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  Grimmx

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OP  9/08/12 4:18:52 PM#61
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Grimmx

I loved DAoC, but i doubt it will be as good as that. Its kinda zergy.

 I think it is fun but if you try running around by yourself you're going to get farmed. Just how it is. Even if you are fortunate enough to run into a 1v1 scenario chances are before it is over one of you is going to get screwed by a bunch of others showing up. You don't have to run around with the zerg raid group but should at least have a few with you. Need a few anyways to take anything besides guard points or taking out caravans anyhow.

Yup like the elementalist i found yesterday that got saved by 3 friends that killed me instead.

Cant really compare it to the solo classes in daoc, you had lots more options to avoid roaming groups. In GW2 you usually just die in seconds.

  shadowman465

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9/08/12 4:22:15 PM#62
I'm not going to say GW2 pvp sucks but it does seem very just zergy but it may be because I'm having a hard time seeing what's really going on.
  Eir_S

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9/08/12 4:26:06 PM#63
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.
  Wickedjelly

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9/08/12 4:26:43 PM#64
Originally posted by Grimmx

Yup like the elementalist i found yesterday that got saved by 3 friends that killed me instead.

Cant really compare it to the solo classes in daoc, you had lots more options to avoid roaming groups. In GW2 you usually just die in seconds.

 I really think sPvP would be more what you want. Honestly even if it is 1v1 in WvW if they're way higher level they're probably going to smoke you unless they suck. Yes...everyone is bumped to 80 but trait points and items do make a difference. As an unfortunate few found out as of late while I was completing the one WvW map so I was actually doing the very thing I said you shouldn't do. Apparently so were they XD

In sPvP everyone is equal as is the gear. Really boils more down to skill. Not guaranteed 1v1s there either but due to the groups being so low in number and several points available to capture tends to happen a lot more frequently and really can't get zerged.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  GeezerGamer

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9/08/12 4:29:32 PM#65
Originally posted by Eir_S
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.

I'm pretty sure it's a joke too, when you are in teh winning group and you don't even get the chance to get in a single hit cuz the other guy was killed instantly.

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  Chrisbox

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9/08/12 4:30:50 PM#66
I translated this as "No one wants to play tournaments with me so I play normals all day and lose because im terrible." 

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  Grimmx

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OP  9/08/12 4:34:42 PM#67
Originally posted by Eir_S
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.

Ouch, you really really hurt my feelings there.

Why bather posting?

  GamerUntouch

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9/08/12 4:34:46 PM#68
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Eir_S
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.

I'm pretty sure it's a joke too, when you are in teh winning group and you don't even get the chance to get in a single hit cuz the other guy was killed instantly.

People are complaining that it's too hard to kill people though, are you talking about WvW?

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

9/08/12 4:36:03 PM#69
Originally posted by Grimmx
Originally posted by Eir_S
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.

Ouch, you really really hurt my feelings there.

Why bather posting?

Hey, I was only guessing your motives, I mostly insulted myself there lol

  GeezerGamer

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9/08/12 4:38:39 PM#70
Originally posted by GamerUntouch
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Eir_S
Sounds like GW2 PvP is only a "joke" when you're not winning.  Don't worry, that's how I am too.  Getting mad won't help though.

I'm pretty sure it's a joke too, when you are in teh winning group and you don't even get the chance to get in a single hit cuz the other guy was killed instantly.

People are complaining that it's too hard to kill people though, are you talking about WvW?

I was responding to the 1 V zerg comment. Stating that it's not fun for either side.

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  Grimmx

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OP  9/08/12 4:40:02 PM#71
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Grimmx

Yup like the elementalist i found yesterday that got saved by 3 friends that killed me instead.

Cant really compare it to the solo classes in daoc, you had lots more options to avoid roaming groups. In GW2 you usually just die in seconds.

 I really think sPvP would be more what you want. Honestly even if it is 1v1 in WvW if they're way higher level they're probably going to smoke you unless they suck. Yes...everyone is bumped to 80 but trait points and items do make a difference. As an unfortunate few found out as of late while I was completing the one WvW map so I was actually doing the very thing I said you shouldn't do. Apparently so were they XD

In sPvP everyone is equal as is the gear. Really boils more down to skill. Not guaranteed 1v1s there either but due to the groups being so low in number and several points available to capture tends to happen a lot more frequently and really can't get zerged.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363783/Finding-it-hard-to-like-the-PvP.html

This guy sums it up better than me, basicly dps is out of hand, ans sPvP zones are too small. Dying does mean something but not enough. As it stands now sPvP reminds me of a shooter.

  Wickedjelly

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9/08/12 4:41:13 PM#72
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I was responding to the 1 V zerg comment. Stating that it's not fun for either side.

 I agree. Zerging one guy when I'm with twenty doesn't really get my rocks off.

Hell in most earlier games if I was PvPing in the open world and came across a player significantly lower level even 1v1 I left them alone unless of course they gave me no choice. Not my thing...don't find it fun...

