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General Discussion  » I have one problem with gw2--No open world pvp!!!

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  jmcdermottuk

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Joined: 6/10/06
Posts: 918

8/23/12 1:15:22 PM#121

Lets put Lore aside. Lets put Themeparks and Sandboxes aside. Let's look at the reality of the situation.

 

Anet have designed a game, from the ground up, to provide a co-operative PvE experience, with no barriers to being included in that content. That's the philosophy of the PvE game, zero barrier participation in co-operative play. Resource nodes vanishing after 1 person gathering them is a barrier - gone. Having to ask for an invite to get a reward for a PvE Event - gone. Having to trudge miles across a map to get to an event - gone.

 

Having to look over your shoulder in case you get ganked during an event - gone. Not being able to use AoE attacks during play in case you hit someone else and start a big fight, preventing further progress in said event - gone.

 

The simple fact is that GW2's design philosophy for it's PvE content has no room for open PvP because it creates a barrier to participating in that content. It's at odds with the basic design of the PvE game so it's - GONE.

 

To provide for the PvP fans you're offered GW style team based contests and for the fans of the old DAoC style of 3 sided large scale warfare we have World v World v World. If this doesn't suit you and your preferrences for the type of game you like, don't play GW2.

  Drachasor

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 2693

8/23/12 1:16:28 PM#122
Originally posted by rygard49

"Explain to me in the GW2 setting why Open world PvP would be better than W v W?"

Because I would enjoy that style more. It's my opinion, and my opinion, unfortunately for you, can't be wrong in this instance. Or do I need to come up with a spreadsheet of facts and numbers to back up why I think one thing would be more fun than another for me specifically?

Well that's great and all.

 

Are you going to be complaining that WoW isn't a sandbox next?

  Ocenica

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Joined: 7/02/12
Posts: 97

8/23/12 1:17:05 PM#123
Originally posted by Creslin321

That's right ladies and gentlemen, it's time again for the repeated GW2 CRITICISM OF THE DAY!!!  The exciting game where we spin the wheel of dislike to see what oft-repeated critcism of GW2 is posted today on the forums!

Will it be no mounts?  Will it be no raiding?  Your guess is as good as mine, let's find out!

[SPINS WHEEL]

And the winner is....no open world PvP!  You heard it here first folks.  Come back again tomorrow for the next...

GW2 CRITICISM OF THE DAY!

There's no MOUNTS?!  WTF

  User Deleted
8/23/12 1:17:31 PM#124
Originally posted by bubaluba
It is really not a hate thread and i really purchased gw2. Yes i am wow,eve,swtor fan (well ok  maybe not so much swtor anymore). I think it is a big, big mistake to make a game without open world pvp. My adrenaline rush will be so low and i could have 'that pve server feeling. RVR is just another instance or huge bg and  i really would  like to be able to attack anyone like in aoc. Do you guys miss that option to?

I dont want to put words into your mouth but once you see the WvW content and the sPvP I think your notion of a game must have ganking may pass.

  FelixMajor

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Joined: 12/27/07
Posts: 563

8/23/12 1:19:02 PM#125
GW 1 did not have open world pvp and millions played it and were very entertained.  GW 2 has improved their pvp systems and made them much more interesting.  So, whelp....I have nothing to troll you with DAMNIT!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Arskaaa
"when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

8/23/12 1:19:59 PM#126
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

 

 

For me to ever play in an open PVP system that has some kind of levle or gear progression where low level players have zero chance of fighting back, there needs to be a mechnic in the game that rewards for honrable kills and punnishes for dishonorable kills. So if you are a consistent ganker picking fights with lowbies in their own zones and didn't initiate with you the high level player, then you lose honor. Do it enough and you might find yourself getting attacked by your on factions NPCs or a system where if your neg rep drops to a certain level, you become "wanted" where the game rewards players for hunting you. And now you show up as a Kill On Site target for everyone in the game.


If that isn't present in such a PVP game, I don't think I'll be leveling there.

 I agree. That was one of the few turnoffs for me about open world PvP. I never understood the fascination with some doing that. Never bothered with it myself. Actually got in arguments a few times with folks forming raid parties to go to the lowbie areas to harass players. I just found it lame as fuck. I want a challenge. Not to harass or roll over lowbies.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

8/23/12 1:30:29 PM#127
Originally posted by rygard49

Because I would enjoy that style more. It's my opinion, and my opinion, unfortunately for you, can't be wrong in this instance. Or do I need to come up with a spreadsheet of facts and numbers to back up why I think one thing would be more fun than another for me specifically?

That's fine. You're more than welcome to play any of the games which do offer open world PvP. GW2 doesn't have open world PvP for a very specific reason and implementing it would require a complete redesign of the game.

  Cruizerke

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 57

8/23/12 1:32:37 PM#128
Originally posted by Doomedfox

 

After reading Ghosts of Ascalon i think its only natural that you would expect the game-world to have Open world pvp  after all there is a war going on but instead we see Humans and Chaar holding hands being best buddies....

That did make me wonder and i questioned the reason of Ghosts of Ascalon for why would someone release a book which differs greatly from the actual game?

Ghosts of Ascalon was the first book. That book was the story of The Claw of Khan-Ur being recovered for the human queen. So she could give it back to the Charr in co-operation with some Charr  trying to broker a peace deal.

The second book, Edge of Destiny is about an unlikely group of all races working together until the end when Logan Thackery abandons the group to answer the call of the queen right before the group is to fight Kralkatorrik. Which leaves a rift in the group.

Now that we have all of the characters from the second book in game. They are still split up, Rytlock and Logan are at odds. But the part that has been left out as far as I know is has the human queen already given The Claw of Khan-Ur to the charr and a peace deal has been brokered? In theory that would be the only thing that would bring the war to a stop and cease hostilities which is what we see in game now. And the Lore reason why everyone is now working together.

There's a third book, Sea of Sorrows still to be released. So it may tell more of the over all story since Destinys Edge. It could perhaps chronicle the same sort of story that we'll have as a personal story in the game. Which ends in Orr, near the Sea of Sorrows.

  Mouls

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Joined: 2/23/08
Posts: 86

8/23/12 1:33:28 PM#129
i really don't understand that Open World PVP fetish
  Amana

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8/23/12 2:29:51 PM#130
This has been discussed to the ground in multiple threads already and there really is not much on offer to really discuss from the OP, plus the thread has gotten derailed.

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