Foomerang
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A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still
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Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Foomerang Exactly. There are differing opinions on literally every aspect of everything in human existence lol. So to start a thread basically saying "I don't understand these people's opinions, they must be wrong" is silly. Okay, okay, we both agree on there being different opinions on things...... we're past that. I agreed with that in my original response actually, where I was writing in red. Of course people have different opinions. My whole point is that some things aren't opinions, and in this case, what she said isn't a falsehood, it's 100% factual. There are decisions you make in GW2 that have permanence. 'strue. Anybody can verify that who's played enough personal story. You can't say that's false, without being wrong. You can say it's confusing. I'll accept that. I'll even accept 'It's confusing and misleads people who don't understand the proper context, which makes it sound like she's saying something false' Will not accept 'what she said is false', because that's simply untrue. Opinions don't get to extend out into the factuality of things. :) (edit: I am even willing to agree to 'It's confusing and misleads people who don't understand the proper context, which makes it sound like she's saying something false. In fact, it's SO confusing, that even fans misunderstand what Ree Soesbee is talking about and attempt to do some spin about permanence vs. persistence, when they're actually on the wrong track and misunderstanding her because it's SO DAMN CONFUSING and they really should release an edited Manifesto where she holds a sign saying 'I only talk about personal story' the whole time)
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Foomerang
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Foomerang
Originally posted by eggy08 Originally posted by Foomerang From Anet's GW2 Manifesto in August 2010: Mike O'Brien:
For combat, he said "never seen anything like that". I've seen a lot of combat like this. You countered with "exact combat system". Like and exact are two entirely different things. I'm just going off of what Colin said. Unless you can prove that events never repeat, then there is no permanence in them. If every event only happened once and never repeated, that would be permanent. But they do. They are designed to. Again. This isn't a bash GW2 post. I was trying to get people to understand that hype is open to interpretation.
Fine, combat system is open for opinion, I'll give you that. Look at other posts to see the permanence or watch some of Aerowyn's videos. I can't show you personally it because I didn't take screen shots or did videos showing that. And having an event only happen once would be bad mechanics, that form of permanence is not what he meant. He meant that if you fail or if you pass DEs, different scenarios will happen and it happens to NOT ONLY you but the rest of the world for everyone. This holds a lasting effect to people and makes their quests seem more involved than just doing them and that being it.
It is all open to interpretation. Saying "thats not what he/she meant" is just your opinion and interpretation. There is no right or wrong way. That was my point.
My point is that you can't really call it hype, because there are examples out there that proves his point.Take for example SWTOR, they advocated gear swapping and how you can change your gear to look however you want, but didn't implement that into end game gear till months after so really they lied because you clearly can't. That is hype.
I said my peace. Now its starting to go in circles. I'm going to bow out of this convo.
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