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  Hancakes

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OP  9/28/12 12:10:28 AM#21
Originally posted by Shyatic

I have to say this much, no game has ever given me this source of entertainment WITHOUT playing it.

 

Hilarious.

Things would have been reversed if you had played it.

  aRtFuLThinG

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9/28/12 12:26:31 AM#22
Originally posted by CroniteLore
MO is always going to be niche.

Lol.

Darkfall is niche.

MO is just plain broken.

Both are same type of games. If MO couldn't even reach the level of sub/level of competence (at least) that Darkfall is doing, it is pretty bad, since they are both small developers with similar market focus.

  deathshroud

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9/28/12 1:55:35 AM#23

no idea why this thread had to be necroed.  but....

 

MO is a decent game thats poorly put together, i like darkfall and i like MO and i would not in any way say darkfall offers everything MO offers. they are very different games.

 

I am however tired of going in circles with MO's developers SV. it seems like they promise something and they dont deliver it to even a basic standard and then make similar promises about the next patch which also doesnt deliver.

 

Im relatively new to darkfall so maybe im abit kind to it, but i like darkfall becasue it actually works as opposed to mo and its world feels much more alive. The ai is the best i have seen in an MMO as well.

 

Although a few experiences have lead me to question the games mechanics, we had a boat and about 15 people we were having fun helping to siege etc and many of our players had been playing a long time they werent all complete newbies. Until 3 veterans in infernal gear boarded our ship and sluaghted all 15 of us without breaking a sweat just mouse click spamming attack it did feel abit pointless.

 

 

Looking forward to darkfall unholy wars.

 

 

From what im hearing about MO it is almost the end soon it will be time to morn the game for those that enjoyed it since theres a significant lul in active players and coming straight from an expansion that isnt good, people seem to be quiting left and right.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  realnaste

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9/28/12 9:31:59 AM#24
Originally posted by deathshroud

no idea why this thread had to be necroed.  but....

 

MO is a decent game thats poorly put together, i like darkfall and i like MO and i would not in any way say darkfall offers everything MO offers. they are very different games.

 

I am however tired of going in circles with MO's developers SV. it seems like they promise something and they dont deliver it to even a basic standard and then make similar promises about the next patch which also doesnt deliver.

 

(...)

 

From what im hearing about MO it is almost the end soon it will be time to morn the game for those that enjoyed it since theres a significant lul in active players and coming straight from an expansion that isnt good, people seem to be quiting left and right.

I lately hate it when you seem to be right :(

And the worst part is there is absolutely nothing out there for me. You at least have your DF :(

I need a hug.

...or vodka.

  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

 
OP  9/28/12 1:12:24 PM#25
Originally posted by realnaste
Originally posted by deathshroud

no idea why this thread had to be necroed.  but....

 

MO is a decent game thats poorly put together, i like darkfall and i like MO and i would not in any way say darkfall offers everything MO offers. they are very different games.

 

I am however tired of going in circles with MO's developers SV. it seems like they promise something and they dont deliver it to even a basic standard and then make similar promises about the next patch which also doesnt deliver.

 

(...)

 

From what im hearing about MO it is almost the end soon it will be time to morn the game for those that enjoyed it since theres a significant lul in active players and coming straight from an expansion that isnt good, people seem to be quiting left and right.

I lately hate it when you seem to be right :(

And the worst part is there is absolutely nothing out there for me. You at least have your DF :(

Darkfall 2's right around the corner or have you already written that off?

  KatlaOdindottir

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Joined: 6/02/10
Posts: 150

9/28/12 1:15:54 PM#26
Train wreck of a game.

www.daneslaw.com

@GamerKurisu

Awaiting Darkfall Unholy Wars

  Mad+Dog

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Joined: 3/02/10
Posts: 670

9/28/12 1:17:05 PM#27

tried to patch the last few days, just keep getting errors.

 

look slike i wont be playing it now, patcher dont even work!!!!

  Lahuzer

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Posts: 683

Sit on my face and tell me that you love me...

9/28/12 1:32:39 PM#28
I never had any problems downloading a patch. It sure is funny to read about people having these problems. But if you write on the forums, or contact live support you always get help quickly. So better do that, then cry out here.
  Hancakes

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OP  9/28/12 1:38:57 PM#29
Originally posted by Lahuzer
I never had any problems downloading a patch. It sure is funny to read about people having these problems. But if you write on the forums, or contact live support you always get help quickly. So better do that, then cry out here.

