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  Weretigar

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9/02/12 2:43:28 PM#21

Ok, I have to go look super awsome as a Pirate in GW2 now so do what ever you want but if you want to look as awsome as me grinding is not optional. Here is a pic for you. (As you noticed I outleveled my story by alot because dynamic events are crazy fun imho

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  InFlamestwo

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9/02/12 2:45:12 PM#22
Originally posted by Aerowyn
people complain this game has no grind.. now people complain it has a grind:P  thing is the grind was always known they had a huge grind in GW1 for this sort of stuff.. you need something for people to strive for and keep playing.. the big difference between the grind here is the equipment isn't necesary to be competative in world vs world or be able to complete PVE content. It's something you need to work for and earn but is not necessary to enjoy the rest of the games content.. :)

What?? who whined that GW2 had no grind? Everyone i've talked to don't want grind! and now they have added grind when they promised to not have grind. Completing AC on Story Mode is hard, especially when people leave everytime you do it and then you can't add more members and have to restart the dungeon. 1 run = 1 piece of gear. YES PLEASE.

  Calerxes

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9/02/12 2:45:14 PM#23
Originally posted by Beacker
I am so sick of the grind QQ. Everyone has to whine and cry about it. Get over it. Every freakin MMO is going to have one. One persons definition of a grind differs from the next. Stop playing MMO's if you don't like it. That is just how the genre is. Some games more than others. Go find something else productive to do in the game or in real life for that matter. Obviously a lot of you never played EQ1 or Lineage or other games. You have to work towards things in an MMO. People shouldn't just get max level and be handed everything I am sorry but that is just stupid. You want something put the time in. If not then don't. MMO's are a time sink investment period. Suck it up and play the game or quit MMO's altogether end of story.

 

Great post, no game is ever going to give you infinite quality content so to give a game longevity yopu havre to build in grind there is no two ways about it and that goes for Sandbox games as well.

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  Mothanos

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9/02/12 2:47:06 PM#24


Originally posted by littleXuro

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by littleXuro To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average. Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind. Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.   Anyone else feels the same?
I have a solution. Just get one set.  
The point of unique skins is to gather the ones you like, sadly for me I like them almost all. If I want to be forced to stick with 1 set, I play a korean grindfest instead.

Anyone who works fulltime, has his own household to take care of or anything else time consuming must realise that 120+ hours per set is quite outragous considering this is supposed to be the "non-grind mmo."

 



Shall we mail it to you on level 80 ? WoW style ?

Seems like another WoW kid that wants everthing without doing any effort for it.

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  MikeJezZ

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9/02/12 2:51:10 PM#25
Can't you get like legendary by karma points or crafting?

And something about after you ding 80 there's some xp progress still

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  littleXuro

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OP  9/02/12 2:52:39 PM#26
Originally posted by Mothanos

 


Originally posted by littleXuro

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by littleXuro To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average. Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind. Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.   Anyone else feels the same?
I have a solution. Just get one set.  
The point of unique skins is to gather the ones you like, sadly for me I like them almost all. If I want to be forced to stick with 1 set, I play a korean grindfest instead.

 

Anyone who works fulltime, has his own household to take care of or anything else time consuming must realise that 120+ hours per set is quite outragous considering this is supposed to be the "non-grind mmo."

 


 


Shall we mail it to you on level 80 ? WoW style ?

Seems like another WoW kid that wants everthing without doing any effort for it.

 

 

 

Yes, someone who doesn't have the time to waste 120+ hours on a single skin when there are so many ingame and I have several characters is immediately a "WoW kid."

If you can't post anything relevant to the topic, then don't post at all.

 

  Vannor

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9/02/12 2:52:55 PM#27
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by Aerowyn
people complain this game has no grind.. now people complain it has a grind:P  thing is the grind was always known they had a huge grind in GW1 for this sort of stuff.. you need something for people to strive for and keep playing.. the big difference between the grind here is the equipment isn't necesary to be competative in world vs world or be able to complete PVE content. It's something you need to work for and earn but is not necessary to enjoy the rest of the games content.. :)

What?? who whined that GW2 had no grind? Everyone i've talked to don't want grind! and now they have added grind when they promised to not have grind. Completing AC on Story Mode is hard, especially when people leave everytime you do it and then you can't add more members and have to restart the dungeon. 1 run = 1 piece of gear. YES PLEASE.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you don't seem to know as much about the game as you think you do. The armor you get as a reward for AC story mode is not the dungeon armor, it's generic armour that you get for every story mode in any dungeon. Check the second tab on the armor vendors in Lions Arch, you'll know what I mean. Repeating story mode doesn't get you another piece of the 'generic' armor either.

