Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by jpnz

Issue is that 90% of the trailer didn't represent the game anyway.

Why not tell a story or something with in-game graphics like the last 10sec of that trailer?

But the trailer tells a story and contains a message. Of course, it's not as obvious as Kung Fu Panda owning an orc and a humen (I like that trailer a lot too, don't get me wrong).

EDIT: at least Raekon got it too :)

I got it alright,just didn't like it,does that make you more intelligent than me or the rest of us who got it but didn't like it?

 

 

Originally posted by Nikkita

Bored at work...and posting total of 4 times in a hilarious topic where crazy fans keep telling others 'you don't get it' would hardly be a crusade.

However i still prefer their hand painted style trailers. If i never knew about GW2 i will just watch this trailer and look the other side.

Pot calling the kettle black... but whatever.

I agree the hand painted trailers are nothing short of amazing, I like them a lot too.

Stop assuming you and your buddy are the only ones who got it and the rest of us are just thick,god forbid we just didn't like it.

 

I didn't knew that "the korrigan" is my buddy so thanks for the info on that. ^_^

Other than that I already replied earlier to your negative post towards me so maybe you should take a look at it and understand that my posting had nothing to do with the people that disliked the trailer but rather with the people that really didn't understood the background of it?

Reminds me of this...

It's time to slay the dragon!

Originally posted by timtrack

There are thousands of gameplay videos/trailers/previews on youtube and they have been around for years. Informed gamers have already seen them and potential costumers are teased to go look for them.

This trailer/commercial is brilliant. The fact that so many hipsters around here didn't like it only proves how good it is.

Well done i say.

 Lol

This thread just keeps getting better and better

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

According to you the people that called such names had called them towards people that disliked the trailer so there is indeed a difference between what they did and what I did.

There were several people that indeed didn't understood the trailer and it has nothing to do with intelligence in the first place but rather with imagination and understanding of art.

Also with the fact that the trailer were full of hidden messages that also needed one to have some knowledge about the company and the game to understand.

That's why it was normal that some might not understand it in the first place.

As example: many people can draw but they do it differently, some can take a picture of one and draw a portrait flawlessly but lack the imagination to come up with something to draw out of their own imagination.

Other artists again can draw you fantastic creatures from outer space out of their own imagination but can't "replicate" a already taken picture by redrawing it.

Others can do both and are considered as top talents because "they can do it all".

Heck you can put a "natural" next to a "learned" concept artist and the natural could bring better things on the table than the learned one because the "natural" has more talent and has it easier in that case where the "learned" one has to try hard and put everything he/she learned into place to bring out something good (only as example).

So it comes down to perception and ways of thinking as also the amount of imagination.

Only because you are as negative as you seem to be thought your postings, it doesnt mean that everyone is like that nor that you are right with your opinion about me.

Try to think a little bit more positive in the future, it will help you a lot.

As a sidenote: If you think that the trailer represents solely GW2 as a game or as a "buy me" trailer, then you really didn't got the trailer either. ^_^

So the general conclusion around those who didn't like it seems to be "it didn't tell me a cool, im-game story about GW2, so I didn't like it"? A bit like "the trailer didn't do what I think it should do, so I didn't like it". Not only that, but we see comments such as "that was the worst trailer ever" or "this will do the game more harm then good". I mean really? How can one asume these people are nothing but dense? Comments like that are just blown right out of proportion.

If you say something like "It's the worst trailer i've ever seen and i don't like it" i simply can not take you seriously. Even if it didn't resonate with you, even if it didn't make you want to buy the game, even if you thought it was ugly, it is in no shape way or form the worst trailer ever made. That's a fact, not an opinion.

It also seems to be common to claim that "the message in the video is simple to grasp but it has nothing to do with GW2, therefor i don't like it". If you don't see how it has everything to do with GW2 and Arenanet (the creator of GW2) you cannot claim that the message was simple to grasp, because you didn't get it. Then i can, without shame, call you thick for not getting it while claiming that you got it.

