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  Calerxes

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9/07/12 4:22:06 PM#41
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Creslin321

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Because it's less fun to post the truth on a forum, much better to lie or exaggerate instead.

 

So all the people that had serious problems were all lying even though Arenanet admitted to all the problems people brought up? And I didn't see these types of gamebreaking problems in Aion, Rift, CO, SW:TOR forums at launch what happened to the Teakbois that posts in the Rift forum?

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  Nikkita

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9/07/12 4:23:11 PM#42
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Mothanos

Hate hate hate and more hate, who cares ? within a year no1 will remember that the trading post was offline for 7 days.....or a part of a story line dint continue.

I am having such a great time in GW2, it exceeded all my expectation, this is the mmo for me and my wife for years and years to come.

let haters hate, who cares about basement dwelling kids with rage issues :)

You're saying this in a thread bringing up WOW's launch problems in 04 :D

 

There goes that Ironic Bird again.... Swoooooooshhh!

 So compare it to SWTOR, Aion, and Rift then.  Rift had a good launch for sure, better than GW2.  But SWTOR and Aion both had worse launches (IMO) than GW2 because of the login queues.

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Since when one single launch issue makes the entire launch bad? it is a sum of many factors that count. But if this is how you want to cherry pick issues i can also do the same and pick one issue in GW2 and make it look worse in comparison to SWTOR or AIon. Would that be the right thing to do?


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  MindTrigger

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9/07/12 4:30:44 PM#43
Originally posted by MrReality
GW2 ranks up ther as one of the worst launched games since WoW, get over yourself mr op.  It isn't the worst game but the launch was horrendous. Thats a fact.

Horrendous for who?  I've been playing since early release, and other than a few minor annoyances like too much overflow due to server popularity, I've basically played without a single hitch every day since.

I know some people have had various issues, but to call the entire launch horrendous is pure hyperbole.  If you want to say it was horrendous FOR YOU, then by all means, go for it.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  teakbois

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9/07/12 4:31:17 PM#44
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Creslin321

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Because it's less fun to post the truth on a forum, much better to lie or exaggerate instead.

 

So all the people that had serious problems were all lying even though Arenanet admitted to all the problems people brought up? And I didn't see these types of gamebreaking problems in Aion, Rift, CO, SW:TOR forums at launch what happened to the Teakbois that posts in the Rift forum?

There arent any gamebreaking problems though.  The game is playable.  Yeah, of course there are bugs in a game with over 1000 scripted events.  But none of them are remotely gamebreaking in any way.   The servers were down during pre launch one morning, but not since then.   I don't consider a 3 day wait time for hacked accounts a huge issue, I really don't, especially when it certainly doesnt appear to be Arenanet's fault accounts got hacked.

And you don't remember the SW:TOR launch well, remember the ability delay issue?  How many threads were there on that one issue alone?

Rift had a security flaw, and had to install coinlock early on its lifetime.

 

You said you are only observing, without playing its impossible to tell if anything gamebreaking is happening.

  teakbois

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9/07/12 4:36:11 PM#45
Originally posted by SuperXero89

Imagine a new cell phone launching in 2012 without a touchscreen, internet access, and a color LCD display.  

Point being, we don't judge modern products by the same standards with which similar products were judged in the past.  WoW got away with it due to there being far less competition on the market, and due to Blizzard attracting an army of devoted fanboys and fans of the Warcraft RTS.  GW2's launch likely won't define its future success.  After all, they've got the army of fanboys already.

Yet no MMO in history has alunched with even 1/100th of the amount of scripted events that are in GW2.  No other MMORPG has launched with a game wide auction house with likely 2 million users that can post buy lines for items.  GW2 isnt doing the same thing as WoW did so the comparison is valid enough.

 

The one exception is the account security features, which is an issue that is avoidable on the user's end anyway.

  GeezerGamer

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9/07/12 4:39:42 PM#46
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Creslin321

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Because it's less fun to post the truth on a forum, much better to lie or exaggerate instead.

 

So all the people that had serious problems were all lying even though Arenanet admitted to all the problems people brought up? And I didn't see these types of gamebreaking problems in Aion, Rift, CO, SW:TOR forums at launch what happened to the Teakbois that posts in the Rift forum?

