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  Jockan

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Looking forward to Black Desert, Kingdom Under Fire II and Skyforge.

9/03/12 11:17:58 PM#21
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

  kol56

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9/03/12 11:22:00 PM#22

I don't like it.

For the same reason i didn't like Oblivion's level scaling.

It removes the RPG of the game, then it becomes a pointless button mashing action game with no real progression.

If i wanted to do low level content... i would make a new alt and experience a different class.

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  KhinRunite

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9/03/12 11:23:20 PM#23
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

  Stx11

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9/03/12 11:23:42 PM#24
Originally posted by Maelzrael
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The quote under your avatar is really ironic considering this post.

I'm a huge fan of the game but I find what you said honestly repulsive in addition to unnecessarily insulting to the OP, especially if you read the thread.

  kaiser3282

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9/03/12 11:28:11 PM#25
Originally posted by kol56

I don't like it.

For the same reason i didn't like Oblivion's level scaling.

It removes the RPG of the game, then it becomes a pointless button mashing action game with no real progression.

If i wanted to do low level content... i would make a new alt and experience a different class.

There is still progression, and I really dont get what is so extremely hard for people to grasp about the downleveling. You are STILL stronger, even with the downleveling.

You have trait points spent that you didnt have at low level, giving you stat boosts, bonuses to skills, and special effects. Increased weapon damages, higher crit, faster cooldowns / faster Initiative regen, etc.

You have more skills / slot sunlocked, including elites if youre over 30.

You have better upgrades in your upgrade slots than at lower level, usually with multiple stats on them instead of just 1 stat.

You can use consumables (food, etc) that give you better buffs than at lower levels.

Does that sound like theres no progression and no advantage to being higher level? Its funny though. For all the people I see saying the game is so easy, I see nearly as many people crying they cant handle lower level content when downscaled.

  Eir_S

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9/03/12 11:30:58 PM#26
It's one of the best features of the game.  If you can't handle not being able to one shot everything, play something else.  I think the concept is great, it keeps everything relevant.
  Weretigar

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If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV.

9/03/12 11:31:04 PM#27
For Griefing purposes this is one of my fav things about gw2, However no lvl 5 drake can kill me unless im lvl 1 underwater with no weapons skills. Or i'm afk and some gm wants to have fun and spawns one on me.
  Dreamo84

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9/03/12 11:32:59 PM#28
Originally posted by swtorfan

It just makes me frustrated that i am unable to get past several of the class quests.

 

Thanks for your opinion.

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  Jockan

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Looking forward to Black Desert, Kingdom Under Fire II and Skyforge.

9/03/12 11:33:44 PM#29
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

  Weretigar

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If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV.

9/03/12 11:39:17 PM#30
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

I actually had a huge problem with this in WoW, Aion, and RO. People farming nodes and named mobs for thier rare items and resources. Saying that they don't because you didn't doesn't quite make it true. However I'm glad you didn't. Lets hope reborn still has that feature for you thou when it comes out.

  JRRNeiklot

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9/03/12 11:42:51 PM#31
I hate it.  It will porobably drive me to quit playing.
  KhinRunite

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9/03/12 11:42:54 PM#32
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

By my experience, people who backtrack lower level areas don't generally just go there for the kicks or to annoy lowbies.

1.) They're farming for mats, trying to level crafting, which they incidentally left out until level cap.

2.) They're boosting a friend or guildie. Not neccessarily solved by asking to join them, because then you'll be sucked into the same pace as them (which is relatively faster than a real lowbie would have taken). In the end it still ruins lowbie experience.

3.) To gank lowbies (not applicable to GW2)

  Spartan212

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9/03/12 11:44:40 PM#33
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

Yes, but if they didn't downlevel then higher leveled players would be farming karma on low-level DEs.  The lowbies in the area wouldn't even get a shot off.  

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
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Looking forward to Black Desert, Kingdom Under Fire II and Skyforge.

9/03/12 11:48:20 PM#34
Originally posted by Weretigar
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

I actually had a huge problem with this in WoW, Aion, and RO. People farming nodes and named mobs for thier rare items and resources. Saying that they don't because you didn't doesn't quite make it true. However I'm glad you didn't. Lets hope reborn still has that feature for you thou when it comes out.