So, if you actually didn't like it. Try to say something other then "lol it's the worst trailer i've ever seen, it has nothing to do with GW2. But i totally get the message cause it's so simple". Because if you do, you are in fact dense and people will call you so.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

I like the trailer, at least it's different from all the costy CGI trailers.

I guess those who don't like it just want some flashy computer generated stuff which in no way reflects the game anyway.

 

Yes...I'm sure that is the case. Not enough flashy stuff. Wtf are some of you smoking?

Obviously better stuff than those that made that ad.

Originally posted by timtrack

So the general conclusion around those who didn't like it seems to be "it didn't tell me a cool, im-game story about GW2, so I didn't like it"? A bit like "the trailer didn't do what I think it should do, so I didn't like it". Not only that, but we see comments such as "that was the worst trailer ever" or "this will do the game more harm then good". I mean really? How can one asume these people are nothing but dense? Comments like that are just blown right out of proportion.

If you say something like "It's the worst trailer i've ever seen and i don't like it" i simply can not take you seriously. Even if it didn't resonate with you, even if it didn't make you want to buy the game, even if you thought it was ugly, it is in no shape way or form the worst trailer ever made. That's a fact, not an opinion.

It also seems to be common to claim that "the message in the video is simple to grasp but it has nothing to do with GW2, therefor i don't like it". If you don't see how it has everything to do with GW2 and Arenanet (the creator of GW2) you cannot claim that the message was simple to grasp, because you didn't get it. Then i can, without shame, call you thick for not getting it while claiming that you got it.

 

So, if you actually didn't like it. Try to say something other then "lol it's the worst trailer i've ever seen, it has nothing to do with GW2. But i totally get the message cause it's so simple". Because if you do, you are in fact dense and people will call you so.

 Why should anyone have to? Does it make any sense to call you dense or a fanboy for liking it? What reason does anyone have to justify their dislike of the ad for you? What difference does their reason for not liking it make?

Try to be a bit less pretentious. Might do you well.

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

According to you the people that called such names had called them towards people that disliked the trailer so there is indeed a difference between what they did and what I did.

There were several people that indeed didn't understood the trailer and it has nothing to do with intelligence in the first place but rather with imagination and understanding of art.

Also with the fact that the trailer were full of hidden messages that also needed one to have some knowledge about the company and the game to understand.

That's why it was normal that some might not understand it in the first place.

As example: many people can draw but they do it differently, some can take a picture of one and draw a portrait flawlessly but lack the imagination to come up with something to draw out of their own imagination.

Other artists again can draw you fantastic creatures from outer space out of their own imagination but can't "replicate" a already taken picture by redrawing it.

Others can do both and are considered as top talents because "they can do it all".

Heck you can put a "natural" next to a "learned" concept artist and the natural could bring better things on the table than the learned one because the "natural" has more talent and has it easier in that case where the "learned" one has to try hard and put everything he/she learned into place to bring out something good (only as example).

So it comes down to perception and ways of thinking as also the amount of imagination.

Only because you are as negative as you seem to be thought your postings, it doesnt mean that everyone is like that nor that you are right with your opinion about me.

Try to think a little bit more positive in the future, it will help you a lot.

As a sidenote: If you think that the trailer represents GW2 then you really didn't got the trailer either. ^_^

My first comment was 'i will pretend i never saw it'. I didn't even bother posting here till fans started calling people dense, stupid and what not for disliking the trailer.

I don't know what is more negative..just to give your opinion on why you dislike the trailer or fans targeting you for giving an opinion. Just notice how people were simply giving an opinion about the trailer and got attacked by fans.

This is the problem here. Some people are just subtle about it while others are in your face with name calling. Hard to make a difference when you can't say anything bad or slightly negative about GW2 without getting attacked personaly.

And yes for me this trailer doesn't represent GW2.

