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  Arskaaa

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8/28/12 9:20:44 AM#21

Buyed yesterday too 1600 gem:) needed more Bank room :p

Dont mind pay, they have done so well game.

  cinos

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8/28/12 9:22:44 AM#22

I used a little over 2 gold, all earned in game, and exchanged it for 600 gems. Unlocked my first bank slot completely for free. :D

If this is the future of cash shops then consider me onboard. :p

  Reizla

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8/28/12 9:24:58 AM#23
Originally posted by cinos

I used a little over 2 gold, all earned in game, and exchanged it for 600 gems. Unlocked my first bank slot completely for free. :D

If this is the future of cash shops then consider me onboard. :p

Already is for 2 years or so... Turbine introduced it in a different way that you can grind the cash-shop points from deeds (couldn't care about it with life-time sub...). But yeah, if this is the future of cash shop games where you buy the game and can buy in & out of game the cash shop currency, then I'm on board as well.

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  Nitth

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8/28/12 9:26:52 AM#24


Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by MARTYB2K A couple of days in and i've already paid more than i would on 2 months subscription to other MMOs. F2P is definetly the way forward. I bought 1600 GEMS.   Used 600 for a extra Bank Slot and changed 800 into 2.5 Gold.
  In a pay to play mmorpg you would have ALL the content given to you for 2 months at that price.
 

He has all the content open for him. Also, anything that can be bought with gems can be bought with in game gold. Just saying since there seems to be some kind of false assumptions.


Seems like there is superficial locks. How many character slots do you get at the start in gw2 4? 5? then you can additional slots right?

In a pay to play mmorpg ALL those slots are open straight away within the monthly fee, coupled with other things like bag space complexly "unlocked"

Its all personal preference, But it seems to me pay to play is more "bang for buck" then most f2p or hybrid systems such as b2p.

Edit;
(you dont need to defend gw2 with your responses, Im talking about different business models not the game specificity)


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  User Deleted
8/28/12 9:28:05 AM#25

Well having the whole game in a f2p is always going to be drastically more expensive than just buying a p2p game.

The only thing that i find interesting is that with this game they are making you buy the box for a f2p game, and im sure for regular expansions as well.

 

 

Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)

 

Im sorry if this wasnt a glowing point of veiw, i know most people are still blinded by the hype on this one to think clearly about the game.

since it just launched and this is this years overhype game...permission granted to spout vile hatred towards me for not following this years mmo messiah...

  heavy3p0

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8/28/12 9:28:42 AM#26
Yeah. If this was P2P you would have those bank slots for $15 a month! You would have had to give an extra $15 to the gold farmers for the 2.5 gold you were too lazy to earn though.
  Reizla

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MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

8/28/12 9:31:34 AM#27
Originally posted by redman875

Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)

Think you haven't looked at GW(1) cash shop then. Though that game is already 7 years old, the CS is still a reasonable one with no game-breaking items or items that even removely can be called P2W...

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  GeezerGamer

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8/28/12 9:33:10 AM#28


Originally posted by MARTYB2K
A couple of days in and i've already paid more than i would on 2 months subscription to other MMOs. F2P is definetly the way forward. I bought 1600 GEMS.

Used 600 for a extra Bank Slot and changed 800 into 2.5 Gold.


That was a choice you made. Did you feel at all pressured or funneled into it like it had to be done, or did you just want to?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Hrica

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8/28/12 9:33:25 AM#29

The FACT is ..you don't have to spend a penny at all if you don't have it or just don't want to.

For causul players and peeps on a budget...this is great, and parent gamers who's kids are ready to play game's with mom or dad this is great. Also for single moms, dads, nanas...whomever..they will pay for a game with "no credit card required" for gift, over "must have active CC" anyday.

just my 2 cents

  Sixpax

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8/28/12 9:33:34 AM#30
Originally posted by Ethos86

I have spend 50 euro in the shop. Because I wanted, not because I needed.