This isn't the Rift forum.

Speaking of....I wonder how their expansion launch will go?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  User Deleted
9/07/12 4:42:12 PM#47

WHO THE F...K CARES ABOUT OLD GAMES ???

 

TELL ME WHO ?

 

YOU LIKE GW 2 ? GOOD FOR YOU.

YOU DON'T LIKE GW 2 ? BAD FOR YOU. MOVE ON.

 

wanna play panda fishing ? good for you.

wanna go and kill yourself by committing suicide in a rift ? good for you. DO IT!

 

xDDD

 

and for all those xfire pro epeener braindead raped BMKs:   xfire DOESN'T SAY SHIT ! (not for good and not for bad)

 

/99baloons

  Calerxes

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9/07/12 4:43:16 PM#48
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Creslin321

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Because it's less fun to post the truth on a forum, much better to lie or exaggerate instead.

 

So all the people that had serious problems were all lying even though Arenanet admitted to all the problems people brought up? And I didn't see these types of gamebreaking problems in Aion, Rift, CO, SW:TOR forums at launch what happened to the Teakbois that posts in the Rift forum?

There arent any gamebreaking problems though.  The game is playable.  Yeah, of course there are bugs in a game with over 1000 scripted events.  But none of them are remotely gamebreaking in any way.   The servers were down during pre launch one morning, but not since then.   I don't consider a 3 day wait time for hacked accounts a huge issue, I really don't, especially when it certainly doesnt appear to be Arenanet's fault accounts got hacked.

And you don't remember the SW:TOR launch well, remember the ability delay issue?  How many threads were there on that one issue alone?

Rift had a security flaw, and had to install coinlock early on its lifetime.

 

You said you are only observing, without playing its impossible to tell if anything gamebreaking is happening.

 

By gamebreaking I mean players that could not login in for the whole day on the 26th in the EU and in US for a few hours, the same problem arose on the 28th, many people couldn't register the product, email verifications was broken for many the first week, the trade post was down for 10 days thats gamebreaking for crafters, many could get there HOM rewards for the first few days and were pissed and there are more. It wouldn't be to far fetched to say you are doing the opposite to many and downplaying these facts from the first week of launch that makes GW2 launch the worst launch since AOC. And the fact we are stil seeing threads like this one over two weeks since headstart tells us a lot about how "smooth" it went.

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  User Deleted
9/07/12 4:45:52 PM#49
Originally posted by Calerxes

By gamebreaking I mean players that could not login in for the whole day on the 26th in the EU and in US for a few hours, the same problem arose on the 28th, many people couldn't register the product, email verifications was broken for many the first week, the trade post was down for 10 days thats gamebreaking for crafters, many could get there HOM rewards for the first few days and were pissed and there are more. It wouldn't be to far fetched to say you are doing the opposite to many and downplaying these facts from the first week of launch that makes GW2 launch the worst launch since AOC. And the fact we are stil seeing threads like this one over two weeks since headstart tells us a lot about how "smooth" it went.

I guess now for sure you'll ask for a gaming time refund, won't you ?   LOL

 

btw, are you sure you were present at Age of Conan launch ? 

  Calerxes

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9/07/12 4:46:39 PM#50
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by Creslin321

So even with contempary comparisons...I don't see how GW2's launch is as terrible as a lot of folks here are making it out to be.

Because it's less fun to post the truth on a forum, much better to lie or exaggerate instead.

 

So all the people that had serious problems were all lying even though Arenanet admitted to all the problems people brought up? And I didn't see these types of gamebreaking problems in Aion, Rift, CO, SW:TOR forums at launch what happened to the Teakbois that posts in the Rift forum?

This isn't the Rift forum.

Speaking of....I wonder how their expansion launch will go?

 

But its still a Teakbois post.

