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8/23/12 10:48:18 AM#42
Originally posted by Creslin321 what happens if we guess the criticism? I've seen so much blood on this forums, as did many... Don't we deserve a panda or something? :D "Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."  |
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8/23/12 10:49:24 AM#43
Maybe what you are really looking for is intelligent NPCs... you know, the ones that sneak around in stealth and try to kill low level players and never stop chasing them and often wait for you to ressurrect so that they can kill you again and again.
You don't need real players to do that, they could make NPCs deadly. But then, getting ganked by a NPC all day long isn't anyone's idea of fun now is it? You can't kill them, but they can kill you. Oh the rush! |
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8/23/12 10:51:21 AM#44
Originally posted by Daddydazzle The 2 week turn around on servers will prevent this from becoming a problem. If a server only fields a few small guilds and individuals for WvWvW they'll keep losing until they meet opponents in the same situation, or of the same skill. It's safe to say the servers at the top of the ladder will be actively playing in WvW and organised. The opposite will be true for servers at the bottom end of the ladder. |
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It is just amazing how people like to forget that in most of games with open world pvp you have chance to play on pve server and there nobody can gank you
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8/23/12 10:52:16 AM#46
You want to know what a big mistake would be? Adding OWPvP in a cooperative environment, it would go against the essence of this game. I enjoy OWPvP but it wouldn't work here, fortunately the coop aspect makes up for that type of gameplay and since its B2P you may also enjoy another game with OWPvP.
Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more. |
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8/23/12 10:52:45 AM#47
Originally posted by The_Korrigan if i read their forums where people are rolling on the floor and laughing all the time and they see trolls everywhere,how im harrassing anyone,you think that i talk with them?? its my sword which talks sorry,seeriously you think that i start writing something that is my main reason to kill these folks? seriously,think a bit.
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8/23/12 10:52:53 AM#48
Originally posted by Sixpax Brilliant! Vote YES if you want to see Creslin321 host the Wheel of Fortune! :-p |
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8/23/12 10:53:42 AM#49
Originally posted by bubaluba Oh wow this is like thread #294724 :) First of all WvWvW is not instanced... seriously guys at least learn what an instance is.
Secondly.... no. Gw2's take on WvWvW is imho vastly superior to the gankfest and griefingfest that a small minority of players seems to like. Remember: you are a small minority. People do not enjoy ganking and being ganked. For 1 happy ganker there are multiple unhappy ganked players. And no: attacking and ganking low level characters is hardly funny imho. I'ts just lame. Yeah i know "hey! i only attack players equal to my level because i like a good challenge and i'm a nice guy". Yeah right. We know that's a lie and maybe only 1% of the gankers are like that. GW2 wvwvw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old owpvp
tl,dr If you think ganking and griefing is very important in a mmorpg don't buy Guild Wars 2. If you like massive owpvp in a separate world then buy GW2
Originally posted by bubalubaBecause it would be stupid lorewise and mechanical wise. And because it will separate the community. Not to mention frustrate people playing a game. |
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8/23/12 10:53:47 AM#50
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8/23/12 10:54:15 AM#51
Originally posted by bubaluba you need to check your eyes.. I said it breeds idiots I didnt say that all wow players were. I enjoyed wow for 6+ years but you cannot tell me with a straight face that the communtity doesnt decline daily in that game or you wouldnt have come up with the ridiculous scenario that you did. Also I didnt break any forum rules so exactly what would you report me for?
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Originally posted by xposeidon Maybe you have right because game mechanic is not in favor of ow pvp |
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8/23/12 10:56:06 AM#53
Originally posted by otacu this exactly
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8/23/12 10:56:33 AM#54
I'm not going to argue against the fact that ANet has decided not to have World PvP for the purposes of their own gameplay mechanics, but we need to get a couple things straight here for people who whine about world PvP. First, there is NO reason why high level characters should have to be able to gank low levels in order for World PvP to work. That is a *choice* that is made by some game companies. It wouldn't be hard to put rules in the game that counter and/or flat our protect people from the kind of ganking that makes you people scream for mama, while still allowing everyone else to play world PvP if they wanted. The easiest way to do this is an opt-in PvP system with flagging rules. Other games have done this successfully. There could also be rules to limit the number of lower level characters that get killed by such a person. My point is, ganking as it was known in games like WoW only existed because the devs made it that way. World PvP isn't the problem, how it is implemented is. Second, even though I have never, ever been a ganker myself, I actually like having to look over my shoulder and or run for my life while questing. It adds a level of tension and emmersion that I really enjoy. I understand it's not for everyone, but to claim that world PvP itself serves no purpose except to allow ganking, is a narrow-minded point of view. One thing I loved about Star Wars Galaxies early on was that if you were training as a Jedi, it was very wise of you to train in secret, away from populated areas. Pulling your saber would get you flagged for PvP, and likely land you on a Bounty Hunter mission. I also loved in SWG that I could go on Active or Inactive Duty as far as world PvP went. When active, I was open season like all the other actives. When inactive, I couldn't be touched. Finally, I really liked the feature that if you were inactive, and you attacted an opposing NPC base or character, you got your butt flagged for PvP on a timer. Think it through. While Guild Wars 2 might not *need* World PvP, there is no software reason why it has to be an open gankfest in any game. |
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8/23/12 10:56:50 AM#55
Again, for the n-th time. oPvP wouldn't work in GW2 without completely re-doing the PvE. PvP servers wouldn't work. There are no factions, all attacks arc, there is plenty of AoE, you wouldn't be able to do a single event without being hit by everyone you are not grouped with constantly. WvWvW is there for that mass, openish PvP feel.
And no. I do not miss it. World PvP did not work properly in any of the recent MMOs. It only works in EVE, some relaly old ones, and a few indie/niche sandboxy games that are built with open PvP in mind. It was terrible in WoW, it was terrible in AoC and it was completley messed up in WAR in the time I played the game (first 3 months). |
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8/23/12 10:57:03 AM#56
Originally posted by korent1991 You get... FABULOUS PRIZES of course :). That prize being Creslin's golden seal of approval. This completely unique seal comes in three varieties, wheat, white, and actual seal. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/23/12 10:57:53 AM#57
Originally posted by bubaluba
Exactly and some people, the majority of people, don't like PvP. I do but I understand that a lot don't so I have no problem with a game designed for OWPvP seperate from the other part of the game. Dear developers, In my humble and inexperienced opinion if I can get through all the content you spent the last 5+ years working on within 6 months you have not done your work justice. Please give me, and everyone else, some tools to create our own content from what you have made so I can stay in your world and appreciate it longer than three weeks before I say "meh". It's a shame and I'd rather not do that to something you put so much of yourself in to. |
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8/23/12 10:58:22 AM#58
[mod edit] Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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8/23/12 10:59:01 AM#59
Originally posted by Creslin321 Look on the bright side though Creslin.
You officially won the thread. Oderint, dum metuant. |
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8/23/12 11:00:11 AM#60
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I think the game could very well survive with that kind of "problems" without introducing bigger and nastier problems (ganking and griefing). If something is not broken don't repair it!
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