The patcher has always been a POS, thats why they keep "fixing" it.  You dont see a problem with people still needing help to get the patcher working  two years after release?

Weird how everything " works fine"  for the Swedes.

  realnaste

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9/28/12 3:05:52 PM#30

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

Originally posted by realnaste

Originally posted by deathshroud no idea why this thread had to be necroed.  but....   MO is a decent game thats poorly put together, i like darkfall and i like MO and i would not in any way say darkfall offers everything MO offers. they are very different games.   I am however tired of going in circles with MO's developers SV. it seems like they promise something and they dont deliver it to even a basic standard and then make similar promises about the next patch which also doesnt deliver.   (...)   From what im hearing about MO it is almost the end soon it will be time to morn the game for those that enjoyed it since theres a significant lul in active players and coming straight from an expansion that isnt good, people seem to be quiting left and right.
I lately hate it when you seem to be right :( And the worst part is there is absolutely nothing out there for me. You at least have your DF :(
Darkfall 2's right around the corner or have you already written that off?
 
Warning- I am going out in half an hour, and I am getting prepared for that with some Smirnoff (for sanitising purposes!), so the following post may not have any sense at all. I am sorry. I will repent tomorrow when I'm at work at 6.00 am.

 

haha. Of course. I have no faith whatsoever that that game will ever become a sandbox.
I also find it extremely hard to find non-fpv games fun. I love immersion, and any view that is not from the characters eyes just breaks it for me. To give an example- I love the WH40k world, but although I do appreciate the way the world of the recently released Space Marine has been crafted, with all it's epic glory in decline, I just could not get past the TPV and the "console feel" to it.
Anyway- I'd probably get past the perspective in an mmo, since I spent a lot of time with L2 back in the days, but that game (DF) is just...a big fighting arena. I will go to Quake for something like that, or, if I'm looking for scale- PS2.
Darkfall in my eyes failed even more than Mortal. Even before they started, AV broke all the promises, and started to cut down on the features. They didn't even have the balls to try. It has it's positives of course (like the game actually working in areas they focused on), but that is definitely not good enough for me.
To put it short:
Just like I'd choose Daggerfall with all it's bugs and unplayable main quest line over Diablo, I'd still, even now, chose MO over DF.

  Hancakes

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Posts: 1106

 
OP  9/28/12 4:38:49 PM#31
Originally posted by realnaste

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

Originally posted by realnaste

Originally posted by deathshroud no idea why this thread had to be necroed.  but....   MO is a decent game thats poorly put together, i like darkfall and i like MO and i would not in any way say darkfall offers everything MO offers. they are very different games.   I am however tired of going in circles with MO's developers SV. it seems like they promise something and they dont deliver it to even a basic standard and then make similar promises about the next patch which also doesnt deliver.   (...)   From what im hearing about MO it is almost the end soon it will be time to morn the game for those that enjoyed it since theres a significant lul in active players and coming straight from an expansion that isnt good, people seem to be quiting left and right.
I lately hate it when you seem to be right :( And the worst part is there is absolutely nothing out there for me. You at least have your DF :(
Darkfall 2's right around the corner or have you already written that off?

Darkfall in my eyes failed even more than Mortal. Even before they started, AV broke all the promises, and started to cut down on the features. They didn't even have the balls to try. It has it's positives of course (like the game actually working in areas they focused on), but that is definitely not good enough for me.
To put it short:
Just like I'd choose Daggerfall with all it's bugs and unplayable main quest line over Diablo, I'd still, even now, chose MO over DF.

Holy hyocrite!  You support MO yet they have done all that and more plus have proven unable to make a funtional game.  While dismissing a yet to be released game by a proven team?

 

What exactly does MO offer now that AV didnt have the " balls to try" ?

  GreenishBlue

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9/28/12 4:47:13 PM#32
ya, this may be the awakening for the few players left

  SaintPhilip

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Posts: 729

9/28/12 5:27:32 PM#33
Originally posted by Lahuzer
I never had any problems downloading a patch. It sure is funny to read about people having these problems. But if you write on the forums, or contact live support you always get help quickly. So better do that, then cry out here.