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  Calerxes

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9/07/12 4:48:44 PM#51
Originally posted by sugar4free
Originally posted by Calerxes

By gamebreaking I mean players that could not login in for the whole day on the 26th in the EU and in US for a few hours, the same problem arose on the 28th, many people couldn't register the product, email verifications was broken for many the first week, the trade post was down for 10 days thats gamebreaking for crafters, many could get there HOM rewards for the first few days and were pissed and there are more. It wouldn't be to far fetched to say you are doing the opposite to many and downplaying these facts from the first week of launch that makes GW2 launch the worst launch since AOC. And the fact we are stil seeing threads like this one over two weeks since headstart tells us a lot about how "smooth" it went.

I guess now for sure you'll ask for a gaming time refund, won't you ?   LOL

 

btw, are you sure you were present at Age of Conan launch ? 

 

No in those days I was partying and having lots of sex no time for MMORPG's... AH!! the memories.

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  eGumball

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9/07/12 4:49:21 PM#52
Originally posted by fahadjafar
the thing is WOW is a 7 year old game. and gw2 is a brand new one. but despite being a new generation game, having all kind of new technology available these days in their disposal, anet is facing the same problem WoW showed 7 years ago when they 1st released. so to many people it is fail. although i am not one of them. i always say "patience is a great virtue". 60$ for a game, 8$ per hour part time job salary, 60/8= 7.5 hrs. so after purchasing the game if you have played at elast 8 hours you got your money back, no point crying and whinning.

 

So why did Dibalo 3 had launch issues then ?! Your arguments are totally wrong, since Blizzard actually is the company behind WoW and Diablo 3, which means that Blizzard is probably the company that should have learned from their old mistakes. However, why did they ahd issues with their new game ?!

Money ?! .. well, Blizzard is the biggest gaming company in the world right now, so I don´t think that this is the right answer.

Get over it buddy, don´t cry and accept that Guild Wars 2 is actually the new best title in the market. The most people are having a blast, and the minority who are still sitting in the corner, crying for their empty game .. can be considered as the ones with the wrong opinion .. because who cares of what you think. Do you really think that your voice will be heard ?! 

You are a minority of haters, that will always get facepalmed!

  User Deleted
9/07/12 4:57:21 PM#53
Originally posted by eGumball
Originally posted by fahadjafar
the thing is WOW is a 7 year old game. and gw2 is a brand new one. but despite being a new generation game, having all kind of new technology available these days in their disposal, anet is facing the same problem WoW showed 7 years ago when they 1st released. so to many people it is fail. although i am not one of them. i always say "patience is a great virtue". 60$ for a game, 8$ per hour part time job salary, 60/8= 7.5 hrs. so after purchasing the game if you have played at elast 8 hours you got your money back, no point crying and whinning.

 

So why did Dibalo 3 had launch issues then ?! Your arguments are totally wrong, since Blizzard actually is the company behind WoW and Diablo 3, which means that Blizzard is probably the company that should have learned from their old mistakes. However, why did they ahd issues with their new game ?!

Money ?! .. well, Blizzard is the biggest gaming company in the world right now, so I don´t think that this is the right answer.

assuming diablo 3 = mmorpg  ====> braindead

(then there are ppl who even critized diablo 3not having an "ENDGAME".... ===> hack n' slash with endgame, eh ?

I mean f...k, what weed do you peeps smoke, eh ?  facepalm)

 

  eGumball

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9/07/12 5:07:31 PM#54
Originally posted by sugar4free
Originally posted by eGumball
Originally posted by fahadjafar
the thing is WOW is a 7 year old game. and gw2 is a brand new one. but despite being a new generation game, having all kind of new technology available these days in their disposal, anet is facing the same problem WoW showed 7 years ago when they 1st released. so to many people it is fail. although i am not one of them. i always say "patience is a great virtue". 60$ for a game, 8$ per hour part time job salary, 60/8= 7.5 hrs. so after purchasing the game if you have played at elast 8 hours you got your money back, no point crying and whinning.

 

So why did Dibalo 3 had launch issues then ?! Your arguments are totally wrong, since Blizzard actually is the company behind WoW and Diablo 3, which means that Blizzard is probably the company that should have learned from their old mistakes. However, why did they ahd issues with their new game ?!

