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8/28/12 2:43:51 PM#141
Originally posted by Creslin321 Wow you sure are defensive about this Cres. Yeah...I think it is pushing it because as I said I question how much of the game they've seen. So yeah...it is ridiculous to me. Highly doubt they made it real far in game and there are some issues going on as well as some that weren't even resolved by the time of their review. You can call me a hater if you like :P nomnomnom /dance 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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8/28/12 2:45:30 PM#142
Originally posted by Wickedjelly I agree 100% For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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Originally posted by Nikkita I called them idiots for giving a score tto same score to GW2 that I would have given to Duke nukem forever or the spawn video game for PS. I called them idiots for having absolutely no perspective. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/28/12 2:48:10 PM#144
Got box for nice pice and tried the game. Well, it's beautiful and fun as a sidekick but man that story they have wrote is god awful. My necro was so good that I was unable to continue with that toon and just deleted it. Much worse than Republic side in SWTOR...and that was supposed to be a necro Without a sub it's an OK game but I'd never pay a sub for this one. I just think that games like FE and especially TSW have spoiled me. Haven't checked PvP in GW2 yet though but will do. Overall I'd give GW2 a solid 8.5 for game design but no more than 3 for story writing because I think that part was done by a couple of 12 year olds. Waaaaaay overhyped but I don't regret my purchase and will play it as a good sidekick as I said above. P.S. Anyone else gets annoyed by floating movement and weird camera? |
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8/28/12 2:51:11 PM#145
Originally posted by Creslin321 And saying it is quite allright for GW2 to have 10/10 is what you call having a prespective? please!! My opinions is better than yours and if you disagree with me you are idiots...that is the gist of what you have been posting here. *rolls eyes*.
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Originally posted by Wickedjelly This is the second time I've gotten the "whoa calm down buddy" argument lol. Which is annoying because if you respond to it, then that's proof that you're being defensive or whatever. And if you don't respond to it...then well, the other guy gets in the last word and basically wins. Now that, that is out of the way... I am annoyed because it seems like many folks on this site apply a general rule to every video game that nothing ever deserves a high score, and if you believe that any game deserves a high score, then you are a fanboi. The same can be said for low score and "hater." I however, like to examine games on a case by case basis instead of applying some kind of general rule, and expecting every poster to be basically ambivalent towards every care. My prediction is that GW2 deserves and will receive a metacritic score in the 90's. If I'm wrong, then you can gloat. If I'm right, then it pretty much validates everything I have said. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/28/12 2:55:43 PM#147
Originally posted by Distopia Seems to indicate that these posts are more personally motivated than anyone's willing to admit, doesn't it? I don't like that guy. He's con. I'll go pro-, and begin the post with calling him names...lol I feel better, ripped that newb good. -Nearly every single bad trend in MMO development was started by the developers.--Wordiz |
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Originally posted by Nikkita let's see.... Mean score right now = 8.2 Difference between 10 and mean score = 1.8 Difference between 4 and mean score = 4.2 Comprende? A really low number is way more extreme and further than the mean than a 10 in this case. I know you want to say it's ridiculous just because it's the highest possible number someone can give, and I'm sure there are some people who gave it a 10 for no reason. But if someone gave it a 9.9...would you call that ridiculous? What about a 9.8? I would think that you couldn't possible call a 9.2 out of 10 ridiculous because the game will likely get around that on metacritic critic rating in the end...it has a 100 and a 94 right now. So if a 9.2 isn't ridiculous...then a 10 which is a whopping 0.8 points away is just "out of the question?" Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/28/12 2:57:58 PM#149
So the issue is people expressing opinions that you don't agree with? If someone hates GW2, what is incorrect about the 0 rating? For someone who hates the game, it is unplayable. An unplayable game should get a review of 0. Join the League For Gamers. |
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8/28/12 2:58:46 PM#150
