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  Thorbrand

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Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 1217

9/11/12 12:23:51 PM#61

I never use it or need it. Friends, guildies with a quick shout and you have a group to do a dungeon.

Just saying why join a pure pug with a tool?

  WereLlama

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Joined: 2/13/12
Posts: 197

9/11/12 12:29:49 PM#62

I hope the LFD does become standard.

Most of us know that people are happiest when the connect with other players.  The challenge is that people connect in different ways, all of which are healthy. 

Common examples of human connection:

1. Deep meaningful friendships (quality over quantity)

2. Shallow but large amounts of friends (quantity over quality)

3. Domination or Leader   ( one needs to lead the other to be happy, some even need to enslave others )

4. Follower or Trophy or Slave  ( one needs to follow or be rewarded to another to be happy, some even need to be slaves)

MMOs have captured this socialology via Raiding, Group Quests, Meeting locations, and especially LFD.  Some want to be Group Leaders, some want to Follow, some want to be a tool to anonymous people, some want to come to their defense.

Catering to only a few social types might limit your player's enjoyment.

-Blitz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Thorbrand

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Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 1217

9/11/12 12:33:20 PM#63
The same people that want a LFD tool are the same people that leave a PvP raid because they joined 2mins ago and it is taking to long to get started yet it takes hours sometimes to get a full raid together.
  Ridelynn

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Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 3323

9/11/12 12:45:57 PM#64

I have a love-hate relationship with this.

I liked the original EQ method - you had a LFG flag, and you could search easily for everyone who was LFG. You could even refine it by class and level, to find everyone, across the entire server, who voluntarily put themselves up for LFG. You could be anywhere, doing anything, and just /LFG and have the flag show up on your head.

This is also how GW2 does it right now.

That was it. It was simple and semi-effective. You still had to do some legwork, but it made it easy to accomplish.
/who all LFG

WoW didn't have that. They had a dungeon finder where you had to run to the dungeon and stand around and wait. It sucked. Badly. No one used it, so everyone just defaulted to trade spam inside the cities.

And with the automatic dungeon finder - I like how easy it is - you just join, and eventually you'll pop up inside a (semi-)functional group for your dungeon. No running to the dungeon, no looking for people, just click and wait. It's very easy and convenient, I like that. The WoW one goes cross-servers, so wait times, even for overloaded classes and obscure dungeons, is pretty low.

I hate a few things about it:
* You can't preview the group before you go in. I know with the LFG flag, I could ask a few questions about the group (how long they planned on grouping, if there were anyone I had blacklisted in the group, if the group makeup wasn't going to work), and make a decision before committing. With LFD - I just join group, and then I have to feel like a asshat backing out if it doesn't meet my expectations/desires.

* People from cross-servers, so it's really hard to meet new people and build lasting relationships when your constantly thrown in with new random people. THis is the biggest thing - I mainly do LFG/LFD to meet new people (I don't have a lot of real life friends that play the games I do, and usually am in small guilds), so I would go and run dungeons to meet new people. If I liked them and they made a good impression (usually over the course of several runs), we'd group together more often. In EQ, it wouldn't be uncommon to group with the same people several times over the course of several weeks, and you really got to know people who played on your server in your time zone. With the cross-server LFD, you play once with someone and never see them again.

* You just poof inside your dungeon. It's better than running out there and standing around and waiting, but at the same time, I don't mind actually running to the dungeon with my party - getting there makes the world seem... more real. Just poofing there is more convenient, and when I'm short on time and patience I love it, but really... I don't. I seem somewhat schizophrenic on this issue.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19248

 
OP  9/11/12 12:55:34 PM#65
Originally posted by dave6660
 

No I haven't put anyone on the friend list I've met through the LFG tool.  Those groups usually fall apart pretty fast.  Rarely do they ever survive the first wipe.  I was never a big fan of PUG groups no matter how they formed.  Running group content as a guild almost always turns out better.

Playing along side NPC's are great for single player games.  I play mmorpg's to play along side real people.

Not everyone has a guild that is on whether you want a group.

And yes, they don't survive the first wipe. Usually i am the first to be out of there. However, how many friends do i actually need and can keep up with? There are *few* players that i met are good ... granted they are few ... but given the number of groups, there are MORE than enough to fill my friend list.

Heck, usually i won't bother unless i really like the player.

And i play MMORPG to have fun ... and if the game is fun playing like a online co-op game, i will do so.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19248

 
OP  9/11/12 12:56:09 PM#66
Originally posted by Thorbrand
The same people that want a LFD tool are the same people that leave a PvP raid because they joined 2mins ago and it is taking to long to get started yet it takes hours sometimes to get a full raid together.

HOURS to get a full raid .. of course i am out of there. Who has time to wait HOURS to play a GAME? I don't. May be you do.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19248

 
OP  9/11/12 12:57:43 PM#67
Originally posted by Thorbrand

I never use it or need it. Friends, guildies with a quick shout and you have a group to do a dungeon.

Just saying why join a pure pug with a tool?

Because it is fast?

Not everyone has friends and guildies available whenever you want them. They don't live on your scheduel, do they?

And if i want a PUG, a tool is much better than shouting in chat, and whispering people.

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