But, what I'm saying actually makes the situation worse for you and backs up what you are saying. Story mode doesn't even get you the dungeon armour. Tokens from explorable mode do, and explorable mode is much much harder than story mode. Plus, you get less than 1 piece of armor per explorable mode run.

BUT, Anet didn't promise no grind.. they promised no grind for STATS. They delivered what they promised. The grind is for skins.

  korent1991

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Joined: 5/01/09
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9/02/12 2:56:43 PM#28
Originally posted by littleXuro
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by littleXuro

To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average.

Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind.

Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.

 

Anyone else feels the same?

I have a solution. Just get one set.  

The point of unique skins is to gather the ones you like, sadly for me I like them almost all. If I want to be forced to stick with 1 set, I play a korean grindfest instead.

Anyone who works fulltime, has his own household to take care of or anything else time consuming must realise that 120+ hours per set is quite outragous considering this is supposed to be the "non-grind mmo."

 

sooo... you want to cross your arms and let the devs give you all the sets because you aren't satisfied with the amount of sets you can get in timely manner?

that's most ridicilous thing I've heard... :D I had 4 armor sets in GW1 (which all have the same core stats, btw) and it took me ALOT of platinum (or shall I say Ectos) and time (like almost a month to get a set at start, last one it took me 1 week to get)... 

 

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  Deathenger

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9/02/12 2:59:01 PM#29
Originally posted by Aerowyn
people complain this game has no grind.. now people complain it has a grind:P  thing is the grind was always known they had a huge grind in GW1 for this sort of stuff.. you need something for people to strive for and keep playing.. the big difference between the grind here is the equipment isn't necesary to be competative in world vs world or be able to complete PVE content. It's something you need to work for and earn but is not necessary to enjoy the rest of the games content.. :)

^this

  littleXuro

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Joined: 5/14/12
Posts: 28

 
OP  9/02/12 3:00:11 PM#30
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by littleXuro
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by littleXuro

To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average.

Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind.

Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.

 

Anyone else feels the same?

I have a solution. Just get one set.  

The point of unique skins is to gather the ones you like, sadly for me I like them almost all. If I want to be forced to stick with 1 set, I play a korean grindfest instead.

Anyone who works fulltime, has his own household to take care of or anything else time consuming must realise that 120+ hours per set is quite outragous considering this is supposed to be the "non-grind mmo."

 

sooo... you want to cross your arms and let the devs give you all the sets because you aren't satisfied with the amount of sets you can get in timely manner?

that's most ridicilous thing I've heard... :D I had 4 armor sets in GW1 (which all have the same core stats, btw) and it took me ALOT of platinum (or shall I say Ectos) and time (like almost a month to get a set at start, last one it took me 1 week to get)... 

 

With the current rate (3 hours playtime a day), it will take me 2 months to get a single set, while farming it, I don't have any time for anything else. So if I want to do other stuff too, that quickly becomes 3+ months.

That's not what I call realistic for 1 set for 1 character. I'm working on 3 characters so you do the math.

  Shodanas

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9/02/12 3:15:00 PM#31
Originally posted by Beacker
I am so sick of the grind QQ. Everyone has to whine and cry about it. Get over it. Every freakin MMO is going to have one. One persons definition of a grind differs from the next. Stop playing MMO's if you don't like it. That is just how the genre is. Some games more than others. Go find something else productive to do in the game or in real life for that matter. Obviously a lot of you never played EQ1 or Lineage or other games. You have to work towards things in an MMO. People shouldn't just get max level and be handed everything I am sorry but that is just stupid. You want something put the time in. If not then don't. MMO's are a time sink investment period. Suck it up and play the game or quit MMO's altogether end of story.

