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General Discussion  » Why are you not playing Vanguard?

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  User Deleted
9/07/12 10:05:23 AM#41
Because it's by SOE. You know it's gotten to a pretty pass when I will play a game by Aventurine and not one by SOE.
  Rrib

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9/07/12 10:18:19 AM#42
Bunch of kids got their hands on a hacked game engine, built a game on top of it and sold it to SOE. They can never fix the 'issues' because they have no access to fix the undertaying hacked game engine and no updates/fixes from the game engine writer because its hacked and SOE is too cheep to cough up the rolayties to make it right ... probaby not true but that's my best guess.
  sirphobos

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9/07/12 10:20:43 AM#43

Unsupported, buggy game with a miniscule population that still runs poorly to this day.

That's enough of a reason for me.

  Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

9/07/12 10:22:21 AM#44
Originally posted by tuppe99

Installed the game last night and it actually does not look bad at all.

 

The graphics is not worse that WoW for instance and looking at the Unofficial trailer on youtube that someone on these forums posted the link to, the game looks to be much more like what a lot of people on these forums want.

 

So, why are you not playing it?

 

Sometimes I think no game will ever satisfy us MMOers on these forums. Or we all play WoW secretly ;)

I went back for awhile, but the lag and many of the same old "issues" are just too much.  I played for awhile at launch (shudder), and while the game has improved a LOT since that horrible experience, its still not what I'm looking for. Perhaps I'll try again, when/if they ever get things smoothed out more. 

  Tibernicus

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9/07/12 10:23:39 AM#45
Originally posted by sirphobos

Unsupported, buggy game with a miniscule population that still runs poorly to this day.

That's enough of a reason for me.

The game has a full dev team again, its getting weekly patches, it hasn't been buggy for years, and it ran well on my 8 year old machine that could barely run Oblivion.

  Tibernicus

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9/07/12 10:27:29 AM#46

Going through a lot of these comments it seems like most people never even played Vanguard, they just assume they know what it's like.

 

I still play it because it has the best game world and dungeon design in any MMO to date. There are thousands of things to find, and more content than you could ever complete. NPCs actually feel like characters and all of them have things to say, they're not just quest sacks. You can literally go anywhere. There are no instances. And there's an actual penalty for failure ,something all games need.

  SnarlingWolf

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9/07/12 10:34:59 AM#47
Originally posted by tuppe99

Installed the game last night and it actually does not look bad at all.

 

The graphics is not worse that WoW for instance and looking at the Unofficial trailer on youtube that someone on these forums posted the link to, the game looks to be much more like what a lot of people on these forums want.

 

So, why are you not playing it?

 

Sometimes I think no game will ever satisfy us MMOers on these forums. Or we all play WoW secretly ;)

 Hey don't copy my Asheron's Call forum post and title, rude.... Ok it isn't rude, but you could at least say inspiried by.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/364075/Why-dont-you-play-Asherons-Call.html

 

I will never touch Vanguard again ever in my life. I bought it at release and the release was the worst release of any MMO. Truly and utterly horrible with so many mistakes it was disgusting. On top of that the gameplay wasn't anything new or different.

Anytime someone mentions Vanguard I say that if they sent me a refund for the purchase price of the game with an apology and gave me 2 months free I MIGHT at least try it again. Since that will never happen, I will never go anywhere near it.

  teakbois

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9/07/12 10:35:14 AM#48
Originally posted by iamjason1989

I dislike the way SOE handle their F2P system.

Either give us Aion style F2P or NOT.

It amazes me that people still don't understand this:

 

Aion f2p is as it is because the game is finanically supported by its large Korean population (where it is NOT f2p), so they can afford to give the game away for free.  Aion is still a p2p game for 99% of its playerbase.

 

 

  Rrib

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9/07/12 10:41:08 AM#49
Originally posted by Tibernicus
Originally posted by sirphobos

Unsupported, buggy game with a miniscule population that still runs poorly to this day.

That's enough of a reason for me.