You do realize that realnaste has been one of the best supporters this game has had. Both him and deathshroud have been here defending this "game" against us "haters" and doing it in a very civil way (unlike most from the MO "club")

You accuse him of "crying"? LOL. Read the forums, game is circling the drain bro- Well, its BEEN circling the drain but now even the hardcore supporters are "awakening" to the fact that this scam and this hype which SV constantly puts out to keep people subbed is all BS. SV lacks the skil to fix anything and can only hype.

No "crying" going on bro. The MO forums are so heavily censored it isnt funny.

MO is losing its biggest fans and now the "attack" is turning on them.

Pathetic.

See ya in DF 2.0 realnaste. It will be a pleasure to play with someone as civil as yourself.

R.I.P. MO.

EDIT: Strike this post. Not going to delete it but its pointless. I thought you were quoying realnaste (and you were not) so my reading comprehension failed me- =P

  Hancakes

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Posts: 1106

 
OP  9/28/12 7:00:23 PM#34
Originally posted by GreenishBlue
ya, this may be the awakening for the few players left

 appears Starvault ran out of Kool-Aid

  KatlaOdindottir

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9/28/12 7:03:09 PM#35
Originally posted by GreenishBlue
ya, this may be the awakening for the few players left

Made me chuckle irl, correct though.

www.daneslaw.com

@GamerKurisu

Awaiting Darkfall Unholy Wars

  Jakdstripper

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9/28/12 7:33:17 PM#36

the only thing that there is to do in game "pvp" is brokent beyon belief. what else do you expect?

i logged in for the free week. i only wanted 1 thing to be fixed, the prediction system. asked a guildmate to skirmish. we start the fight and sure enough he is hitting me from 20 feet away while facing away from me.....ffs....not this shit, STILL!!!

 

/uninstal.

  Talonsin

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9/28/12 7:58:32 PM#37

Seems the second quarter was very tough on SV

1st Qtr loss = 577,877

2nd Qtr loss = 1,116,249

Seems lots of people left while waiting for awakenings.  I would imagine the 3rd quarter report might actually show a small profit from everyone coming back to check out awakenings but then I predict a strong 4th quarter loss.

 

On the bright side, the high equity ratio means security to shareholders in the event a company is liquidated, since most of the assets are financed by equity and not by debt.  Still I would hate to have been one of the initial investors in SV. 

  Talonsin

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9/28/12 8:09:12 PM#38

Ouch, I just did some math...

 

The average price of SV stock was 2.25 SEK for the two months before launch and before that it had peaked at over 2.75 at times of Henricks pre-launch PR releases.  The stock is now sitting at .13 SEK, this means if you invested 10,000 SEK right before launch, you could have purchased 4444.4 shares of SV stock.  Those 4444 shares are now worth 577.72 SEK.  That is almost a 95% loss in value.

 

Just OUCH... 

  ltank

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9/28/12 8:51:32 PM#39
Originally posted by Talonsin

Ouch, I just did some math...

 

The average price of SV stock was 2.25 SEK for the two months before launch and before that it had peaked at over 2.75 at times of Henricks pre-launch PR releases.  The stock is now sitting at .13 SEK, this means if you invested 10,000 SEK right before launch, you could have purchased 4444.4 shares of SV stock.  Those 4444 shares are now worth 577.72 SEK.  That is almost a 95% loss in value.

 

Just OUCH... 

Uhh you need to look at those stock prices again and check your figures.

  SaintPhilip

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9/28/12 9:04:23 PM#40
Originally posted by ltank
Originally posted by Talonsin

Ouch, I just did some math...

 

The average price of SV stock was 2.25 SEK for the two months before launch and before that it had peaked at over 2.75 at times of Henricks pre-launch PR releases.  The stock is now sitting at .13 SEK, this means if you invested 10,000 SEK right before launch, you could have purchased 4444.4 shares of SV stock.  Those 4444 shares are now worth 577.72 SEK.  That is almost a 95% loss in value.

 

Just OUCH... 

Uhh you need to look at those stock prices again and check your figures.

Also factor in that shady move they did forcing shareholders to purchase more or lose their stock (I do not remember the exact thing that happened- All I know is that current holders were forced to invest more)

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