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News & Features Discussion  » [Preview] Neverwinter: PAX 2012 Best in Show - Here's Why

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9/03/12 5:11:16 PM#41
Based on gameplay footage I'm assuming it's not a skill based game like Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2 is. That alone disheartens me, I really hope I won't have to pass on yet another Dungeons and Dragons online game.

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9/03/12 5:12:24 PM#42

I liked this idea..... when Valve did the same thing LONG AGO..




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9/03/12 5:16:40 PM#43
Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

I REALLY hope the Neverwinter Nights modding community gets on board. I have never seen so many awesome mods created by such an astonishing variety of builders. It would just be.....almost too much to handle. :D

 Cant speak for the NWN modders but I can say a small group of Oblivion/Skyrim modders will be playing ;-) Just remember though, it will NOT be like modding those games...we wont have the tools to be making new spells, animations or creating armor from our own meshes...we will be limited to the items/props they give us. So just expect decent content based on what they give us.


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9/03/12 5:16:55 PM#44
I will keep an eye on this one. Looks promising.

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4


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9/03/12 5:17:03 PM#45


If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.


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9/03/12 5:18:34 PM#46
Originally posted by SwampRob
Originally posted by JimmyYO
This game has the potential to be the best mmoRPG ever made, emphasis on the RPG. It's biggest failing is 4th edition, which was complete trash. Normally this would automatically disqualify any D&D game from being great but the videos show exceptional work being done, not to mention the game looks extremely fun to play.

I agree with your first statment, anyway.

I've played pnp D&D since the mid-70s and I think 4e is the best version ever, way better than the utterly unbalanced 3.x

To each his own.



Yeah, as an old D&D player, I have to agree.  Though 4th Ed went a little to far in the return to a miniatures/MMO style, it was at least coherent and organized, unlike the murky, haphazard design of the previous D&D editions.

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.


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9/03/12 5:21:34 PM#47

While I understand the desire, both financially and artistically, to control the additions to the game via their foundry, I am not that fond of giving Cryptic that power.  


It will keep out some crap, it will also keep out anything that might be too edgy for them.

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

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9/03/12 5:25:36 PM#48
Apparently no one here has played STO. that will show you just what the foundry is really about, it's not about innovation, it's about creating a game with very little content and then allowing the community to do your job for you. That's hardly innovative.

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9/03/12 5:28:05 PM#49
Originally posted by Starfired

Now THIS is innovation.

Guild Wars 2? WvWvW? Dynamic Events? Please.

Good job Cryptic. This is really bringing the traditional DnD experience to the MMO genre. Be a Dungeon Master! Its a fantastic idea.

How is this a new feature? This has been in every Neverwinter Nights game.

And this game is barely an MMO. Not more so than any of the previous NW games, which also weren't MMOs. Guess they slapped the moniker on it to get more buzz.


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9/03/12 5:31:17 PM#50
Originally posted by Arglebargle


It will keep out some crap, it will also keep out anything that might be too edgy for them.

If you are talking about UGC content being removed I had a similar concern so I asked in their official forums, and the devs replied that only the content violating EULA will be removed. Rest even if content has poorest rating, it will still be there to play. Also it seems their reviewers would be volunteers from normal users but I am not too sure on this last statement.


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9/03/12 5:39:50 PM#51

This game has, for me, several major selling points:


(1) Its IP. D&D/Neverwinter as a setting has a huge amount of interest and potential.


(2) The Foundry. I really look forward to this aspect of the game.


(3) Mercs/Heroes. This is big with me, but I have not heard much about this in any previews. I like having the option to group with players OR solo (using NPCs) OR play with groups that have both players and NPCs (as I could in Guild Wars 1). I really hope this feature is still part of Neverwinter's game plan. If it isn't, my interest in the game will lessen considerably.


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9/03/12 6:51:21 PM#52
Hm, aren't 90% of all Skyrim mods useless trash and buggy? So why should I be so excited about that? Not so sure. Might be good, might be bad. I hope to see a considerable part of Faerun 4e world, it has changed quite a lot. Alas "Neverwinter" sounds more like a very tiny area with many instanced dungeons. Hmmm.

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"Pablo Picasso said art is a lie that tells the truth."

9/03/12 7:05:01 PM#53

Will the modding community actually embrace it though?

And will Cryptic make a core game that is actually fun?

Star Trek's ground combat, for instance, is not fun.

Champions Online is... marginally fun.

Even with custom missions, those two games aren't all that fun at their core.

I'm still not sold on this idea, even if its it is a sound concept. I'm fine with customers making game content. I'm just not confident in the developers actually developing a fun game.


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9/03/12 9:00:40 PM#54
This sounds great but how complex can it get? Is there a way to change mob mechanics and add in 'boss' type scenarios that require multiple people to accomplish?

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9/03/12 9:01:47 PM#55
Will player content be able to formulate boss mobs with complex mechanics?

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9/03/12 9:02:36 PM#56

City of Heros did a similar thing too, cant remeber if cryptic was still involved when it was implemented,the idea is still very cool :^) LOL i miss running games >.0



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9/03/12 10:08:25 PM#57
Cryptic left City of Heroes after Issue 10 was released.  The Mission Architect was released with Issue 14 more than a year later.

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9/03/12 10:38:08 PM#58
Originally posted by Starfired

Now THIS is innovation.

Guild Wars 2? WvWvW? Dynamic Events? Please.

Good job Cryptic. This is really bringing the traditional DnD experience to the MMO genre. Be a Dungeon Master! Its a fantastic idea.

Correct me if I'm wrong..............Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 has done this before.


Though this is good news.


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9/03/12 10:47:33 PM#59
Originally posted by itgrowls
Apparently no one here has played STO. that will show you just what the foundry is really about, it's not about innovation, it's about creating a game with very little content and then allowing the community to do your job for you. That's hardly innovative.

Pretty much this.

Also, as a Cryptic/PWE game, players can expect very slow, if any game content updates that are not in the cash shop.

And you can bet there will be "treasure chest keys" or some other mechanic for sale in the cash shop allowing the same kind of shady "gambling-lite" that is going on in STO.

In the end, to these supposedly great "player made content options", I say: so what.

If the rest of the game is crap, like other Cryptic titles, and the same cash for scam elements are there, like in other Cryptic titles, then whatever else that might be potentially good is in there, makes absolutely no difference.



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9/03/12 11:05:02 PM#60
Cryptic?  This is sure to flop.  Those models look flat out terrible. 
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