Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by MosesZD

Originally posted by MMOwanderer

The problem is you started this. You title reads "GW2's overwhelming sucess".

Excuse me, but, how do you know it's a sucess? You see, alot of mmorpgs where also called such a thing by the very companies. Yet, a few months later, they wheren't doing so good. Alot of P2P AND F2P failed and are failing on a financial level. So, how do you know?

See, i'm not saying GW2 will "failz" or whatever, because i can't see the future, but neither can you.

How many copies total where sold? Is NCSoft pleased? Is the game profitable long term? How many keep playing? Etc.

But you start off claiming a fact without evidence. And there lies the problem. You stared this discussion on the wrong foot. Countering with another, sorry if i sound offensive, stupid claim, by saying GW2 is mmo obama and we "can't deny it" is saying the game is amazing and we to accept it.

Again, wrong line. Nobody's mad, bro. This is commum with every mmorpg launch, ok? It's standart.

 

 

Ah, I guess you don't follow the news.   This game is #1 everywhere.     The first PC game to be the #1 game on the sales charts in two years.    Over 400K concurrent users at lauch, the highest number ever.   Over 1 million games in early access, the higest number ever.   Currently the most played MMO in the west.   Will be opening in China later.

 

But thanks for trying:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4

You're kidding, right? You can't be talking about annual sales yet, and if you're talking about weekly sales, let me point you at Diablo 3. For the launch week it had over 700,000 more copies sold. #1 in the world  on the sales chart.

I don't know about the rest of the 'records' that you're claiming, but at least do some research before you make assinine claims like that.

Diablo 3 had a lot of sales, but is not an MMO.  Maybe that's what he meant.  D3 sucked so bad.  D4 wont sell near as much because of that suckiness.

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

You tell us sonoggi. I mean you have done it all on SWTOR foums and more. Why people get mad every time a new MMOS is about to release? why were you mad about it? could it be possible that just like how you dis liked SWTOR and were very vocal about it for months others are doing the same? expressing their dis pleasure? 

If you have the right to be vocal about your hate for particular MMO why is it wrong for others to do the same?

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by MosesZD

Ah, I guess you don't follow the news.   This game is #1 everywhere.     The first PC game to be the #1 game on the sales charts in two years.    Over 400K concurrent users at lauch, the highest number ever.   Over 1 million games in early access, the higest number ever.   Currently the most played MMO in the west.   Will be opening in China later.

 

But thanks for trying:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4

You're kidding, right? You can't be talking about annual sales yet, and if you're talking about weekly sales, let me point you at Diablo 3. For the launch week it had over 700,000 more copies sold. #1 in the world  on the sales chart.

I don't know about the rest of the 'records' that you're claiming, but at least do some research before you make assinine claims like that.

Diablo 3 had a lot of sales, but is not an MMO.  Maybe that's what he meant.  D3 sucked so bad.  D4 wont sell near as much because of that suckiness.

I agree, D3 was the worst. What he said was PC game, though, so that's what I was going by.

Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by MosesZD

Ah, I guess you don't follow the news.   This game is #1 everywhere.     The first PC game to be the #1 game on the sales charts in two years.    Over 400K concurrent users at lauch, the highest number ever.   Over 1 million games in early access, the higest number ever.   Currently the most played MMO in the west.   Will be opening in China later.

 

But thanks for trying:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4

You're kidding, right? You can't be talking about annual sales yet, and if you're talking about weekly sales, let me point you at Diablo 3. For the launch week it had over 700,000 more copies sold. #1 in the world  on the sales chart.

I don't know about the rest of the 'records' that you're claiming, but at least do some research before you make assinine claims like that.

Diablo 3 had a lot of sales, but is not an MMO.  Maybe that's what he meant.  D3 sucked so bad.  D4 wont sell near as much because of that suckiness.

I agree, D3 was the worst. What he said was PC game, though, so that's what I was going by.

I humbly disagree.  D3 was not the worst. Even if you only played 1 character through normal mode once, it was worth the box price compared to 99% of the other PC games out there.

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by rygard49

Originally posted by MosesZD

Ah, I guess you don't follow the news.   This game is #1 everywhere.     The first PC game to be the #1 game on the sales charts in two years.    Over 400K concurrent users at lauch, the highest number ever.   Over 1 million games in early access, the higest number ever.   Currently the most played MMO in the west.   Will be opening in China later.

 

But thanks for trying:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4

You're kidding, right? You can't be talking about annual sales yet, and if you're talking about weekly sales, let me point you at Diablo 3. For the launch week it had over 700,000 more copies sold. #1 in the world  on the sales chart.

I don't know about the rest of the 'records' that you're claiming, but at least do some research before you make assinine claims like that.

Diablo 3 had a lot of sales, but is not an MMO.  Maybe that's what he meant.  D3 sucked so bad.  D4 wont sell near as much because of that suckiness.

I agree, D3 was the worst. What he said was PC game, though, so that's what I was going by.

 

I humbly disagree.  D3 was not the worst. Even if you only played 1 character through normal mode once, it was worth the box price compared to 99% of the other PC games out there.

 

 

To each their own.  One thing about D3 that became clear to me though was that I will never play a game with a RMAH.

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

You tell us sonoggi. I mean you have done it all on SWTOR foums and more. Why people get mad every time a new MMOS is about to release? why were you mad about it? could it be possible that just like how you dis liked SWTOR and were very vocal about it for months others are doing the same? expressing their dis pleasure? 

If you have the right to be vocal about your hate for particular MMO why is it wrong for others to do the same?