Money ?! .. well, Blizzard is the biggest gaming company in the world right now, so I don´t think that this is the right answer.

assuming diablo 3 = mmorpg  ====> braindead

(then there are ppl who even critized diablo 3not having an "ENDGAME".... ===> hack n' slash with endgame, eh ?

I mean f...k, what weed do you peeps smoke, eh ?  facepalm)

 

 

Really interesteing, how you got these words as a comment to my post. Though i never even mentioned the word mmorpg in the whole comment. Otherwise, try to read more about the gaming industry, before commenting ;)

  TheHavok

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9/07/12 5:10:42 PM#55

I'm kind of surprised faded made this thread.  Weren't the problems with GW2's launch ironed out after the first 24 hours?

Are people still complaining about GW2 having a bad launch?  I have yet to see it.

Also: I have to nitpick one thing: When WoW launched, they weren't anticipating more then 250k user, setting their expecations in line with the current user base of MMOs at that time.  The huge, ridiculous amount of growth that occurred after launch was not prepared for.

  Requiem1066

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9/07/12 5:11:28 PM#56
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Here's a new idea.

Let's judge Arena Net and GW2 on the merits on Arena Net and GW2 instead of Blizzard and WoW.  

That would be to sensible 

  User Deleted
9/07/12 5:17:39 PM#57

As someone who is a ffa sandbox nut I am actually enjoying my time in the game but Jesus some people will let anything slide. The launch and the issues it has recently had/still has are pretty fking piss poor for a AAA launch as far as I am concerned.

 

WoW may have had a shocking launch, how exactly does that give new games a free pass to also have issues up the wazzinga when they launch? You would have though that perhaps some lessons may have been learned in the industry from every other botched job, seems not to be the case.

  User Deleted
9/07/12 5:20:22 PM#58
Originally posted by eGumball
Originally posted by sugar4free
Originally posted by eGumball
Originally posted by fahadjafar
the thing is WOW is a 7 year old game. and gw2 is a brand new one. but despite being a new generation game, having all kind of new technology available these days in their disposal, anet is facing the same problem WoW showed 7 years ago when they 1st released. so to many people it is fail. although i am not one of them. i always say "patience is a great virtue". 60$ for a game, 8$ per hour part time job salary, 60/8= 7.5 hrs. so after purchasing the game if you have played at elast 8 hours you got your money back, no point crying and whinning.

 

So why did Dibalo 3 had launch issues then ?! Your arguments are totally wrong, since Blizzard actually is the company behind WoW and Diablo 3, which means that Blizzard is probably the company that should have learned from their old mistakes. However, why did they ahd issues with their new game ?!

Money ?! .. well, Blizzard is the biggest gaming company in the world right now, so I don´t think that this is the right answer.

assuming diablo 3 = mmorpg  ====> braindead

(then there are ppl who even critized diablo 3not having an "ENDGAME".... ===> hack n' slash with endgame, eh ?

I mean f...k, what weed do you peeps smoke, eh ?  facepalm)

 

 

Really interesteing, how you got these words as a comment to my post. Though i never even mentioned the word mmorpg in the whole comment. Otherwise, try to read more about the gaming industry, before commenting ;)

 

your diablo 3 comparison is inadequate, mabye just stick to compare 2 mmorpgs instead ( yes yes I know, you are the only person in the universe aware of the fact that diablo 3 had launch issues... *sigh* )

 

  User Deleted
9/07/12 5:37:41 PM#59

you need to compare 2 games of the same caliber, but that's just impossible due to the nature of diversity of today's mmo products.

it's silly to compare launches when we had 56K connections and 250K users with launches involving ADSL 10 M+ and more than 1 million users.

there is no logic in that

it would be more acceptable to compare GW2 (in this case) to GW1 and see what have changed, in bad and for good

 

 

for all the rest, I can only redirect you to a more epic and equal confrontation:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiyRaxu5QNQ

 

just play the games you like, all the rest is for mental epeen which imho is bullshit anyways

(aka: there is no best game)

 

  Thornz2000

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9/07/12 7:29:48 PM#60

WoW was about 2mo till they started getting better.

Anarchy Online launch was the worst I ever seen. About 4mo after launch they started to get a little hold on it.

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