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  Blackhound

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Joined: 11/25/05
Posts: 48

8/18/12 8:45:43 PM#101
It's Battlefield 2142 with the drawback that you have to foot the bill every time your little toy soldier dies and needs new equipment. If I want to play Battlefield, I'll go play Battlefield.
  User Deleted
8/19/12 3:40:54 AM#102

Yeh well they can continue production of WOD or kiss my you know what.

Who in hell puts all their money in a shooter mmo no one will mess with instead of a vampire mmo everyone would have played, which is now abandonware?

  hfztt

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8/19/12 3:57:00 AM#103
Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Yeh well they can continue production of WOD or kiss my you know what.

Who in hell puts all their money in a shooter mmo no one will mess with instead of a vampire mmo everyone would have played, which is now abandonware?

Noone has ever done a f2p shooter on a console. CCP have made a fair gamble that with the rise of f2p there WAS a hole in the market.

In this age of spakly vampires I think CCP is wise to lay a bit low with WoD. While there might be huge demand for a vampire mmo, CCP most likely wont be making the vampire mmo the market is asking for. So putting WoD on fast track would probably be an equally questionable decission.

  Scot

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8/19/12 5:17:25 AM#104

" Like a clumsy yet attractive paramour, DUST 514 is both frustrating and exciting."

Yeah, I only seem to go out with accident prone catwalk models myself. :)

This one is definalty for the console crowd then. No PC's in fact no console other than PS3? Shame.

  Heinz130

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Joined: 3/13/12
Posts: 227

War...war never change

8/19/12 8:21:56 AM#105

How can the 2 games be marriage? i dint got it

Plus.what EVE shuld do is to implement ground content,better if it can be sandbox...than i left all other games and return to EVE...ill even skip archeage

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  swarmdie

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8/19/12 10:01:34 AM#106
We should have a poll "For or against having Dust514 on mmorpg.com".
  Trionicus

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Joined: 1/31/12
Posts: 488

8/19/12 10:21:49 AM#107
Originally posted by hfztt
Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Yeh well they can continue production of WOD or kiss my you know what.

Who in hell puts all their money in a shooter mmo no one will mess with instead of a vampire mmo everyone would have played, which is now abandonware?

Noone has ever done a f2p shooter on a console. CCP have made a fair gamble that with the rise of f2p there WAS a hole in the market.

In this age of spakly vampires I think CCP is wise to lay a bit low with WoD. While there might be huge demand for a vampire mmo, CCP most likely wont be making the vampire mmo the market is asking for. So putting WoD on fast track would probably be an equally questionable decission.

In any case, 514 isn't gettin any love here so from where I'm standing they'd have been better off making a twilight mmo than this.

 

Not saying that WoD is, just... Anything else would have been a better gamble.

  hfztt

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8/19/12 11:01:47 AM#108
Originally posted by Trionicus

In any case, 514 isn't gettin any love here so from where I'm standing they'd have been better off making a twilight mmo than this.

NDA is preventing me from being more specific about my love for the game...

And for the whole DUST 514 is not an MMO, it is so tightly connected to EVE that if you vote out the one you vote out the other as well.

Actually I would go as long as to say that if DUST is not an MMO, then ANY instance based game is not an MMO. Auch.

  Effin_Rabbit

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Joined: 5/26/05
Posts: 726

This Rabbit stinks!

8/19/12 12:28:44 PM#109
Awesome, they knocked off planetside 2 and made it a limited console game and called it EVE. I wonder if its lobby based, that would really make it cool.
  Yalexy

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1045

8/19/12 1:02:48 PM#110

For those who still don't get it, why Dust514 will be PS3-exclusive...

First of all Microsoft didn't want Dust514 on the Xbox. More specifically they didn't allow cross-platform communications with the EvE server. That's why Sony got the deal sealed.

Second. CCP chose the console, because it is a closed environment, less prone to cheating and giving all players the same experience due to the unified hardware.
If people still want to cheat, they'll eventually get catched and their account banned based on the hardware-ID. So if you cheat and get caught, prepare to buy a new PS3, if you wan't to continue playing.

Additionally, the PS3 offers USB-keyboard and mouse-support, if the developers choose to use it like in UT3 for example. You can just use your standard USB-periphals and play Dust514 with it instead of using a keypad, as Dust514 will use the UT3-engine with it's native USB-support.

Stop complaining that CCP actually wants to level the playingfield for a shooter by choosing the console, rather be happy that Dust514 will be F2P on a console that costs only $200 these days and can be used as a BluRay-player and HTPC in your living room.

  xsidurax22

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Posts: 21

8/19/12 1:10:09 PM#111

A few points that PC-only users seem to keep missing:

1.  PSN is free - no subscription.

2.  Many, many PS3 owners will download this game and give it a go since it is free.  They might even get interested in EVE because of it.  DC Universe has been far more successful on PS3 since it went Free to Play than it ever was as a subscription-based game.

