

Sorry, what?

 

I'm derping out trying to understand what you meant by that.

I was asking about the whole "without the restrictions of MMOs" thing in that link.

Ahh right.

 

I don't really know what they mean by that either, perhaps they mean the tab targeting hotbar mechanics.  To me it sounds like they'll have some kind of Skyrim system.  

  User Deleted
9/12/12 1:47:43 AM#79
Originally posted by otacu
Originally posted by Misaris

Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

I laugh a little when the words "innovation" and "blizzard" are in the same sentence.

Honestly, from the way Misaris acts, I expect that when Blizzard copies something from another game, he's going to claim how utterly innovative Blizzard are, and that everyone else is a cheating shmuck with no originality, and how Blizzard is the shining pinnacle in an industry of shit...or something along that lines.

And then he will respond to this post by claiming that I'm just a loser GW2 fanboy and that his words are the only true gospel.

  TheHavok

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9/12/12 3:18:40 AM#80
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by TheHavok

I don't prefer one game's questing to another.  GW2 questing system is already similar to WoW's so I doubt WoW would copy much.

LOL How. Man you guys talk a lot of trash but can back it. Guess what I can avoid all those heart quest, the only reason I do them is to finish the zone for achievements. So many ways to level in GW2 its sad when you guys try to say dumb shit like this.

hmm lets see..

-gain XP for discovering a new zone

-receive "kill x number of kill herpity derpities" quest

-Escort quest

-turn in quest

-fend off attack quest

-fight big crazy dragon npc

-use unique tools like watering plants, firing items, ect

-Have "phasing" areas that change the surrounding once you completed.

-receive quest without talking to npcs.  When objective is completed, receive xp.

I've seen ALL of these in GW2 and in WoW.

*yawn* yeah - its questing.  Its the worst part about mmos.  Nothing special. I'll stick to SPvP.

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