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

According to you the people that called such names had called them towards people that disliked the trailer so there is indeed a difference between what they did and what I did.

There were several people that indeed didn't understood the trailer and it has nothing to do with intelligence in the first place but rather with imagination and understanding of art.

Also with the fact that the trailer were full of hidden messages that also needed one to have some knowledge about the company and the game to understand.

Are u kidding me? u call this trailer ART? a Blind man can see that this trailer is total garbage. has ur fanatism for gw2 no limits?

Arent u forgetting who the TARGET AUDIENCE is of this trailer?  For sure not ppl who already baught it and are playing it.

how should a person who never heard of guild wars 2 know anything about the company or the game and the hidden messages.

this is ridiculous.

#//

it blows my mind when i think of a reason why they chose to release such a trailer if there have been FAR better trailers of GW2.

Originally posted by timtrack

So the general conclusion around those who didn't like it seems to be "it didn't tell me a cool, im-game story about GW2, so I didn't like it"? A bit like "the trailer didn't do what I think it should do, so I didn't like it". Not only that, but we see comments such as "that was the worst trailer ever" or "this will do the game more harm then good". I mean really? How can one asume these people are nothing but dense? Comments like that are just blown right out of proportion.

If you say something like "It's the worst trailer i've ever seen and i don't like it" i simply can not take you seriously. Even if it didn't resonate with you, even if it didn't make you want to buy the game, even if you thought it was ugly, it is in no shape way or form the worst trailer ever made. That's a fact, not an opinion.

It also seems to be common to claim that "the message in the video is simple to grasp but it has nothing to do with GW2, therefor i don't like it". If you don't see how it has everything to do with GW2 and Arenanet (the creator of GW2) you cannot claim that the message was simple to grasp, because you didn't get it. Then i can, without shame, call you thick for not getting it while claiming that you got it.

 

So, if you actually didn't like it. Try to say something other then "lol it's the worst trailer i've ever seen, it has nothing to do with GW2. But i totally get the message cause it's so simple". Because if you do, you are in fact dense and people will call you so.

In your assumption that it had intentional underlying messages that only people familiar with MMORPGs, specifically with the company Arenanet, would understand, the question arises: why on Earth would they create that video in the first place then? The manifesto is enough.

Either MMORPG connoisseurs is the main target audience, in which case they did a horrible job or the mainstream non-MMORPG public is the target audience in which case they also did a horrible job. "Horrible" is of course strictly my opinion.

Originally posted by Thralia

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

According to you the people that called such names had called them towards people that disliked the trailer so there is indeed a difference between what they did and what I did.

There were several people that indeed didn't understood the trailer and it has nothing to do with intelligence in the first place but rather with imagination and understanding of art.

Also with the fact that the trailer were full of hidden messages that also needed one to have some knowledge about the company and the game to understand.

Are u kidding me? u call this trailer ART? a Blind man can see that this trailer is total garbage. has ur fanatism for gw2 no limits?

 

Arent u forgetting who the TARGET AUDIENCE is of this trailer?  For sure not ppl who already baught it and are playing it.

how should a person who never heard of guild wars 2 know anything about the company or the game and the hidden messages.

this is ridiculous.

 

#//

 

it blows my mind when i think of a reason why they chose to release such a trailer if there have been FAR better trailers of GW2.

Since you obviously didn't read my previous posts about what I think about the trailer:

- this is NOT a "Buy GW2" trailer

- this IS a "we are ANet and we did things differently to break the mold of the old mmo ways by creating GW2" trailer 

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by timtrack

So the general conclusion around those who didn't like it seems to be "it didn't tell me a cool, im-game story about GW2, so I didn't like it"? A bit like "the trailer didn't do what I think it should do, so I didn't like it". Not only that, but we see comments such as "that was the worst trailer ever" or "this will do the game more harm then good". I mean really? How can one asume these people are nothing but dense? Comments like that are just blown right out of proportion.

