Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

I have no idea.   I have yet to be seriously jeapordized by twh weapon use as a guardian.    Are you not moving or something?

Originally posted by MikeJezZ
When I use 2 hand weapons with my guardian, I allmost loses 30% of my health at each hit. Why?

you are in a level range higher than your level.

thats most likely the reason.

You have to stay geared to your level if you plan to jump into higher level zones.

Also would suggest you combo 2hander weapons with Staff so you can excape in time of need. Makes great defense.

2hander need to be kept up to date so you can deal damage through the glances and make sure you have some dots and protection skills. Also only use the starter heal when soloing in higher level zones. Because it has the block effect which come in handy.

So, if learned well..

A guardian can be a good damage dealer in PvP and might even be able to take down some opponents?

Originally posted by Knightblast

Originally posted by MikeJezZ

Originally posted by KingJiggly
Guardians have low health, high armor. They are designed to redirect/ lower damage on themselves and teammates. If you want in yo face, go warrior, or possibly thief.

So Guardian sucks as damage dealer?

It's not the focus of the class.  I have a Guardian as well.  It's a defensive/buff class -- probably the best way to look at it -- not a magic using melee DPS class.

It looks like the vanilla wow pally resurrected. It might get to wear cloth armor soon.

Originally posted by gambitknight
I am a guardian too and I was having a similar problem, what I've realized is that using a 2h weapon as a guardian creates a dramatic drop in your defense and block rate, and on top of that your 2h weapon has absolutely no defensive skills. As for fixing this problem, I only switch to my 2h sword while my mace + shield skills are on cooldown, then switch back to drop my protection boon and use the skill that creates a thick bubble knocking enemies back. While in combat make sure to dodge roll and turn around and run for the hills if your getting jumped, as you will surely die no matter what class you are. Also, don't forget that in combat you can switch you weapon at will, so u can spam all 8 active skills you have in succession rather smoothly.

So Guardian isnt really viable with 2 hander :(

Since I need to constantly swap? If I have 2 hander / 1 h /shield, I cant have a scepter etc, and then Im also nerfed in range...

There isn't as much difference between light and heavy armor as people think when it comes to mitigating damage.   It helps but if you test it, it is definitely not comparable to the difference you are used to in other games, especially as you pass the newbie levels.

What ends up happening is since the heavy armor classes often engage in melee in this game, they go in with the powerful warrior and guardian AOE attacks that clear out mobs while circle strafing mobs...end up avoiding a round of attacks due to them moving around, then the mobs are dead and they think "SURVIVABILITY!"

Try standing still even with a warrior, you'll die real quick.   You really don't want to get hit by anything in this game, it hurts like hell no matter what your profession.   Even if you trait/build for lots of toughness or something, if you facetank you will drop like a rock...it just provides a little more room for error.

Even moreso if the mobs are a little higher level than you, which happens very regularly in this game particularly early in the game if you don't cycle through all the racial starting areas.

You have to learn that this isn't a "WoW clone" and that dodging and new tactics have to be learned and practiced to survive.

As a warrior, if I'm hurt, I'll use my KIck ability to kick an enemy away from me, then i'll fire my healing ability.  If i'm badly hurt I might have to do this twice before I go back in to fight.

Float like a butterfly

Or else you'll get stung by the bee.

I know this isnt a WoW clone, and I am very happy that it isnt :)

It seems I do greater in sPvP than in WvW and PvE.

sPvP I had a chance to nuke someone really fast, while some engineers kept destroying me pretty fast.

The reason I chosed Guardian over Warrior was because my friend is a warrior and I dont want to be the same as him, and the gear looks cooler at the start :P

I domt mind buffing/debuffing, but I want to be a damage dealer, and not a tank etc.

(yes I know theres no directly tank class, I just meant primarily a shield player)

Originally posted by MikeJezZ

Originally posted by gambitknight
I am a guardian too and I was having a similar problem, what I've realized is that using a 2h weapon as a guardian creates a dramatic drop in your defense and block rate, and on top of that your 2h weapon has absolutely no defensive skills. As for fixing this problem, I only switch to my 2h sword while my mace + shield skills are on cooldown, then switch back to drop my protection boon and use the skill that creates a thick bubble knocking enemies back. While in combat make sure to dodge roll and turn around and run for the hills if your getting jumped, as you will surely die no matter what class you are. Also, don't forget that in combat you can switch you weapon at will, so u can spam all 8 active skills you have in succession rather smoothly.

So Guardian isnt really viable with 2 hander :(

 

Since I need to constantly swap? If I have 2 hander / 1 h /shield, I cant have a scepter etc, and then Im also nerfed in range...

 

 

I wouldn't be so sure. This old video shows guardian doing quite welll against a warrior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO6tyJ8oG6E

Guardians have the lowest health pool in the game, so yes, getting hit will take a significant portion of that health.

To compensate, Guardians also have easily the most defensive skill-set in the game, and with proper use can survive some pretty unbelievalbe situations.

As I understand, they also gain more HP per point of Vitality than any other class, so throwing some points towards it might not be a bad idea.