Your arguments are valid. However, i remember various posts with GW 2 fanboys jumping on people's throats when the grind issue came forward. "GW2 has no grind whatsoever", "GW2 does things completely different", "You won't have to do the same thing twice" etc..

  Aerowyn

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9/02/12 3:23:40 PM#32
Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Beacker
I am so sick of the grind QQ. Everyone has to whine and cry about it. Get over it. Every freakin MMO is going to have one. One persons definition of a grind differs from the next. Stop playing MMO's if you don't like it. That is just how the genre is. Some games more than others. Go find something else productive to do in the game or in real life for that matter. Obviously a lot of you never played EQ1 or Lineage or other games. You have to work towards things in an MMO. People shouldn't just get max level and be handed everything I am sorry but that is just stupid. You want something put the time in. If not then don't. MMO's are a time sink investment period. Suck it up and play the game or quit MMO's altogether end of story.

Your arguments are valid. However, i remember various posts with GW 2 fanboys jumping on people's throats when the grind issue came forward. "GW2 has no grind whatsoever", "GW2 does things completely different", "You won't have to do the same thing twice" etc..

where at? cosmetic grind has always been known and anyone who played gw1 should know thats what Anet is about when it comes to grinding. Again main argument is the grind in this game is not necessary to enjoy all the content of the game

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  Creslin321

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9/02/12 3:26:44 PM#33
Theyre just gving you something to work towards if you want to keep playing at high level.  No one is forcing you to do it.  It is good that they have that stuff in the game for folks who like playing a game for a long time.

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  Calerxes

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9/02/12 3:32:29 PM#34
Originally posted by littleXuro
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by littleXuro
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by littleXuro

To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average.

Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind.

Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.

 

Anyone else feels the same?

I have a solution. Just get one set.  

The point of unique skins is to gather the ones you like, sadly for me I like them almost all. If I want to be forced to stick with 1 set, I play a korean grindfest instead.

Anyone who works fulltime, has his own household to take care of or anything else time consuming must realise that 120+ hours per set is quite outragous considering this is supposed to be the "non-grind mmo."

 

sooo... you want to cross your arms and let the devs give you all the sets because you aren't satisfied with the amount of sets you can get in timely manner?

that's most ridicilous thing I've heard... :D I had 4 armor sets in GW1 (which all have the same core stats, btw) and it took me ALOT of platinum (or shall I say Ectos) and time (like almost a month to get a set at start, last one it took me 1 week to get)... 

 

With the current rate (3 hours playtime a day), it will take me 2 months to get a single set, while farming it, I don't have any time for anything else. So if I want to do other stuff too, that quickly becomes 3+ months.

That's not what I call realistic for 1 set for 1 character. I'm working on 3 characters so you do the math.

 

MMO's are long term games are they not? if you get it all in the first six months then what? this was a major complaint with SW:TOR  that the raid gear was too easy to get so the raiders all left. GW1 had almighty grinds for gear and titles thats what kept the PvE crowd happy Arenanet are not going to change what works are they?

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  dais

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9/02/12 3:36:26 PM#35

It seems like there are two issues here.  First is the idea that it takes too long to get all the cosmetic sets.  In MMOs since you can't "beat" the game, all they can do is add time consuming tasks at end game.  That's just a fact, and it will exist in any game that you can't win.  Take for example Player A.  He has a full time job, married, kids, etc.  He plays 5-10 hours a week and usually on weekends.  Now take Player B.  He works part time, and has no RL responsibilities.  He plays 30-40 hours a week, including long play sessions every day.  ArenaNet has to design a game that is fun for both players, but if fun = time invested then it can't work.  They have to design it so someone that doesn't have as much time can still keep up with someone that has loads of time.  It sounds like what you described is a perfect balance.  You can get one set to keep up, but the more active player has things to work on once he has picked up his first set.  Complaining that you can't have it all because you have a life honestly is a poor argument (and I am saying this as a Player A myself).  ArenaNet has given you a game where you can still stay competitive without a huge time investment.  You won't be able to aquire everything, because yes, it takes a LOT of time, and that's in there for those that have it.