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Grimmx

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OP  9/08/12 4:43:12 PM#73
Originally posted by Chrisbox
I translated this as "No one wants to play tournaments with me so I play normals all day and lose because im terrible." 

Its more like this.

I think pvp in GW2 kinda suck. What sucks even more is that i cant even get into www because of the que's.

There, you heard it here first.

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

9/08/12 4:45:29 PM#74
Originally posted by Grimmx

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363783/Finding-it-hard-to-like-the-PvP.html

This guy sums it up better than me, basicly dps is out of hand, ans sPvP zones are too small. Dying does mean something but not enough. As it stands now sPvP reminds me of a shooter.

 Well there isn't much you can do if players just want to do that. Honeslty when I PvP in either WvW or SPvP I tend to go more healing/support. I'm an ele and I mainly switch between water and earth. I rarely use fire unless we're on the offensive and things are going smoothly enough that I don't feel a need to.

I think the only time I mainly use fire is when I'm soloing. Not much you can do if other players simply want to dps. Best scenario is get some like minded folks together with to do those events. I can sympathize but it isn't a fault of the game.

Better rewards for PvP would be kind of nice though I agree.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Grimmx

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Joined: 8/30/11
Posts: 199

 
OP  9/08/12 4:47:28 PM#75
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I was responding to the 1 V zerg comment. Stating that it's not fun for either side.

 I agree. Zerging one guy when I'm with twenty doesn't really get my rocks off.

Hell in most earlier games if I was PvPing in the open world and came across a player significantly lower level even 1v1 I left them alone unless of course they gave me no choice. Not my thing...don't find it fun...

Same here, if i cant get anything for killing them i dont.

They must atleast con to me for me to attack.

Jeebus, im bored...maybe its time to buy a new game on steam ^^

  Vesavius

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9/08/12 4:49:03 PM#76

The OP has kind of a point, though his delivery of it and the white noise of the other stuff around it are pretty crappy.

The queues for WvW are a problem. We can't deny that.

The reason that they are a problem though is because they are so damned fun and everyone wants in.

It does need sorting though. What with how ANet thought so clearly about so much of the game this oversight is suprising.

 

 

It should also be borne in mind as well.. some people are just born bored. They have a very low threshold for it. No game is ever gonna hold them long and they will always find fault with what they are doing in order to blame the game for their innate boredom. It's just the way some people are.

  IrishChai

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9/08/12 4:55:53 PM#77

 

The PVP queues definitely need work. I don't know about the rest of it because I've never succeeded in getting on to PVP. That's how bad the queue is, having played PVE for hours and never seeing PVP once outside of twitch and youtube. I love the PVE though!

  Grimmx

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OP  9/08/12 4:56:56 PM#78
Originally posted by Vesavius

The OP has kind of a point, though his delivery of it and the white noise of the other stuff around it are pretty crappy.

The queues for WvW are a problem. We can't deny that.

The reason that they are a problem though is because they are so damned fun and everyone wants in.

It does need sorting though. What with how ANet thought so clearly about so much of the game this oversight is suprising.

 

 

It should also be borne in mind as well.. some people are just born bored. They have a very low threshold for it. No game is ever gonna hold them long and they will always find fault with what they are doing in order to blame the game for their innate boredom. It's just the way some people are.

Or maybe some are bored of sitting in a que monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday and saturday.

Its just a wild guess.

 

  Wickedjelly

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9/08/12 4:57:44 PM#79
Originally posted by IrishChai

 

The PVP queues definitely need work. I don't know about the rest of it because I've never succeeded in getting on to PVP. That's how bad the queue is, having played PVE for hours and never seeing PVP once outside of twitch and youtube. I love the PVE though!

 This is really unfortunate. I hope they get this worked out for those on packed servers so they can enjoy it as well.

To think...all those honor badges Anet is making me miss out on :P

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Zinzan

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9/08/12 4:58:46 PM#80
Originally posted by Vesavius

The OP has kind of a point, though his delivery of it and the white noise of the other stuff around it are pretty crappy.

The queues for WvW are a problem. We can't deny that.

The reason that they are a problem though is because they are so damned fun and everyone wants in.

It does need sorting though. What with how ANet thought so clearly about so much of the game this oversight is suprising.

 

 

It should also be borne in mind as well.. some people are just born bored. They have a very low threshold for it. No game is ever gonna hold them long and they will always find fault with what they are doing in order to blame the game for their innate boredom. It's just the way some people are.

Something is off with that, no arguments there, but as soon as they announced WvWvW would be instanced I for one knew it would be a problem and so did many others who had suffered at the hands of similar systems.

We waited until after launch, considered if we really wanted to buy the game and then went in late on lower pop servers to avoid the queue's. I rarely have to queue for WvWvW and it's never more than 5 minutes, but i can sympathise with players on full pop servers who report 5-7 hour queue's.

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