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  Reizla

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8/28/12 11:49:14 AM#61
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by botrytis

You didn't need to spend it - you could have just used what is given to you. This is the key - it is all OPTIONAL. Your spending that much money is all on you.

 

All you had to do is buy the game and play it.

 

No sympathy here.

He DID need to spend it for more bag slots. It isn't optional when you're literally so overburdoned with gear & you have no room for it.

 

They've intentionally put stopgaps in GW2 to almost force you into buying gems.

 

I'm saddened you cannot see that :|.

 Yeah...not sure what you're going on about. I seem to be doing just fine without purchasing anything from the store.

...not to mention, you can only buy 1 extra bag slot...

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  xpiher

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8/28/12 11:52:00 AM#62
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by Manifold
The chest to key drop ratio is actually 1:0. Keys only come from single completion rewards like personal story quests and map completion. This means there is a maximum number of chests a single character can unlock without spending gems.

Incorrect, you can get keys from the big chests in main dynamic events.. like the Shadow Behemoth.

Yea, thats what I was about to say. You can also get them from Chest themselves. So far, I've opened 4 chest and haven't spent any money. The only thing I'm going to spend money on is bank storage, bag slot on my main, and a character make over when its avaible (I don't like how my character looks, but I don't want to reroll now)


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  Magnetia

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Any fool can know. The point is to understand.

8/28/12 11:52:04 AM#63

I've bought 200 gems for about 50 silver. Slowly building but totally totally awesome.

I will earn it slowly via in game means XD

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  heavy3p0

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8/28/12 12:21:39 PM#64
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by Manifold
The chest to key drop ratio is actually 1:0. Keys only come from single completion rewards like personal story quests and map completion. This means there is a maximum number of chests a single character can unlock without spending gems.

Incorrect, you can get keys from the big chests in main dynamic events.. like the Shadow Behemoth.

 i have recieved one key as a drop from a normal mob in Queensdale, not during a DE. i also found around 12 lock boxes, so this should put the key drop rate at 1:.083 or worse.

  TwoThreeFour

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8/28/12 12:33:59 PM#65
Originally posted by cinos

I used a little over 2 gold, all earned in game, and exchanged it for 600 gems. Unlocked my first bank slot completely for free. :D

If this is the future of cash shops then consider me onboard. :p

That's because they aren't letting the market be truly free; their system forces gem-sellers to either sell at undervalued prices during the starting days/weeks of the servers, not sell gems at all or pay real money through 3rd party site to obtain significantely more gold. It will take some time and lots of "gem-seller-sacrifices" before the equilibrium is met. 

 

The minimum wage is 7.25 dollars under federal U.S. law; on the other hand 600 gems cost about 7.5 dollars. If you played 10+ hours to obtain that gold, then it is somewhat acceptable, but if it took you far less time than that, it is a clear sign of the underhanded effects of the current system.

 

Edit:

In fact, all of you who are buying gems early from other players, should praise that there are people like the topic starter, who are willing to sacrifice themselves by selling at a far too low price.

 

  xpiher

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8/28/12 12:46:44 PM#66
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by cinos

I used a little over 2 gold, all earned in game, and exchanged it for 600 gems. Unlocked my first bank slot completely for free. :D

If this is the future of cash shops then consider me onboard. :p

That's because they aren't letting the market be truly free; their system forces gem-sellers to either sell at undervalued prices during the starting days/weeks of the servers, not sell gems at all or pay real money through 3rd party site to obtain significantely more gold. It will take some time and lots of "gem-seller-sacrifices" before the equilibrium is met. 

 

The minimum wage is 7.25 dollars under federal U.S. law; on the other hand 600 gems cost about 7.5 dollars. If you played 10+ hours to obtain that gold, then it is somewhat acceptable, but if it took you far less time than that, it is a clear sign of the underhanded effects of the current system.

 

Edit:

In fact, all of you who are buying gems early should praise that there are people like the topic starter, who are willing to sacrifice themselves by selling at a far too low price.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the only thing ANET has done is set a ceeling on the amount you can sell gems for which, in an MMO, is needed. GW didn't have a ceeling on prices on any items during launch, which lead to a lot of market manipulation (since nothing is truly finite in an MMO) and massive inflation (again because nothing is finite in an MMO). 


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  TwoThreeFour

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8/28/12 1:20:50 PM#67
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by cinos

I used a little over 2 gold, all earned in game, and exchanged it for 600 gems. Unlocked my first bank slot completely for free. :D

If this is the future of cash shops then consider me onboard. :p

That's because they aren't letting the market be truly free; their system forces gem-sellers to either sell at undervalued prices during the starting days/weeks of the servers, not sell gems at all or pay real money through 3rd party site to obtain significantely more gold. It will take some time and lots of "gem-seller-sacrifices" before the equilibrium is met. 

 

The minimum wage is 7.25 dollars under federal U.S. law; on the other hand 600 gems cost about 7.5 dollars. If you played 10+ hours to obtain that gold, then it is somewhat acceptable, but if it took you far less time than that, it is a clear sign of the underhanded effects of the current system.

 

Edit:

In fact, all of you who are buying gems early should praise that there are people like the topic starter, who are willing to sacrifice themselves by selling at a far too low price.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the only thing ANET has done is set a ceeling on the amount you can sell gems for which, in an MMO, is needed. GW didn't have a ceeling on prices on any items during launch, which lead to a lot of market manipulation (since nothing is truly finite in an MMO) and massive inflation (again because nothing is finite in an MMO). 

 

Unless they changed the system very recently, the seller/buyer cannot put bids at prices of their own choice, they can merely buy/sell for whatever price the system is showing at the moment. Supposidly, the demand/supply affects the rates, but it will take time before those rates reach an equilibrium, much slower than it would in a truly free market. This is a major disadvantage for any person intending to sell gems for gold legally early on. 

 

 

  Nikkita

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8/28/12 1:22:38 PM#68
I will spend on GW2 15 to 20 bucks a month. That is my budget for cash shop lol. Yeah i am cheap.


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  Meowhead

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8/28/12 2:06:38 PM#69
Originally posted by MARTYB2K

A couple of days in and i've already paid more than i would on 2 months subscription to other MMOs. F2P is definetly the way forward. I bought 1600 GEMS.

Used 600 for a extra Bank Slot and changed 800 into 2.5 Gold.

 Yet there's plenty of players who have played and haven't spent a single dollar.

If you can't afford the 20 dollars, I'd suggest you should probably look into some sort of counseling for poor impulse control. :)

  GamerUntouch

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8/28/12 2:08:39 PM#70
Thanks for putting gems into the economy OP.
  travamars

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Posts: 456

8/28/12 2:11:20 PM#71
Originally posted by botrytis

You didn't need to spend it - you could have just used what is given to you. This is the key - it is all OPTIONAL. Your spending that much money is all on you.

 

All you had to do is buy the game and play it.

 

No sympathy here.

That same thing could be said for every F2P game out that got a bad rap for its cash shop. But since its GW2 then its perfectly fine. I guess from now on we'll all say that F2P cash shops are the way to go.

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