The game has a full dev team again, its getting weekly patches, it hasn't been buggy for years, and it ran well on my 8 year old machine that could barely run Oblivion.

lol - all they did so far was install new splash screens during load-up! It is IMPOSSIBLE to play for more than an hour without encountering some bug, from npc vendors that list prices in the trillions of copper to grouping with 1/2 the group not sholwing in the group list to being booted to the character screen whenever more than 30 people enter a 'chunk' ... etc

  InFlamestwo

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9/07/12 10:45:27 AM#50

I'm playing Guild Wars 2.

Vanguard was good 3 years ago, but it wasn't really that good to start with.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/07/12 10:49:52 AM#51
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Because it's by SOE. You know it's gotten to a pretty pass when I will play a game by Aventurine and not one by SOE.

The only reason I would play it is because they have the All Access, and you can play loads of games under one subscription, and since last years security breach, their security is the best there is (that is on the assumption that they are aware that if they have another security breach that no one would touch Sony ever again) Plus the fact that they do not shut games down so easily, and SWG only got shut down because LA were more in control.

However, I am being turned off now by the fact of them shoving us off to ProSieben, that actually makes SOE look like the best company ever.

Vanguard was not originally going to be transferred but then is.

DCUO has been transitioned, and EQ2 and the rest are now on hold, because even after over 8 months, this deal is still a shambles.

Pity they did not use Codemasters, the ones who handled LOTRO in the EU, as then I would have transferred without fuss, and would be emailing them to hurry up with the transfer, instaed of abort.

While the deal is going ahead, and Prosieben are worse than SOE, I see no point in bothering with Vanguard right now, as will no longer play once the transfer happens.

  Roin

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9/07/12 10:52:48 AM#52
Personally I find the game boring.  When it went F2P I gave it try.  By level 6 I was bored, logged off, and haven't logged back in since.  Game just doesnt do anything for me.  The sky and weather are very nice.  Everything else to me is just bland.  From the character models to animations.  I found the combat to be sleep inducing at best.  I thought about exploring for a bit, but then when I look around, the landscape itself just seems so "meh" at best.  Personally I don't think FFXIV is a good game as it is currently, but IMHO it's still alot better then Vanguard is. At least in the area's that interest me. (Combat, Animations, Character Models, Landscape/Terrain)

In War - Victory.
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  darkhalf357x

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I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

9/07/12 11:07:13 AM#53
Originally posted by tuppe99

Installed the game last night and it actually does not look bad at all.

 

The graphics is not worse that WoW for instance and looking at the Unofficial trailer on youtube that someone on these forums posted the link to, the game looks to be much more like what a lot of people on these forums want.

 

So, why are you not playing it?

 

Sometimes I think no game will ever satisfy us MMOers on these forums. Or we all play WoW secretly ;)

I actually like Vanguard. I did play it when I had my SOEPass but now play casually via F2P in between GW2 runs.  Vanguard gives me a decent taste of what Ive been looking for in an MMO.  An open world that takes time to learn and grow in.  Like another poster said the text while written is well written and gives the NPC character.

I never minded the tab target / hot key / stand there combat.  There is strategy to be had and a reminiscing sense of fun going back to the old turn-based RPGs of old.  Where stats and build define your success.  Where crafting is a pseudo mini game where you have to manage your table and resources. It brings a level of immersion almost forgotten today.  In small doses it has been enjoyable for me.

Is it perfect? Far from.  The lag is definitely persistent. My audio double loops frequently. And the community while present, really isnt.  Grouping is difficult meaning there is content you are forced to skip.  The map is not intuitive and barely gives you a sense of barring. The landscape is sparse and barren and could use some love to bring it back alive.  But we all know that is not going to happen.

Yet none of those things outweigh the positives of my experience.

Looking forward to ArcheAge (if ever released state side) and EverQuestNext.