I am not suprised at all. I have been saying for months that GW2 is a disgrace to the MMO genre. Crapy engine and animations, combat designed for consoles and absolutely stupid design choices like complete lack of endgame, missing group mechanics (no tanks and healers), no customisation to the UI etc. Anet made excellent and very aggresive advertising campaign where they managed to sell lack of features and bad game design as "innovation". I`ll give them that. They build it on hate basically. All those cluless kids who hate WoW simply because it is popular were rooting for GW2. [mod edit] |
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8/28/12 2:59:20 PM#151
Originally posted by Creslin321 Creslin, that was almost a z-score! Statistics! :teary-eyed: -Nearly every single bad trend in MMO development was started by the developers.--Wordiz |
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Originally posted by Icewhite Completely agree. The funny thing is that I was painted as a major GW2 fanboi for just pointing out that a bunch of people gave the game a score that was ridiculous far away from the mean, and their reasons were pretty ridiculousy. But apparently, I must be a rabid fanboi because I didn't include some token ridiculous "10" scores, even though a 10 is much closer to the mean in this case. I feel like there are essentially two sides lined up on either side ready to sling mud at each other, and unless you try to appear absolutely neutral in every post you make, then you will be categorized on one side or the other. Well, I'm not going to say stuff that I don't believe just so I can give the appearance of "balance," when I think something is stupid, I will point it out. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/28/12 3:02:10 PM#153
Originally posted by Creslin321
Your reasoning falls if we assume a non-linear scaling. I don't see why it should be linear at all. |
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8/28/12 3:02:28 PM#154
Originally posted by Creslin321 No comprende because this is not what your OP was about. You are annoyed because people are giving GW2 low scores. Even though it is their opinion no matter how ridiculous. It was not about whether they are giving it 1 or 1.9. 2 or 2.9. The aggregate is formed by individual ratings. So even though GW2 could be 9 out of 10 in aggregate it still doesn't change what i think about rating games 1/10 or 10/10 or even 9.8 or 9.9. Both are two sides of same extremes. One is blinded by the hate..other is blinded by his love that he can't see anything wrong with the game.
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Originally posted by lizardbones That is an egocentric argument. "I dislike the game, therefore it should get a 0." No. I dislike Bango Kazooie, but I can still recognize that it's not a bad game. Just like I dislike Eve, but I can see why people would like it. On the same token, I loved Endless Space, but I recognize that it has a lot of issues. This is called perspective. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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Originally posted by Nikkita I have made SEVERAL negative posts about the cash shop in this game. In fact, I'm almost famous around this forum for doing that. So...sorry, but I'm not going to fit neatly into the fanboi box that you're trying to put me in. The OP is about people giving the game a ridiculous score for ridiculous reasons. That's it. However, I will agree with one thing...someone in this conversation seems to have an ulterior motive here. But I don't think it's me ;). Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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Originally posted by TwoThreeFour Because the final score is computed by simple average? Seems like a good reason to me. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/28/12 3:10:38 PM#158
Originally posted by Icewhite Yep, that's the way it looks, and the way it always looks. lol Makes me think of that GOT quote Creslin used back during the TOR wars. STill gives me a chuckle from time to time. The interwebz is serious business.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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8/28/12 3:12:49 PM#159
One thing I have learned over the years, eventually the truth comes out. Doesn't matter how much people hype a game or how much people slam a game. Bad games are bad games, and if the game is bad, people will stop playing it. Good games tend to stick around and grow over time. Mediocre games just - well, languish in mediocrity. I do not think GW2 is immune to the truth. Eventually people will see it for what it is and they will either decide it is for them or it isn't.
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8/28/12 3:12:51 PM#160
Originally posted by Nikkita Blinded is, of course, an unreasonable exageration by both sides. You can't really assume the other team is hopelessly close-minded, without admiting the possibility that your team is, too. Or...it's the hopelessly close-minded that really isn't true, in either case. -Nearly every single bad trend in MMO development was started by the developers.--Wordiz |
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