i just DON'T understand why i am not suppose to expect much from an mmo developer these days?  is quality REALLY un-obtainable?

the poll looks to be about fifty - fifty (within a couple of percent)... is that proof that GW2 was not ready?

it is sad the developer was not more ready.  it is sad that the developer is defended for not being more ready.

it is sad that the people on this site LOVE mmo's and the mmo's do NOT love us back.

have a GREAT day!

SZ

Originally posted by Cavod

Apparenlty I'm playing a completely different "Guild Wars 2" than everyone else because short of the trading post, I'm having virtually no problems.  On the rare occassion I am having problems, it's something along the lines of a lag spike during peak hours or a queue into wvw.(omg how dare they put me into a queue!!!  *cough*aion, swtor etc*cough*)

So um... which MMO have you guys been playing and which prior MMO launches have you been a part of that were so head over heels above this one?  It sure isn't the world's best mmo launch but it's far above average.

*scratches head*

 

Is it really far above average? The launch that is, not the game itself. Other launches to compare to are the ones from SWTOR, TSW, Rift, FF XIV, Aion, Warhammer, STO, AoC, etc.   Asking because I am not sure myself. 

Of course it was ready.  Anyone saying it isn't comes off as somebody not very familiar with mmo's.

Active gameplay has run perfectly for me from the start with not one case of lag yet.  I can't say I've run into any bugs either in this area either.  I can't say that about ANY of the mmo's I've played in the last several years. 

The things that haven't been quite 'right' were working just fine until the servers got hit with giant masses of people.  It's been just a week and there are improvements noticed.

Originally posted by Clob

Of course it was ready.  Anyone saying it isn't comes off as somebody not very familiar with mmo's.

Active gameplay has run perfectly for me from the start with not one case of lag yet.  I can't say I've run into any bugs either in this area either.  I can't say that about ANY of the mmo's I've played in the last several years. 

The things that haven't been quite 'right' were working just fine until the servers got hit with giant masses of people.  It's been just a week and there are improvements noticed.

I don't know about you, but if it is winter outside and I ate my breakfast, took a shower, brushed my teeth and put some clothes for indoors use, I would still not be ready for a 15 min walk outside  unless I get some adequate outdoor cloths as well, no matter how good that breakfast tasted, how well I showered, etc.

It is absolutely impossible to release nowdays a bug-free mmorpg, BUT what Arenanet meant by saying ready or not ready, was not about beeing bug-free, but content rich. All mmorpgs that released the recent 6-7 years, were lacking content, people didnt leave swtor cause of it's bugs, they left because of the lack of major content, and because of many things were just missing. Nobody really stopped ( well maybe some did ) because of the problems that occured in Illum, but they left because they had NOTHING to do, once they hitted 80. And many many many many options were not even in game.

Originally posted by Foomerang

Anet repeatedly said they would release GW2 "When its ready"

What do you think?

Of course it was ready. I mean you don't ask the Messiah if he is ready do you? He might turn you into a toad or whatever it is those religeous types do...

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Originally posted by Ender4
I have known for a while that the current player base of games had no basis in reality but this poll just solidifies it for me. You can complain aboout a bunch of facets of this game and they are very valid complaints, I won't diminish that for anyone. But if you honestly think this game is not ready compared to the rest of the games released in the past 20 years you are living in a dream world with no basis in reality. This is so much more polished than most MMOs that it is a breath of fresh air in the genre. They have a ton of work to do but it is so much less work than the majority of these MMOs that it is a pretty silly thing to complain about.

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Yes, it had the usual bugs that every MMO has at start up, but it was not ready as advertised due to missing features. A-Net made a huge point about "not releasing until ready", which they failed to do. They failed part of their own manifesto.

Originally posted by wutae

It is absolutely impossible to release nowdays a bug-free mmorpg, BUT what Arenanet meant by saying ready or not ready, was not about beeing bug-free, but content rich. All mmorpgs that released the recent 6-7 years, were lacking content, people didnt leave swtor cause of it's bugs, they left because of the lack of major content, and because of many things were just missing. Nobody really stopped ( well maybe some did ) because of the problems that occured in Illum, but they left because they had NOTHING to do, once they hitted 80. And many many many many options were not even in game.

 

If you can find an official statement from Arenanet stating that is precisely and only the extent for which they intended to use the phrase "when it is ready", I would be happy if you could provide it. I was under the impression that it was far more general than that, and having too little customer support  = not ready for a big launch, in my opinion.

Sitting at 80 atm.  Only major issues I saw were getting stuck in personal stories with friends on the first night of headstart.  The Trading Post being down.  Some minor graphical glitches.  Character model got stuck a few times but was freed up with use of a skill.  Had one personal story bug out at lvl 72, but I reset it and it was fine.  Some DE's were bugged and not functioning properly. 

As far as CS complaints I've had none of those issues.  I submitted a CS ticket about a password reset issue and it was answered, I responded, and they responded back again within a few hours.

However none of this impeded my progress through the game or caused much if any frustration at all.  While not perfect a pretty damn good launch.  Most fun I've ever had at launch, but I think this was largely due to GW1 nostalgia and reconnecting with old friends.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but people who are saying "if you think it wasn't ready you are X" are not being fair.

You can not prove it was ready, that is subjective, the only way we get a good idea of whether it was ready or not, is based on whether it retains lots of players and gives them a fulfilling experience. 

GW2 is the first game to start hemmorhaging players this shortly after launch... not a good sign...

It wasn't ready, there is still work to be done, bugs to be fixed, but it was ready enough.

The higher level areas are less polished than the areas that were showcased in the BWE's.

Nope

Market down most of the time.

Still working on daily fixes in WvW. Mind you it is a good thing but this should have been mostly resolved in beta.

Originally posted by Foomerang

Anet repeatedly said they would release GW2 "When its ready"

What do you think?

All you established was that there are 50% fanboys and 50% haters.

Did you really think this people would answer honestly and this poll would be accurate?

Originally posted by grimgryphon

Originally posted by Foomerang

Anet repeatedly said they would release GW2 "When its ready"

What do you think?

All you established was that there are 50% fanboys and 50% haters.

Did you really think this people would answer honestly and this poll would be accurate?

Are the polls ever answered accurately on this website, not. the meer fact that the haters have any say even tho 99% of the haters aren't playing the game is bias enough.