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  Butregenyo

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8/24/12 11:35:54 AM#121
Originally posted by otinanai123
~2 weeks after the masses hit 80. The date will be 20-9-2012. The endgame just isn't good enough.

Oh so you have played the endgame.. Tell us how you have beaten zhaitan, crafted the legendary weapons, completed all Explorable dungeons, conquered wvwvw ladder, fully unlocked pvp lockers, completed all puzzles in all maps, defeated all world bosses, finished personal story for each race's each different story twist, won monthly, yearly tournaments, mastered the mini-games.

Guild Wars 2 is the ultimate end-game game, end game is the whole game. They have even listened to slow-minded people like you and added skill point grind after 80 level.

  TruthXHurts

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8/24/12 11:36:00 AM#122
Originally posted by Siphaed
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by megera23
Originally posted by Misaris
My guess is 24 hours after launch, when the rose tinted glasses reveal another medieval fantasy MMO starring cartoon critters, defending villages from attacking bears the 362th time?

What does 24 hours have to do with anything? I have 100+ by now and my "rose tinted glasses" as you put it have shown no sign of coming off. Oh and most of them were spent in one single zone (lvl 1 - 15). I can't wait to go back to it again.

 

While you might be sick of the things you listed, it doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?

SW:TOR is -----> that way.   There's your "Sci-Fi" game.  Now that you've seen how horrible it is, that's why they're not made.  

 

Tabula Ras was a Sci-Fi game, a good premise of one at that.  However, it's execution was horrible, and the popularity of the game was minimal.  Though it had greater dynamic invasions than those of Rift, and a nice aiming 3rd person/1st person shooter mechanic with it.   Just if the engine was more evolved and less cloned worlds it would have somewhat worked.

 

Oh, and on the horizon there is Planet Side 2.  Beta is available to those that pre-order and/or have PS1 accounts.

 

So there you have.  An explaination of why Sci-Fi MMO's have failed in the past, as well as some up-coming ones for the future.  You can now leave Guild Wars 2 forums to those that actually ENJOY the fantasy genre, please never return.

Your historical knowledge of sci fi mmo's is pretty pathetic. You site the worst one ever made that's a plus. I agree Tabula Rasa had issues, but it was a good game. You may have overlooked the most succesful one... A little game called EvE Online. You explaination hardly even scratched the surface of why the genre has failed. You cited 2 titles... WOW you must've researched so hard to comem up with all of those examples. How about I list off a few for you now....

Starquest Online - Ultima Online meets Star Trek... Horrible Developers who basically extorted the community for patches and content. Game is still up and running, but has under 20 players total.

Shores of Hazeron - Sim City meets Wurm Meets Star Trek... great game, but a little too slow for my taste. Too much city management. It does have an amazing ship builder that lets you create fully customized ships with player crews.

Face of Mankind - Good game, but since I wasn't interested in the political game I found myself just randomly running around shooting people.

All of these games were independent and had any of them had the financial backing of a AAA developer would have blown the competition out of the vacuum.

Then of course you forgot the biggest flop in sci fi... Star Trek Online. This game should have been so much more than an arcade shooter. It could have been the great sandbox that people have wanted. They said it was impossible to have player starship crews, but Starquest Online proved them wrong.

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  Aelious

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World > Quest Progression

8/24/12 11:38:16 AM#123
LOL

No one knows about engame other than the framework mechanics.
  Lord.Bachus

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8/24/12 11:40:06 AM#124
Originally posted by ariboersma
DAMMIT "this post has already been reported" that was fast :(

Well, sadly one has to report things like this, but in general i feel sorry for people posting things like this, what in earth can have made people negative like that?

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  rygard49

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8/24/12 11:41:12 AM#125
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by megera23
Originally posted by Misaris
My guess is 24 hours after launch, when the rose tinted glasses reveal another medieval fantasy MMO starring cartoon critters, defending villages from attacking bears the 362th time?

What does 24 hours have to do with anything? I have 100+ by now and my "rose tinted glasses" as you put it have shown no sign of coming off. Oh and most of them were spent in one single zone (lvl 1 - 15). I can't wait to go back to it again.

 

While you might be sick of the things you listed, it doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?

its a good thing there are no elves or gnomes right?

Just Sylvari and Asura...

  suu141

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8/24/12 11:41:46 AM#126

On 09/29/12, the game will be left with ZERO subs.  Fail.

 

Will also fail because it "Failed to kill WoW".

 

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  lizardbones

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8/24/12 11:44:24 AM#127


Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by ariboersma DAMMIT "this post has already been reported" that was fast :(
Well, sadly one has to report things like this, but in general i feel sorry for people posting things like this, what in earth can have made people negative like that?



