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General Discussion  » Good...until combat. Dumbed down so much.

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  lapomme

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Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 275

8/28/12 10:04:11 AM#141

The combat system in PvE is similar to every single other MMO post-WoW.  Let's get that straight.  I don't understand how people don't see this.  You pick your skills, there's a certain combination of numbers that you press over and over and over (or just randomly when they cooldown), and the mobs die.  It's been like this for enternity and changes VERY little from MMO to MMO.  You should not judge a post-WoW MMO's combat system from PvE as most of them follow this pattern.

PvP, on the other hand, is a different matter.  While GW2 is definitely much faster than most MMO's (and sadly kind of feels like WoW), there is definitely some unique elements to it.  My buddy has been playing every beta weekend 24/7 straight.  He's about 50 now and hasn't exploited anything.  And I can tell you for sure, he knows the best way to beat every class in PvP using his Guardian (he's played all the other classes a ton).

A lot of people don't realize how important timing interrupts or dodges with their opponents' most important skills is.  Guild Wars 2 is fast, and the skill/spell animations are not very unique.  However, my friend knows every skill for each class and what it looks like.  He can interrupt or dodge their elites, and crush them in turn.  He really isn't someone you wanna screw with in the field.  He also leads our guilds PvP group and I can tell you there is definitely a specialized skill in that too.  He knows what targets to call first, demands we throw certain skills on them, etc.

There is a lot of hidden skill in this game, and a lot of it I haven't really figured out.  It takes time, experience, and practice.  People that complain all the time about simplicity, classes being imbalanced, and other stuff are simply whiners who are too lazy to understand the true mechanics after they get rolled a couple of times.

Have you gone 5v5 against one of the best guilds in the game?  I have.  They showed us that there is a lot of skill required in this game when we got absolutely annihilated by them.  Completely crushed.  And we aren't exactly "noobs".

Just my 2 cents.

  byendrey

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Joined: 8/28/12
Posts: 14

8/28/12 10:15:36 AM#142

The game is dumbed down some in a lot of ways.  You can tell it's definitely targeted to casual players but there is still something for everyone.

I don't understand this whole button mashing argument?  On my warrior I have a lot of different resources to manage:

1.  Energy or endurance (whatever you use to dodge)  if you haven't realized it yet this is a critical resource and I actually use skills to increase my regen of it. 

2.  Skill cooldowns, each weapon has a combination of different snares and burst damage and the timing on them is critical.  If you miss or use one at the wrong time it can be bad news especially if you're actually fighting other players.

3.  Weapon swapping, being able to transition from bow/rifle to sword at the right times is a must

4.  Adrenaline, what do I need to say?  It's the same kind of resource that rises and falls just like every other game and it a critical part of dps.

5.  Runes, not sure what to say if you can't understand the benefits of actively managing these resources you aren't doing it right.

 

Using auto attacks I can take on stuff my level.  Effectively managing all of the above I'm able to take on several mobs up to 7 levels higher than me and the game rewards me for this with better loot.  It's fun and I feel like I'm being rewarded for it.  In PVP the players able to manage all of their stuff will be the ones not dying and getting all the kills.

You just keep on button mashing though and you will have some success that's the beauty of the game actually.  It's fun for everyone at all skill levels!!

 

  Zezda

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 697

8/28/12 10:28:30 AM#143
Hey guys, this game has combat.. such a WoW Clone!
  Pyrat

Novice Member

Joined: 8/15/12
Posts: 4

8/28/12 10:47:58 AM#144
I think they are just trying to speed up the process and feel of the game. With normal subscription MMO the idea is to keep you playing as long as possible. So things like depositing crafting supplies to your bank would require going back to town (hub, station, base, etc.) where with GW2 they want you to move through quickly so depositing becomes as easy as clicking a button in your inventory. Personally I really like it, this game doesn't feel like one big cash grab. More like they think they have a great game that players will want to spend money on instead of have to spenf money on.

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