 

  Tibernicus

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9/07/12 12:09:35 PM#54
Originally posted by Roin
Personally I find the game boring.  When it went F2P I gave it try.  By level 6 I was bored, logged off, and haven't logged back in since.  Game just doesnt do anything for me.  The sky and weather are very nice.  Everything else to me is just bland.  From the character models to animations.  I found the combat to be sleep inducing at best.  I thought about exploring for a bit, but then when I look around, the landscape itself just seems so "meh" at best.  Personally I don't think FFXIV is a good game as it is currently, but IMHO it's still alot better then Vanguard is. At least in the area's that interest me. (Combat, Animations, Character Models, Landscape/Terrain)

Seems you never got to "the good stuff". Nor did you try the other two spheres of play. Not that that is unexpected, just a shame that you never tried the crafting, which is one of the best systems in the genre, nor the diplomacy. Nor did you do any of the big dungeons or get into the complexities of combat (which begin at level 10).

But I can understand why most wouldn't want to give a game more than a few hours if it doesn't hook them. Just saying that you never gave it a fair shake. Judging a game world as large as Vanguard's based on one starting area? There are over 30 starting areas, and each continent is larger than most MMO game worlds.

  Tibernicus

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9/07/12 12:11:48 PM#55
Originally posted by Rrib
Originally posted by Tibernicus
Originally posted by sirphobos

Unsupported, buggy game with a miniscule population that still runs poorly to this day.

That's enough of a reason for me.

The game has a full dev team again, its getting weekly patches, it hasn't been buggy for years, and it ran well on my 8 year old machine that could barely run Oblivion.

lol - all they did so far was install new splash screens during load-up! It is IMPOSSIBLE to play for more than an hour without encountering some bug, from npc vendors that list prices in the trillions of copper to grouping with 1/2 the group not sholwing in the group list to being booted to the character screen whenever more than 30 people enter a 'chunk' ... etc

Hm, funny, because there are pages upon pages of patch notes saying otherwise... and I guess I've done the impossible by not finding a bug. Keep on trollin though.

  Tibernicus

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9/07/12 12:12:19 PM#56
Originally posted by InFlamestwo

I'm playing Guild Wars 2.

Vanguard was good 3 years ago, but it wasn't really that good to start with.

Better than any other themepark of the last 8 years by a mile, until GW2.

  VengeSunsoar

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9/07/12 12:18:49 PM#57

I've played it several times over the years, most recently about a week ago.  Everything in the game is just meh.

Combat is ok, but slow, so to me it doesn't feel exciting at all.

Classes are decent, I like the bard. 

Graphics over all are ok, environment is great, characters are ugly.

Animations are ok.

Housing is ok, yes you can build it and it's in the world which is good, but you are so limited in your selections.  Heck even EQ2 with it's brick and board housing is now better IMO.

Diplomacy is just boring to me.

And lag lag lag, every few minutes getting 9999 ping.  And bugs, as someone else stated venders listing things for millions, minute long loads crossing chunks, sometimes your mount doesn't show up, swimming and hitting the bank and going through the bank, parts of the land not showing up so you fall through the world.

And this was last week.

The game has many things I like, decent classes (I would prefer no classes), housing, and flight.  But it seems as if they just reached a point of good enough on each one, instead of great.

I'll stick with my games, VG is just... ok.  It doesn't stand out in anyway IMO.

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Zeymere

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9/07/12 12:21:07 PM#58

I was super stoked about this when it first came out.  But after playing it for a few weeks It was to much, and of course it was, like EQ/EQ2.

Rather play EQ2.

 

 

 

  Jaedor

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9/07/12 12:22:21 PM#59

Why are you not playing Vanguard?

Because the F2P model they used removes the things I'm most interested in.

  xDayx

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9/07/12 12:54:19 PM#60

I am playing VG. Theres just alot to keep you occupied... There are probably alot of aspects that go unnoticed by someone who tries the game for only a month.

If you havent really put forth an effort to research your class quests or crafting style or tiered quests you should.

EQ2's combat is a little odd for me personally (cast times, mob movement speed etc) 

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