I still have plenty of gems left but here's what I think:

- the keys to open the chests are too expensive, in the end most chests only had some transformation tonics in it and maybe some kind of buff/boost for a short amount of time

- i do love the bag space unlocks with gems and the bank account storrage, i would have enough space without it (with crafted bags that can contain more items) but it's just handy (especially for cooking profession)

- i transfered a little bit of gems into gold (few silver coins) because i wanted to go crafting and needed to buy more mats from the NPC and i didn't felt like waiting untill i collected enough gold

- i think i might come to the point of spending gem's on mini pets since i like to collect everything (if the pets aren't unlockable in other ways... i don't know)

- i might spend gems on armor skins too (later), but i think i will mainly use them for town clothes

I looked under the expansion section of the gem store for bank account storage but all I saw was inventory expansion and extra character slots.  Where do I find the bank expansion?

MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people.

  Nitth

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8/28/12 9:34:01 AM#31


Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by redman875 Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)
Think you haven't looked at GW(1) cash shop then. Though that game is already 7 years old, the CS is still a reasonable one with no game-breaking items or items that even removely can be called P2W...

Not really relevant...Guild wars 2 has launched in an age where profit is king, and greed destroys games.


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  TdogSkal

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8/28/12 9:35:37 AM#32
Originally posted by MARTYB2K

A couple of days in and i've already paid more than i would on 2 months subscription to other MMOs. F2P is definetly the way forward. I bought 1600 GEMS.

Used 600 for a extra Bank Slot and changed 800 into 2.5 Gold.

Why would you change any into gold yet?  The prices are not even good yet.  It favors gem buyers, give it a few weeks before you start selling gems for the price to go up.  2.5 gold for 800 gems is chump change and not worth it at all.

 

Also you paid $20 for 1600 Gems how is that 2 month subscription? Most Monthy Subscriptions are $14.95.  

I bought 1600 gems as well.  600 for extra bank slot and 2 5 pack of keys.  The rest I will be saving until the price per gem goes up.

Sooner or Later

  Wickedjelly

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8/28/12 9:36:08 AM#33

/shrug

I haven't bought any gems nor do I see a reason to unless I feel like splurging for the hell of it. Bit ridiculous how many mystic chests I have though. Have to say that is the one thing about this system that pisses me off. Thank god they stack.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  wowfan1996

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8/28/12 9:41:15 AM#34
Originally posted by MARTYB2K

A couple of days in and i've already paid more than i would on 2 months subscription to other MMOs. F2P is definetly the way forward. I bought 1600 GEMS.

Used 600 for a extra Bank Slot and changed 800 into 2.5 Gold.

Nobody forced you, you know? :) I spent 60 euro on the game and nothing above that price. Feeling fine.

As much as I dislike cash shops, this complaint is just silly.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  saranya

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8/28/12 9:43:14 AM#35
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by redman875 Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)
Think you haven't looked at GW(1) cash shop then. Though that game is already 7 years old, the CS is still a reasonable one with no game-breaking items or items that even removely can be called P2W...

 

Not really relevant...Guild wars 2 has launched in an age where profit is king, and greed destroys games.

so if you had a business, you would not concern yourself with making a profit?  or operate at a loss or breakeven to make customers happy or out of the goodness of your heart?

btw, without profit, there is no reinvestment into new products.

  Loktofeit

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8/28/12 9:43:53 AM#36
Originally posted by Nitth

Seems like there is superficial locks. How many character slots do you get at the start in gw2 4? 5? then you can additional slots right?

In a pay to play mmorpg ALL those slots are open straight away within the monthly fee, coupled with other things like bag space complexly "unlocked"

Extremely misleading, if not completely false. If anything, the more accurate statement is that in most MMOs you have a finite amount of character and bag slots and F2P allows you to buy more. Keep repeating the same thing over and over again, though. Eventually you might actually believe that silly talking point yourself. Cheers!

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  Ethos86

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8/28/12 9:44:04 AM#37
Originally posted by Sixpax
Originally posted by Ethos86

I have spend 50 euro in the shop. Because I wanted, not because I needed.