 

Never really played any those games so I cant really say much about them but gathering crafting mats should be done by anybody. It gives people reason to go back to places that they have been which adds to the exploration factor. As for farming named mobs if a game rewards high level players for killing low level mobs then its just bad game design.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
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Looking forward to Black Desert, Kingdom Under Fire II and Skyforge.

9/03/12 11:50:10 PM#35
Originally posted by Spartan212
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Mannish
They should have done what FFXIV Reborn is doing and thats giving you the option to down level when you want to down level. Good idea but like many others poorly executed.

Not sure I agree. A person who chose not to downlevel can still trivialize content for lowbies who are not inherently playing cooperatively with him. Unless FFXIV has a system in place to prevent this, it's still a poor execution.

 

In any mmo high levels can go to the low level area if they choose and trivialize content for lower levels but they dont do it. They dont because they gain nonthing from doing it. Having the choice is just better. Everquest 2's system is similar.

Yes, but if they didn't downlevel then higher leveled players would be farming karma on low-level DEs.  The lowbies in the area wouldn't even get a shot off.  

 

If they choose not to down level then they gain nonthing from it. Like I said, Everquest 2 has a similar system.

  Reizla

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9/04/12 12:05:07 AM#36
Originally posted by Aerowyn
one of the games best features IMHO.. keeps all content relevant and any future content releveant.. say in 6 months they add a new level 30 dungeon well guess what my level 80 can go their and still have a challenge.. for me it's one of the best things about this game... oh also helping out my friends of lower level and not facerolling everything is nice as well..:)

Indeed, the whole level-scaling thing is one of the best features. OP is complaining about down-scaling, but I don't hear him complaining about up-scaling for Wv3. 1st time I went to Wv3 I was wondering how I could survive as a mere level 20. Up-scaling was the answer. For down-scaling it's the reason you already gave. I don't have to roll an alt to enjoy the challenge an (unexplored) area gives. Now I can just go there on my main...

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  EmanioAmor

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9/04/12 12:06:08 AM#37

At first i hated the down leveling but found it to be really awesome for a challenge. I remember considering myself OP after i found some good drops sporting a elite wep thinkin i'd go run bandit cave in the lowly areas, got ganged so bad and owned.I turned the game off  and stared at my desktop,i dont remember much after that.=(.

Came back the next day with a decent group  and really enjoyed myself, i'm not sure why i enjoy running some quests over and over with different people.I consider myself a real loner in these MMOs but i find myself talking to people more simply because the crowd is also nicer. I'll actually try to save downed players instead of walking over their corpse to save myself. I'll fight for them simply cus they'd do the same for me. 

  KhinRunite

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9/04/12 12:07:09 AM#38

Man, was I intentionally skipped by Mannish? :D

I don't recall playing a MMO where mobs don't drop crafting materials. That includes the current FFXIV. Not sure about 2.0 though.

Also, is there no player boosting going on in any MMO you've played? Have you never experienced this before?

  st4t1ck

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9/04/12 12:14:46 AM#39
I got to 80 pretty fast,  when i got there i only had 38% map completion, without downleveling i would miss 62% of the game on my main charicter.  i love that i dont have to make an alt or start from scatch to see everything.  and i am much more powerful in a 30 zone now then i was when i was 30
  Opapanax

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9/04/12 1:20:00 AM#40

I'm enjoying the downleveing myself. I have a friend that just joined in a day or so ago and I was at least 20 levels above him. I went back to the Human starting zone and was able to have a different run at things. My character is Norn so I get to be the odd ball giant amongst the zergs most times.

With this I was able to play and slow down my leveling just a bit (I don't really mind cause I'm playing with a friend) and at the same time he's able to level with no problem and is slowly closing the gap between us.. Mind you that I'm still progressing myself at the same time. I'm able to get decent XP from DE's even the lowlevel ones.

Also with me coming into contact with more of the lower level mats. I can also craft to keep up my level progression and keep myself somewhat relevant with gear as far as stuff I might be running into if I was in a zone at my actual level.

But it seems to be working as they intended for the most part.

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