Originally posted by Thralia

Originally posted by SBE1

Trying to find answers to a few questions about the game.  I hope you enlightened folks don't mind answering it.

 

1) My primary focus is PvP, particularly large-scale open world "zerg" PvP.  I was really excited about hearing the WvWvW thing ala DAOC style.  However, I then read about ques (long ques) to get into WvWvW.  So I'm wondering: how many people are allowed in WvWvW at a time?  Is it zergy (which for me is fun), or is it small man teams roaming around?  

2) How are the seige battles?   Is it primarily focusing on doors or is there some additional strategy?  Are most forts well defended or do people just go from one objective to the next?  The worst example would be say SWTOR where objectives could be taken in Ilum by 1 person in about 10 seconds.  The best example would be classic DAOC defended relic keeps.  

3) How is the lag in WvWvW?  

4) Does anyone have a link to minimum computer specs?  Couldn't find it.  

 

Thanks in advance.  

open world pvp doesnt exist in guild wars 2. even a complete open world doesnt exist. citys and pvp areas and whatnot are all instanced.  u can only enter pvp W v W v W zones thru many many portal.

 

DAoC had a open world which allowed ganking ppl. that isnt possible in GW2 since u can not attack ppl outside of pvp instances.

Cities are not instanced - SORRY - another case of someone not understanding the game. WvWvW is and so are dungeons but the rest of the world is similar in nature to WoW - here you have a gate to go through to switch areas (but not instanced since there are many people playing).

DaOC is dead - who cares.

Instead of making a new thread I will ask here,..

GW2 just opened thier digital downloads again,..ty,..I refuse to use amazon or best buy,...

I want to buy two copies,.one for me and a friend, can I do this?   and just give him the email with download link and key?

Can it be under his own account?  or wil lthey both be under mine?

We are rl friends for 30+yrs.,.is it better just to give him my cc info on his side?

ty

Originally posted by SBE1

Trying to find answers to a few questions about the game.  I hope you enlightened folks don't mind answering it.

 

1) My primary focus is PvP, particularly large-scale open world "zerg" PvP.  I was really excited about hearing the WvWvW thing ala DAOC style.  However, I then read about ques (long ques) to get into WvWvW.  So I'm wondering: how many people are allowed in WvWvW at a time?  Is it zergy (which for me is fun), or is it small man teams roaming around?  

2) How are the seige battles?   Is it primarily focusing on doors or is there some additional strategy?  Are most forts well defended or do people just go from one objective to the next?  The worst example would be say SWTOR where objectives could be taken in Ilum by 1 person in about 10 seconds.  The best example would be classic DAOC defended relic keeps.  

3) How is the lag in WvWvW?  

4) Does anyone have a link to minimum computer specs?  Couldn't find it.  

 

Thanks in advance.  

I will say right now if you are only going to play for WvW just don't get the game until they fix it. You can not get in most of the time and the server balancing is just broken.

Now when you do have a balanced fight the WvW is great and the seige battles are some of the best PvP i have experienced.

No lag in PvP on a standard system with a 7yr video card.

WvW is pretty sweet. There are queues and they can be long. I think the limit is 500 in WvW zone at the moment. I know they plan to expand it over time and there are overflow state servers as well, so sometimes the queue is reasonable and sometimes it is just way too long. There is only so much they can do to immediately remedy that issue so a little patience is required on our part.

The wait is worth it. The combat is fast and furious and the actionable areas are nicely spaced to give room to roam but not so much that it feels like you have to walk for days to find the fight. Sieging is fun but it is still a misunderstood art at the moment. It will be refined by the players over time and Anet is watching to see what they need to adjust/add/remove to make it as smooth and epic feeling as possible. I feel WvW will become the crown jewel of GW2 but it isn't quite there yet.

The lag issue is present, especially on lower end machines, but it isn't a game killer for many players (realistically). If you expect 300 combatants raging away on your screen at once with no slow down at all you are going to be miffed. If you realize that even current technology has it's limits and systems like WvW are pushing those limits you'll be fine. My lap top (i5 2.9ghz/8 gigs ram/nvidia 555M) does fine. It isn't the most glorious thing ever but it's functional even in WvW. I play on medium setting with shadows on low.

In the end, if you (like myself) were a DAOC RvR fan, you will enjoy WvW. The rest of the game is pretty bad@ss in it's own right as well, so go for it and I think you'll be rewarded!

Originally posted by warchant

WvW is pretty sweet. There are queues and they can be long. I think the limit is 500 in WvW zone at the moment. I know they plan to expand it over time and there are overflow state servers as well, so sometimes the queue is reasonable and sometimes it is just way too long. There is only so much they can do to immediately remedy that issue so a little patience is required on our part.

The wait is worth it. The combat is fast and furious and the actionable areas are nicely spaced to give room to roam but not so much that it feels like you have to walk for days to find the fight. Sieging is fun but it is still a misunderstood art at the moment. It will be refined by the players over time and Anet is watching to see what they need to adjust/add/remove to make it as smooth and epic feeling as possible. I feel WvW will become the crown jewel of GW2 but it isn't quite there yet.