 

The second issue though is even one set seems like a big investment, and by itself is a grind.  120 hours for a single set is not easily obtainable by Player A.  If ArenaNet made any claims that the grind would be minimal then this is obviously evidence against that.  At 5-10 hours a week that's 12-24 weeks for a single set.  Playing for half a year to aquire a set is pretty lame :(  I am hoping the OP is exaggerating the time investment, because honestly I know very little about GW2.  It's on my radar for a potential purchase with all the hype that's been generated around it.

  fundayz

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9/02/12 3:39:48 PM#36
Originally posted by littleXuro

To obtain 1 mere set of all available dungeon sets, you need to run explorable mode 60+ times atleast. Assuming you want to obtain several sets to have unique looks for all your characters, you have to do a few hundred runs, all lasting 2+ hours on average.

Last time I remember, ArenaNet said you would get a reward each run to prevent this kind of grind.

Words cannot describe how dissappointed I am, waited 4 years for it and again it's just another grind if I want to build unique characters.

 

Anyone else feels the same?

Dungeon sets are the most prestigious gear in the game. I don't know why on earth you expected it to be handed to you on a silver plater.

 

You don't NEED all the dungeon sets. As a matter of fact, you don't need ANY dungeon set at all.

 

These complaints are getting hilarious. Go complain about some of the actual issues in the game, such as the pointless Tier 1(lv40) and Tier 2(lv60) cultural set/weapons or lack of Trading Post.

 

 

Originally posted by dais

The second issue though is even one set seems like a big investment, and by itself is a grind.  120 hours for a single set is not easily obtainable by Player A.  If ArenaNet made any claims that the grind would be minimal then this is obviously evidence against that.  At 5-10 hours a week that's 12-24 weeks for a single set.  Playing for half a year to aquire a set is pretty lame :(  I am hoping the OP is exaggerating the time investment, because honestly I know very little about GW2.  It's on my radar for a potential purchase with all the hype that's been generated around it.

You don't need any of dungeon gear to be able to have fun or be competitive...

In addition, the OP claims it's 60+ runs for ALL of the sets. A single set would take you 24 hours maximum.

  TsaboHavoc

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9/02/12 3:42:35 PM#37
how about adding dificulty levels, hard, normal, easy and litlleXuro mode where u dont even need to play the game . playing the game is so 90´s.
  littleXuro

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OP  9/02/12 4:10:38 PM#38

I could have seen the childish responses coming from a mile away. MMORPG forums are no place for any serious discussion with valid arguments.

 

Can any moderator please close this topic? 

  Badaboom

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9/02/12 4:14:06 PM#39
Perspective. How long does it take to get endgame WoW gear?
  APRIME

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9/02/12 4:16:06 PM#40
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by Aerowyn
people complain this game has no grind.. now people complain it has a grind:P  thing is the grind was always known they had a huge grind in GW1 for this sort of stuff.. you need something for people to strive for and keep playing.. the big difference between the grind here is the equipment isn't necesary to be competative in world vs world or be able to complete PVE content. It's something you need to work for and earn but is not necessary to enjoy the rest of the games content.. :)

What?? who whined that GW2 had no grind? Everyone i've talked to don't want grind! and now they have added grind when they promised to not have grind. Completing AC on Story Mode is hard, especially when people leave everytime you do it and then you can't add more members and have to restart the dungeon. 1 run = 1 piece of gear. YES PLEASE.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you don't seem to know as much about the game as you think you do. The armor you get as a reward for AC story mode is not the dungeon armor, it's generic armour that you get for every story mode in any dungeon. Check the second tab on the armor vendors in Lions Arch, you'll know what I mean. Repeating story mode doesn't get you another piece of the 'generic' armor either.

But, what I'm saying actually makes the situation worse for you and backs up what you are saying. Story mode doesn't even get you the dungeon armour. Tokens from explorable mode do, and explorable mode is much much harder than story mode. Plus, you get less than 1 piece of armor per explorable mode run.

BUT, Anet didn't promise no grind.. they promised no grind for STATS. They delivered what they promised. The grind is for skins.

 

 

+1, like this.  That's why I'm partial to this game--I like to solo and am too lazy to group for dungeons. 

 

 

Someone else wants to do dungeon runs all day?  Be my guest--your toon may look better than mine, but it's not any stronger.

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