I took the post to mean GW2 would be declared a failure no matter what happens with the game, so how long will it take? I don't think that's a negative commentary on the game, more of a commentary on the people of this site (or possibly the internet).

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  Amana

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8/24/12 11:44:27 AM#128
This thread needs going through, so locking it until it can be cleaned up a bit. Will update.

To give feedback on moderation, contact community@mmorpg.com

  User Deleted
8/24/12 12:05:28 PM#129
Yay, not locked! Logic and reason win this time!!
  User Deleted
8/24/12 12:08:33 PM#130

Oct will be a rough patch for GW2 - MOP will be going into full swing, alot of the people that rushed through the content will be getting burned out, and there are slew of F2P titles comign out in the fall.

 

Also Lord of the Rings Online :Riders of Rohan will also be coming out in oct. If arena.net wants to avoid GW2 falling into obscurity, it will have to pull some punches in oct.

 

Honestly, there is so much competition for the fall - I don't see any game that is not world of warcraft having any sort of sustained buzz, there will simply be too much options for gamers.  

  Wickedjelly

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8/24/12 12:10:01 PM#131
Originally posted by Amana
This thread needs going through, so locking it until it can be cleaned up a bit. Will update.

 Wow...you mods are like Jekyll and Hyde around here I swear lol

Ah well, makes for good entertainment.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Horusra

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8/24/12 12:10:23 PM#132
Why would this one be locked based on the primise.  People here flood the Wow threads with doom and gloom and GW2 fanbois seem to attack every other game in their forums.  If GW2 can not take people's negativity then the game truely is doomed.
  travamars

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8/24/12 12:10:40 PM#133
It depends on what site your veiwing. Here, probably never. On other sites it has already began.
  Badaboom

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8/24/12 12:11:13 PM#134
Originally posted by kalrhael

Oct will be a rough patch for GW2 - MOP will be going into full swing, alot of the people that rushed through the content will be getting burned out, and there are slew of F2P titles comign out in the fall.

 

Also Lord of the Rings Online :Riders of Rohan will also be coming out in oct. If arena.net wants to avoid GW2 falling into obscurity, it will have to pull some punches in oct.

 

Honestly, there is so much competition for the fall - I don't see any game that is not world of warcraft having any sort of sustained buzz, there will simply be too much options for gamers.  

May the most fun game win!  My money is on GW2.

  Misaris

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8/24/12 12:11:31 PM#135
Originally posted by TruthXHurts

Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?

so true. 

/signed

  ariboersma

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8/24/12 12:13:09 PM#136
Originally posted by rygard49
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by megera23
Originally posted by Misaris
My guess is 24 hours after launch, when the rose tinted glasses reveal another medieval fantasy MMO starring cartoon critters, defending villages from attacking bears the 362th time?

What does 24 hours have to do with anything? I have 100+ by now and my "rose tinted glasses" as you put it have shown no sign of coming off. Oh and most of them were spent in one single zone (lvl 1 - 15). I can't wait to go back to it again.

 

While you might be sick of the things you listed, it doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?

its a good thing there are no elves or gnomes right?

Just Sylvari and Asura...

plant people and a small non gnome race.. are all small races now gnomes? and are all forest races now elves.. come on >.< You cant make an asura look like a gnome and its not easy to make a sylvari look like an elf.. how about actually LOOKING at the races before generalizing.

  timeraider

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8/24/12 12:16:29 PM#137
You think i care anything about the "masses" ... only the real GW2 elite will conquer Tyria anyway!
  waynejr2

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8/24/12 12:19:23 PM#138
Originally posted by BlueLantern
Originally posted by Psychow
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Still waiting on GW1 to be declared a failure...

 

Isn't "It's not an MMO" enough?

that's the cop-out so people don't have to deal with it. 

Actually, if you go to the GW1 faq the claim it isn't an mmorpg.  So anyone who thinks it is an mmorpg is wrong.  Very wrong.

  Robsolf

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8/24/12 12:20:01 PM#139

as is the case of most games here that are deemed a failure, it won't really be proclaimed a failure by the masses.

It will however be declared a failure by a small handful of people, who will each create thread after thread after thread moreless stating, "now that everyone sees that this game is a failure..."

And my bet is that that process will start... 2 months ago.

  User Deleted
8/24/12 12:20:41 PM#140
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by ariboersma
DAMMIT "this post has already been reported" that was fast :(

Well, sadly one has to report things like this, but in general i feel sorry for people posting things like this, what in earth can have made people negative like that?

 

I know! Just like this guy! 

 

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