I still have plenty of gems left but here's what I think:

- the keys to open the chests are too expensive, in the end most chests only had some transformation tonics in it and maybe some kind of buff/boost for a short amount of time

- i do love the bag space unlocks with gems and the bank account storrage, i would have enough space without it (with crafted bags that can contain more items) but it's just handy (especially for cooking profession)

- i transfered a little bit of gems into gold (few silver coins) because i wanted to go crafting and needed to buy more mats from the NPC and i didn't felt like waiting untill i collected enough gold

- i think i might come to the point of spending gem's on mini pets since i like to collect everything (if the pets aren't unlockable in other ways... i don't know)

- i might spend gems on armor skins too (later), but i think i will mainly use them for town clothes

I looked under the expansion section of the gem store for bank account storage but all I saw was inventory expansion and extra character slots.  Where do I find the bank expansion?

Whell, you find it in the bank itself. There was some button on the right top of where i could see what was in my account storrage (bank). I could there double that storrage for 600 gems i think.

Same with the inventory expansion, i didn't buy it in the store. If you click the lock icon after pressing "I" to open up inventory then you can unlock those for 400 gems directly.

I hope you are able to find it now.

  MosesZD

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8/28/12 9:51:20 AM#38
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by redman875 Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)
Think you haven't looked at GW(1) cash shop then. Though that game is already 7 years old, the CS is still a reasonable one with no game-breaking items or items that even removely can be called P2W...

 

Not really relevant...Guild wars 2 has launched in an age where profit is king, and greed destroys games.

 

lol.   No, it was launched in a era where people cherry-pick facts and present them inappropriately to make up false arguments on the Internet.   Which is not that different from pre-Internet days, except there is much more of a global impact for false arguments than in the past.

 

  Sixpax

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8/28/12 9:53:47 AM#39
Originally posted by Ethos86
Originally posted by Sixpax
Originally posted by Ethos86

I have spend 50 euro in the shop. Because I wanted, not because I needed.

I still have plenty of gems left but here's what I think:

- the keys to open the chests are too expensive, in the end most chests only had some transformation tonics in it and maybe some kind of buff/boost for a short amount of time

- i do love the bag space unlocks with gems and the bank account storrage, i would have enough space without it (with crafted bags that can contain more items) but it's just handy (especially for cooking profession)

- i transfered a little bit of gems into gold (few silver coins) because i wanted to go crafting and needed to buy more mats from the NPC and i didn't felt like waiting untill i collected enough gold

- i think i might come to the point of spending gem's on mini pets since i like to collect everything (if the pets aren't unlockable in other ways... i don't know)

- i might spend gems on armor skins too (later), but i think i will mainly use them for town clothes

I looked under the expansion section of the gem store for bank account storage but all I saw was inventory expansion and extra character slots.  Where do I find the bank expansion?

Whell, you find it in the bank itself. There was some button on the right top of where i could see what was in my account storrage (bank). I could there double that storrage for 600 gems i think.

Same with the inventory expansion, i didn't buy it in the store. If you click the lock icon after pressing "I" to open up inventory then you can unlock those for 400 gems directly.

I hope you are able to find it now.

Thanks!  I'll try that.

MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people.

  Nitth

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8/28/12 9:55:45 AM#40


Originally posted by saranya

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by redman875 Oh...this game just launched...cash shops are ALWAYS fair reasonable and balanced early on, its only later that they slowly slip in p2w items.  Remember games are a business, and a business is set to make as much money as possible.  They have the ability to really sell anything since the community accepts its an item mall game (with a p2p AAA box sale every expansion as well)
Think you haven't looked at GW(1) cash shop then. Though that game is already 7 years old, the CS is still a reasonable one with no game-breaking items or items that even removely can be called P2W...
  Not really relevant...Guild wars 2 has launched in an age where profit is king, and greed destroys games.
so if you had a business, you would not concern yourself with making a profit?  or operate at a loss or breakeven to make customers happy or out of the goodness of your heart?

btw, without profit, there is no reinvestment into new products.


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