The lag issue is present, especially on lower end machines, but it isn't a game killer for many players (realistically). If you expect 300 combatants raging away on your screen at once with no slow down at all you are going to be miffed. If you realize that even current technology has it's limits and systems like WvW are pushing those limits you'll be fine. My lap top (i5 2.9ghz/8 gigs ram/nvidia 555M) does fine. It isn't the most glorious thing ever but it's functional even in WvW. I play on medium setting with shadows on low.

In the end, if you (like myself) were a DAOC RvR fan, you will enjoy WvW. The rest of the game is pretty bad@ss in it's own right as well, so go for it and I think you'll be rewarded!

Please note that WvW does not have an overlow server!

Originally posted by pauly6478

Play GW1 game is million times better then this trash will ever be. 

 

Sorry  - I like GW1 but GW2 is much better and more advanced in most ways. I just wished the mesmer profession used the exact skills as in GW1 - not just the names of the skills.

This is WvW = 4 hour wait time, get in 5 min run to fight, impossible to have organization with 200 gamers(30% raging 12 year olds), fight and battle or defend for hour or so, realize that there is no point to what is going on (We take this now you take it back 2 hours later.. k?), get killed, 5min  run back, get killed, "why you no revive me?" 5 min run back, "common sense says we need to go defend this point", NO MUST CHASE DOWN PEOPLE AND KILL THEM OFF AWAY FROM ANYTHING MEANINGFUL"

But I will say it was fun for the first hour before it became repetitive and meaningless.

I can share my vieuw with you on some points you are interested in:

WvW queues:
Desolation
Gunner's Hold
Far Shiverpeaks <---Dutch/Scandinavian community

All those 3 servers have 1 to 5 hours queue for WvW, there seems to be a bug that if you change zone queue is reseted (not confirmed i think?)

I think the numbers are 165v165v165 or 150v150v150 for the time being.

ive been in battles with auto attacking keep doors for days and ive been in battles where people setup up battering rams / Balista's / catapults / even Trebuchets.

Ive also been in battles where people defend their keep like its the last piece of heaven.
Battle for that keep can take hours and hours and makes it epic, but and this is a major let down for me personaly in WvW atm, Ive upgraded keeps with karma and silver.
WHen it was under attack no1 came to assist and defend the keep....when that keep is taken you lose all upgrades :(

I have no lag tbh, my system is from 2008..I7extreme 920 2.6mhz - Ati 4859 - 6gig ram.
100Mbit connection.
That doesnt mean i dont have a occasional hickup, but not often to say it frequent.

Multi core procesors are doing quite good in GW2 specialy Intel + Ati cards, ive heared alot of Nvidia users with a 680 are heaving low fps, iam not a tech guy so i cant comment on that one as i have no Nvidia card :)

Like i said my system is quite old in terms for gaming and it runs GW2 quite good, except when you have 50 deffenders and 50 attackers around and all that violance is making my hamsters die to 10/15 fps, even on low settings.

If you have a solid gaming rig i expect 30 fps+ in those monster situations tough :)

I think it's ~100 players per zone per faction (red/green/blue), yesterday all the zones were full and queued, it was ridiculous.

Originally posted by SBE1

Trying to find answers to a few questions about the game.  I hope you enlightened folks don't mind answering it.

 

1) My primary focus is PvP, particularly large-scale open world "zerg" PvP.  I was really excited about hearing the WvWvW thing ala DAOC style.  However, I then read about ques (long ques) to get into WvWvW.  So I'm wondering: how many people are allowed in WvWvW at a time?  Is it zergy (which for me is fun), or is it small man teams roaming around?  

2) How are the seige battles?   Is it primarily focusing on doors or is there some additional strategy?  Are most forts well defended or do people just go from one objective to the next?  The worst example would be say SWTOR where objectives could be taken in Ilum by 1 person in about 10 seconds.  The best example would be classic DAOC defended relic keeps.  

3) How is the lag in WvWvW?  

4) Does anyone have a link to minimum computer specs?  Couldn't find it.  

 

Thanks in advance.  

1- There are 4 massive maps total, each map holds 500 players so WvW total is 2000 players.

zerg's happen most notably during keep / castle siege and defence.

2- this is where it get's interesting, fun and somewhat complicated, see you can go bash on the keep door with 50+ players, or you can take supply with you and construct siege weapons like catapults, battling rams and ballista to take down the door quicker, you can also do hit and run missions or simply distraction tactics to slow down the enemy while you take other keeps, there's so much strategy here it's impossible to tell all.

3- this is a point of confusion atm, some people claim to have lag but in reality the fact is their system cannot handle the massive battles and the fps drops drastically, if you have a good system (intel i5k or better) with a decent gpu you will almost never experience any FPS / lag issues at all, notice I didn't say it never happens it just very rarely does.