If you say something like "It's the worst trailer i've ever seen and i don't like it" i simply can not take you seriously. Even if it didn't resonate with you, even if it didn't make you want to buy the game, even if you thought it was ugly, it is in no shape way or form the worst trailer ever made. That's a fact, not an opinion.

It also seems to be common to claim that "the message in the video is simple to grasp but it has nothing to do with GW2, therefor i don't like it". If you don't see how it has everything to do with GW2 and Arenanet (the creator of GW2) you cannot claim that the message was simple to grasp, because you didn't get it. Then i can, without shame, call you thick for not getting it while claiming that you got it.

 

So, if you actually didn't like it. Try to say something other then "lol it's the worst trailer i've ever seen, it has nothing to do with GW2. But i totally get the message cause it's so simple". Because if you do, you are in fact dense and people will call you so.

 Why should anyone have to? Does it make any sense to call you dense or a fanboy for liking it? What reason does anyone have to justify their dislike of the ad for you? What difference does their reason for not liking it make?

Try to be a bit less pretentious. Might do you well.

You don't HAVE to breathe either, it's optional.

I like this new buzzword, pretentious.

Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

 

In your assumption that it had intentional underlying messages that only people familiar with MMORPGs, specifically with the company Arenanet, would understand, the question arises: why on Earth would they create that video in the first place then? The manifesto is enough.

 

Either MMORPG connoisseurs is the main target audience, in which case they did a horrible job or the mainstream non-MMORPG public is the target audience in which case they also did a horrible job. "Horrible" is of course strictly my opinion.

 I think that is an underlying theme many are conveying. It simply isn't a very useful marketing tool compared to how Anet has handled things so far and what they had available to them.

But really, who are we to stand in the way of art?

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Thralia

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Raekon

 

there is a difference between the two you know?

There is difference between not liking and not understanding.

If people say "what is this?' doesn't necessarily means they don't get it. It means they are surprised because for them it is bad way to represent GW2. You did question their mental ability to understand the trailer just like the rest who called tem dense and hipsters.

You were just more polite that is all.

According to you the people that called such names had called them towards people that disliked the trailer so there is indeed a difference between what they did and what I did.

There were several people that indeed didn't understood the trailer and it has nothing to do with intelligence in the first place but rather with imagination and understanding of art.

Also with the fact that the trailer were full of hidden messages that also needed one to have some knowledge about the company and the game to understand.

Are u kidding me? u call this trailer ART? a Blind man can see that this trailer is total garbage. has ur fanatism for gw2 no limits?

 

Arent u forgetting who the TARGET AUDIENCE is of this trailer?  For sure not ppl who already baught it and are playing it.

how should a person who never heard of guild wars 2 know anything about the company or the game and the hidden messages.

this is ridiculous.

 

#//

 

it blows my mind when i think of a reason why they chose to release such a trailer if there have been FAR better trailers of GW2.

Since you obviously didn't read my previous posts about what I think about the trailer:

- this is NOT a "Buy GW2" trailer

- this IS a "we are ANet and we did things differently to break the mold of the old mmo ways by creating GW2" trailer 

So you are saying that the target audience are players from other MMOs who have not yet bought Guild Wars 2?

Originally posted by timtrack

You don't HAVE to breathe either, it's optional.

 

I like this new buzzword, pretentious.

 Feel free to replace that with your hipster novelty. I always love teaching others new words. Makes the world a better place.

Originally posted by Raekon

Since you obviously didn't read my previous posts about what I think about the trailer:

- this is NOT a "Buy GW2" trailer

- this IS a "we are ANet and we did things differently to break the mold of the old mmo ways by creating GW2" trailer 

You're suggesting that it doesn't even have a "target audience" - ANet just spent all that money to make a statement?

I knew there was something the title was making me remember.

IMO, this should be the game's new theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAa3NvP6f4