Thanks for the insight ...seems like 2 wrongs make a right in your books

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

Do we know it's a success? I mean, I'd be one of the first people to say it's a fine game. I also think SWToR is a fine game. But apparently a whole group of people who bought the game at launch either disagreed or just ran out of things to do and went on to other pastures.

So how shouldn't you see how the game fares a few months down the line before you label it a success? Maybe people will think it's crap after playign it a bit or maybe they will just get to cap and feel they don't want to go back to other zones or run "whatever" for cosmetic gear and just go to other pastures.

Originally posted by Yamota
No one is upset about GW 2's success, that's an only in the mind of the rabid fanboys who sees any criticism of the game as 'hating'.

At the same time, 'overwhelming success' is quite a relative term, since you can also claim that SWTOR is an 'overwhelming success' with what I'm assuming going off of box sales and we all know how that game is going. If anything the thread is a bit to fanboy loving to really have any good arguement about. The title alone speaks that the OP views anyone who views GW2 as anything as a perfect game as being a moron. :)

Originally posted by Purutzil

Originally posted by Yamota
No one is upset about GW 2's success, that's an only in the mind of the rabid fanboys who sees any criticism of the game as 'hating'.

At the same time, 'overwhelming success' is quite a relative term, since you can also claim that SWTOR is an 'overwhelming success' with what I'm assuming going off of box sales and we all know how that game is going. If anything the thread is a bit to fanboy loving to really have any good arguement about. The title alone speaks that the OP views anyone who views GW2 as anything as a perfect game as being a moron. :)

Agreed and also would like to say that commercial success is not the same thing as success for me as a gamer. Maybe SW:TOR was a commercial success, maybe it was not, but as an MMORPG it was not particulary good.

Originally posted by Psychow

I humbly disagree.  D3 was not the worst. Even if you only played 1 character through normal mode once, it was worth the box price compared to 99% of the other PC games out there.

Fair enough, I overstated. It's clearly not the worst game ever made, and I did get my money's worth in /played. It was a case of my expectations getting ahead of reality, and the dissatisfaction that followed is negatively warping the actual fun I had playing.

I think they really missed the mark on that one, though.

Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Originally posted by krakra70

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

What overwhelming success? The game has already peaked 8 days after its release. It's all downhill from here on.

peaked according to who? you?

according to this: http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

Originally posted by sonoggi
Why Are People Upset About GW2's Overwhelming Success?

Because people swallowed luke warm, nicely worded bullet point "innovation" as the second coming and now start to realize they got framed?

Or because GW2 is just another iteration of a "medieval fantasy MMO" grinder with mediocre questing?

I don´t know, does it deserve overwhelming success?

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Originally posted by krakra70

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

What overwhelming success? The game has already peaked 8 days after its release. It's all downhill from here on.

peaked according to who? you?

 Kraka has an agenda keep in mind; screams of shill or a player who has an axe to grind.

Unlike the hundreds of fanboys in here who actually DO have an agenda I'm actually a disappointed GW2 player who is already 80 and can't even log in even more.

I'm guessing people have too high expectation nowadays for games. If the game doesn't meet their expecations then they go rant off on forums to get attention for some reason. I am ashamed to say that I actually did the same with WoW but it wasn't on forums it was to my friends.

I mean WoW was successful and I had fun with it and I grew tired of it after the same old same old. Sure, I find it funny that people still stick to it but it's their choice, I shouldn't start bashing them for it or the game even.

If people can't see that about GW2 then I feel sorry for them, the game is successful and whatever you say can't change that. Let people enjoy the game in peace and go play the game that you enjoy playing. ^^

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

Why are you wasting time asking for answers to questions you will not accept and will only try to discredit? Why are YOU so upset that other people don't hold ths game in as high reguard as you? Do you understand what the word objectively really means?

For the answers to all these questions and more tune in tomorrow to "Pendantic Self Aggrandisement Theatre" Sponsered by Kool-Aid brand drink mix.

Originally posted by Misaris

Originally posted by sonoggi
Why Are People Upset About GW2's Overwhelming Success?

 

Because people swallowed luke warm, nicely worded bullet point "innovation" as the second coming and now start to realize they got framed?

Or because GW2 is just another iteration of a "medieval fantasy MMO" grinder with mediocre questing?

I don´t know, does it deserve overwhelming success?

 

The image of swallowing a luke warm second coming made me gag.

Originally posted by sonoggi
maybe mmorpg.com is where these people congregate, which would explain the frequency of such strange threads, maybe it's their alts posting. but why would you be MAD about it bros? the game is epic, and even when u look at it completely objectively, at the very least it's above the average. 

You have your opinion.  Why are they not allowed to have their opinion?

I'm allergic to nuts.  Over the years, I've grown used to seeing advertising for all sorts of products with nuts.  I've grown used to checking labels on packaging to see if the item was processed in a plant that also processed nuts.  I've grown used to having to tell a waitress a thousand times that trying to scrape nuts off of my dessert is not the same as not having put them on there in the first place.  There are folks out there that love nuts - think nuts are the best thing ever - they have nuts in everything.

That doesn't change that I'm allergic to them nor my opinion of them...

...so you have your opinion, why are others not allowed to have their opinions again?

Originally posted by Zecktorin
GW2 is a great fun little game, but it is in no wya shape or form an "overwhelming sucess". However, im not trying to be a hater and grats to Anet for putting out a good game, but the hype alot of people put into the game was uncalled for.

Yep, it's hard to see it not being so much folks being upset about GW2...as folks being upset with other folks claiming GW2 will trim the edges and butter your bread.