4- http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Running_the_game

Originally posted by Tabloid42

Instead of making a new thread I will ask here,..

 

GW2 just opened thier digital downloads again,..ty,..I refuse to use amazon or best buy,...

 

I want to buy two copies,.one for me and a friend, can I do this?   and just give him the email with download link and key?

Can it be under his own account?  or wil lthey both be under mine?

We are rl friends for 30+yrs.,.is it better just to give him my cc info on his side?

 

ty

Yes, of course you can do it, but you need to use his email for the purchase.

If you use yours, then it will be linked to your email... but maybe it can be changed later with some work. Still using his email will make sure it is linked to his email, he will receive a email with the registration info later on, but you also need to select a user id and password for him at start.

Originally posted by pauly6478

This is WvW = 4 hour wait time, get in 5 min run to fight, impossible to have organization with 200 gamers(30% raging 12 year olds), fight and battle or defend for hour or so, realize that there is no point to what is going on (We take this now you take it back 2 hours later.. k?), get killed, 5min  run back, get killed, "why you no revive me?" 5 min run back, "common sense says we need to go defend this point", NO MUST CHASE DOWN PEOPLE AND KILL THEM OFF AWAY FROM ANYTHING MEANINGFUL"

But I will say it was fun for the first hour before it became repetitive and meaningless.

Other then lack of some greater organisation i didnt experience anything you said. I dont know if there is some meaning to it other then having fun, though.

Buy the game 

and 

Then never visit these forums again .. you will enjoy things so much better :)

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Originally posted by Requiem1066
Buy the game 

and 

Then never visit these forums again .. you will enjoy things so much better :)

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Originally posted by sookster54

 

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Originally posted by Requiem1066
Buy the game 

 

and 

Then never visit these forums again .. you will enjoy things so much better :)

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I agree, the posters on this site has gotten bad over the past year or so now, I don't even know why I still come here.

 

At least here your post wont get deleted if you say something inconvenient for developers.

You'll find fanboys, haters and trolls on every official forum too.

1) My primary focus is PvP, particularly large-scale open world "zerg" PvP.  I was really excited about hearing the WvWvW thing ala DAOC style.  However, I then read about ques (long ques) to get into WvWvW.  So I'm wondering: how many people are allowed in WvWvW at a time?  Is it zergy (which for me is fun), or is it small man teams roaming around?  

Not 100% sure about this point, but from experience, typically during prime time, you WILL be in queue. Theres no real avoiding it. Once the hype is done and a lot stop playing, I'm sure the queue will lessen and you can get in easier.

2) How are the seige battles?   Is it primarily focusing on doors or is there some additional strategy?  Are most forts well defended or do people just go from one objective to the next?  The worst example would be say SWTOR where objectives could be taken in Ilum by 1 person in about 10 seconds.  The best example would be classic DAOC defended relic keeps.  

Truthfully, its all about doors. It looks like they were considering breaking walls and other factors, but right now its all on doors. Strategy is pretty limited though typically will defend or attack. In terms of defending/attacking, its not bad at all and it can get quite hectic, though its pretty much goes that the biggest zerg will win, with Seige weapons for offense playing quite a large part in an easier victory.

3) How is the lag in WvWvW?  

Eh... bit iffy at times though not to bad, mostly the noraml expectations of zerg verse zerg.

If your really into DAOC, you probably would really enjoy the WvW... getting the levels to be the most efficient in WvW would probably be the biggest downfall since it makes you do PvE to get anywhere quick, or prepare to be in WvW for some time before you reach it.

Originally posted by Thralia

Originally posted by SBE1 

Thanks in advance.  

open world pvp doesnt exist in guild wars 2. even a complete open world doesnt exist. citys and pvp areas and whatnot are all instanced.  u can only enter pvp W v W v W zones thru many many portal.

 

DAoC had a open world which allowed ganking ppl. that isnt possible in GW2 since u can not attack ppl outside of pvp instances.

Since the op didn't ask for open world pvp and since DAoC didn't have open world   pvp I'm not sure why you even bothered posting ....I find it frustrating to have to que for WvW but it's a good sign for the amount of folks enjoying playing

Originally posted by pauly6478

This is WvW = 4 hour wait time, get in 5 min run to fight, impossible to have organization with 200 gamers(30% raging 12 year olds), fight and battle or defend for hour or so, realize that there is no point to what is going on (We take this now you take it back 2 hours later.. k?), get killed, 5min  run back, get killed, "why you no revive me?" 5 min run back, "common sense says we need to go defend this point", NO MUST CHASE DOWN PEOPLE AND KILL THEM OFF AWAY FROM ANYTHING MEANINGFUL"

But I will say it was fun for the first hour before it became repetitive and meaningless.

So you have never played GW2 and just thought you would jump in and flame?Not sure what you are talking about but it sure isn't GW2 WvW