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  Wakygreek

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Joined: 4/30/08
Posts: 1244

Reason is a necessity

 
OP  8/27/12 11:34:52 AM#1

Hey,

So I had the pleasure of starting gw2 in the headstart weekend. I have to say the game certainly is fun, I think a lot of other people are in this boat as well we have to get used to how gw2 works compared to other mmo's.

I think so far the most challenging class I played this weekend was easily the Thief. They can dish out a ton of damage, but they are limited when it comes to weapon selections.

I was hoping to see some builds out there to get a good indication if I was playing my thief right lol. I am not sure how to build my thief properly when it comes to the weapon sets. So far I tend to use Sword/Dagger and short bow for PVE, and Dagger/Pistol or pistol/pistol for pvp.

I havn't unlocked a ton of utility skills, however now that I finally know the race/class I want to play, I will pick up the pace a little more.

Any suggestions on what weapon sets / utility skils work best for pve and pvp? Also, I tend to focus on getting items with high precision, of course this in the end makes me a glass cannon. I am starting to thin I need to just stack health and tougness for pvp.

  Preacher26

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 376

"This isn't good or bad. It's just the way of things. Nothing stays the same."

8/27/12 11:56:57 AM#2

for sPvP I run sword/pistol and pistol/pistol.

Trait for extra initiative regen/gain and you can pretty much teleport  to your target and stunlock them until their dead.

There are other builds that are very bursty but I prefer this setup overall. Havent met a class I cant beat 1v1 although some mesmers give me a run for my money.

  k-damage

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Joined: 12/27/11
Posts: 751

8/27/12 11:56:58 AM#3

Hi, and welcome to the Thief :)

Didn't invest myself into PvP yet, but I can share my experience with PvE. 

Prefered Weapon set : Dagger / Dagger + Shortbow

Trait Build : Trickery (+7)

Utility skills orientation : Passive buffs

 

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Base gameplay :

Dagger / Dagger for normal fights, Bow for AOE boss fights and / or when you're low on life.

Dag/Dag works mainly on pouring as many Double Strikes (main attack) as possible, with a Cloak n Dagger ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cloak_and_Dagger ) + Backstab ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Backstab ) whenever you have enough initiative.

Leaping Death Blossom ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Death_Blossom ) is useful when you're fighting slow hitting enemies, like giants. Their strikes are easy to predict, and performing a LDB will confuse them for 2s if you evade the strike with it.

HeartSeeker (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Heartseeker) is very good only against packs that low HP. But Backstab will always hit harder.

Dancing Dagger ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dancing_Dagger ) is good when you need to evade quickly, before a roll for example. This can also be used to start a ranged fight with Shortbow.

Shortbow gameplay is pretty simple and self-explicit, so I won't cover it here.

Utility skills :

So for utility, I prefer passive buffs so I can focus on mastering the weapon sets during first levels. So I chosed (wiki is down atm, links may not work) : 

Signet of Malice : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Malice . Passive heal on each hit (while not on cooldown). Super effective if you're using Dagger / Dagger, as they're the fastest hitting weapons. Try some Leaping Death Blossom to turn 6-7 hits into 6-7 heals, for example.

Signet of Agility : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Agility . More crit chance, to maximize the Backstab.

Assassin Signet ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Signet ) : More power to balance the lower hitting values of daggers, so your Backstab is once again maximized.

 

tip : any passive Utility skill will stop grating its passive bonus as long as it's on cooldown (after triggering its active part). I realized it later on, and it helped me better understand why it wasn't that useful in some situations : I just activated its active bonus whenever I could, which is bad strategy. So use it wisely. For bursts or quick emergency heals, for example.

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Trait Build : Trickery

 

So this is a build that takes avantage of conditions (poison, bleeding) and stealing. It's where the dagger/dagger really shines. If you rollover the higher trait skills, you will discover that you can have tons of initiative regen (Initial Strike : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Initial_Strike ), plus Backstabbing oriented mechanics ( http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flanking_Strikes ). That synergizes very well with Cloak and Dagger + Backstab.

This is also the build of resource management, with : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lead_Attacks

Coupled with http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Uncatchable and http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Instinctual_Response , this is leading your Thief to be a "Hit 'N Run" deadly assassin.

In PvP, this can also be the build of silent buff stealers, where you steal 2 buffs from your target and apply them to allies : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bountiful_Theft

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  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1530

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

8/27/12 12:22:27 PM#4

I use pistol/pistol and short-bow for both PVE and PVP. Dual pistols for single target and short-bow for groups.

For PVE, I usually go for the damage and crit buff sigils plus the blinding powder for sticky situations.


Depending on the situation. Usually for PVP I run with blinding powder, signet of shadows and trip-wire trap.


I've been pvping ALOT in WvWvW these past 48 hours on my thief. 25% movement speed sigil + infiltrator arrow. No one can catch me and I hardly ever die. If some one is chasing me down, the trip-wire trap usually leaves them for dust.


I went and got every skill node in the WvWvW map where my server has basically lost every thing. So I was basically deep in enemy territory almost all the time. I've out run zergs and even the odd enemy that never gives up on chasing me once they spot me.


Manage to kite and almost kill a group of 4 chasing me until I wasn't looking where I was going and went smack into the middle of a zerg from the other enemy server. Fun times with poor luck.


Thief is great for scouting, damage and for fort defence. Hit and run tactics and supply/repair runs it excels at.

  tranceauf

Novice Member

Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 30

8/27/12 12:27:42 PM#5
I like dagger/pistol and shortbow.  The shortbow movement skills are so awesome and I love how dagger pistol can alway evade.
  Wakygreek

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Joined: 4/30/08
Posts: 1244

Reason is a necessity

 
OP  8/27/12 12:45:20 PM#6
Thanks for the replies, so far it seems no one uses the sword at all. I think I need to invest in a second pistol and a second dagger. Unfortunately I sold my secondary dagger while trying to clear up some inventory space.
  Preacher26

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 376

"This isn't good or bad. It's just the way of things. Nothing stays the same."

8/27/12 1:33:44 PM#7
Originally posted by Wakygreek
Thanks for the replies, so far it seems no one uses the sword at all. I think I need to invest in a second pistol and a second dagger. Unfortunately I sold my secondary dagger while trying to clear up some inventory space.

Dont give in... sword/pistol is really good for pvp as long as you trait it properly

  NateEssex

Novice Member

Joined: 7/16/06
Posts: 58

9/02/12 9:10:49 AM#8
It may sound like a stupid question, but what are the best stealth abilities with corresponding weapons? I want to pvp & WvWvW. Thanks!
Also, do you have a build explaining the skill points allocation for pvp?

Current: GW2 (almost)
Played: EQ, DAoC,EQOA,Shadowbane,WoW, WAR, SWTOR, TSW

  pags411

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Joined: 4/10/12
Posts: 99

9/06/12 3:25:02 PM#9

Still trying out all the weapons.  I prefer the shortbow for ranged (or pistol/dagger) because of the combos it allows.  Dagger dagger is an awesome melee set up.  Sword/pistol is strong too.  Pistol whip is good dps.  I am not sure how I want to trait yet.  I like trickery, acrobatics and shadow arts.  Depending on how I find myself playing in pvp I will decide on a trait focus. 

 

I've played a rogue in every MMO I've tried.  I don't always main a rogue, but I always play one.  I love seeing how games design the class.  Rift had a pretty cool rogue class in my opinion (rogue tank was the SHIT).  However, this game has forever changed the way I look at a rogue class.  Hands down the coolest concept ever.  I'm curious to see how well it executes as i continue my journey.