3.  There have been several cross-platform games between Xbox <--> PC (Such as Shadowrun, FF XI online, and many others.).  They just aren't practical for developers because of strict Xbox Live certification policies on updates.

4.  The PS3 platform is much more open than the Xbox due to less stringent controls in the certification process.

5.  You CAN use a keyboard and mouse on the PS3 IF the developers support KB and mouse in the game.

6.  The PS3 still holds its own in the graphics department compared to the vast majority of PC's out there.

7.  A PS3 is cheaper than a PC with a comparable video card.

8.  MANY people actually prefer playing shooters on consoles with a controller.  Look at the success of COD or Halo as examples.

  alexmino

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Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 134

8/19/12 3:56:11 PM#112

Even though i haven't been subscribed to Eve for three months, i got a beta invite and tried it.

It's a FPS team based multiplayer game, it looks good, plays fine, i'm sure FPS players will enjoy it.  It didn't do anything for me personaly because it didn't do a lot that excited me, but it's a perfectly acceptable game.

  Trionicus

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Joined: 1/31/12
Posts: 488

8/19/12 4:49:11 PM#113
Originally posted by xsidurax22

A few points that PC-only users seem to keep missing:

1.  PSN is free - no subscription.

2.  Many, many PS3 owners will download this game and give it a go since it is free.  They might even get interested in EVE because of it.  DC Universe has been far more successful on PS3 since it went Free to Play than it ever was as a subscription-based game.

3.  There have been several cross-platform games between Xbox <--> PC (Such as Shadowrun, FF XI online, and many others.).  They just aren't practical for developers because of strict Xbox Live certification policies on updates.

4.  The PS3 platform is much more open than the Xbox due to less stringent controls in the certification process.

5.  You CAN use a keyboard and mouse on the PS3 IF the developers support KB and mouse in the game.

6.  The PS3 still holds its own in the graphics department compared to the vast majority of PC's out there.

7.  A PS3 is cheaper than a PC with a comparable video card.

8.  MANY people actually prefer playing shooters on consoles with a controller.  Look at the success of COD or Halo as examples.

Solid points.

 

Hopefully for Sony everyone has forgotten about that little security breach.

  Default101

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Posts: 55

8/19/12 7:41:09 PM#114

Gonna have to be one hell of a game to pull this off. Lots of respect for CCP, but glad it's not my money on the line.

Will console fps players go for an online game thats major selling points include a complex player-driven endgame and being linked to a niche MMORPG? Even the title "Dust 514" feels...Dusty. Succesful companies rarely go for a gamble like this. CCP has done well by not underestimating the consumer though.

  Kravis

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Joined: 3/03/07
Posts: 184

8/19/12 8:51:38 PM#115

I have not been in game in a couple of months but I can tell you this, I wouldn't pay a dime for someone to defend my planets.  Prices on the PI stuff stunk when I left and there was absolutely NOTHING new on the horizon that used planetary resources to build.  

So I say take it, heck, maybe EVE players should pay Dust players to actually take their planets and save them from that boring click-fest.

As for the PS3 exclusive, we tried really hard to convince CCP this was a mistake.  Perhaps there were financial motivations but everything they said back then was they wanted to reach a whole new demographic.  I just don't have CCP's faith this is going to work but wish them plenty of luck.

  MyBoot

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Posts: 171

8/19/12 10:36:07 PM#116
If your not one of the top 5 posters, give it up know one reads this far down

  hfztt

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Posts: 690

8/20/12 4:55:34 AM#117
Originally posted by Kravis

I have not been in game in a couple of months but I can tell you this, I wouldn't pay a dime for someone to defend my planets.  Prices on the PI stuff stunk when I left and there was absolutely NOTHING new on the horizon that used planetary resources to build. 

You are doing it wrong. Just saying. PI can be very lucrative indeed.

That said the reason to pay will more likely be one of system sov than PI.

  Scot

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Joined: 10/10/03
Posts: 5396

8/20/12 5:04:21 AM#118

Actually if you have not had time to follow a thread and missed a few pages, many posters just read the last post or two and reply to that, not that I would ever be so lazy!

  kosac

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8/20/12 10:47:55 AM#119
waiting for pc..
  Acidon

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8/20/12 11:20:17 AM#120

Gotta admit.. For all the "hate" in here, there is sure a lot of feelings for this game.. regardless of positive or negative.  Look at all the replies!

Craaazy, man.. Crazy.

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